And it's hard to believe that you're "sorry", when you continued to attack me elsewhere for just asking about status.
so this is no attack. You simply ignore facts and documentation (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=2973.0, http://www.charonmedia.org/pipermail/lmce-dev/2007-December/000153.html). You don't care to research and simply spam in the developers forum. Do you think some big map or documentation fell onto our head? We are in the code and document our progress.
So, please with sugar and cherry on top: if you want to get involved start with _anything_ now. Maybe you want to do a schema map of the pluto_main database with dia, visio or such? (please, please please?)
So you can say then: i did some of the documentation instead of simply wheening for it. I have no problem researching the upnp stuff in the codebase for you, but you have to involve, too. And asking for things that are documented is not really helpful.
What I resent is your implication that I'm doing nothing and asking for everything from people who are doing everything and asking for nothing. All I asked for was whether DLNA was supported, when UPNP seems to be (though it turns out that it's incomplete). You replied with a smiley asking vaguely to add contact point support to a Perl module that already has it, - how was I to guess that the underlying library doesn't support the Perl module? When you could have told me that directly, instead of wasting my time with (invisible) sarcasm. On sqlCVS, the page to which I linked
about the "new collaborative development method" describes the GSD wizard and sqlCVS as if they're working. The forum thread that I did read showed that it might be working, but not in conclusive terms. So I asked. What's the harm in replying "looks like it, we're not done testing", instead of slamming me?
And yes, you certainly did attack me in these posts, with insults and demands that I implement systems just because I asked, citing references indicating they exist, whether in fact they do or not. As you just did again with your sarcasm.
I don't need begging to participate. I already do participate, as I just explained, in
the wiki, in Mantis, and in
the forums - in just a month and a half (including a 2 week vacation), on a system that still isn't working well enough for me to use. What helps me, and anyone else, participate more is better answers to project navigation questions, and better docs so those questions can in fact be answered with some reasearch. What LMCE needs is some developer help. I'd say that my questions and participation are helping get that developer help, including from me. I'm going to continue - for my own reasons, not because you're sarcastically asking me "nicely". Maybe once my contributions come in a form you more easily recognize - like if I work on
your pet project - we'll get along better. I'm looking forward to that.