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General => Feature requests & roadmap => Topic started by: diamondcobra on December 13, 2007, 06:58:45 am
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I know that I will probably get slapped for asking, but can anyone tell me if there are going to be major changes to the home automation stuff in the new version? I still havent decided whether to use zwave or x10 and I just want to know if 0710 is focusing more on one or the other, or if it will be about the same as it is now.
I apologize if this has been covered already - i tried looking for an answer before posting but didnt find anything. I'm hoping to begin collecting the modules I want to use when deals come up (like the one just posted with amazon's rebates).
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it doesn't matter if you commit to one or the other...and to tell you the truth, with the way Insteon integration is going, that will probably be the module set to use soon... you can combine zwave, x10, GC100, whatever all in the same system.
-Thom
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I know that I will probably get slapped for asking, but can anyone tell me if there are going to be major changes to the home automation stuff in the new version? I still havent decided whether to use zwave or x10 and I just want to know if 0710 is focusing more on one or the other, or if it will be about the same as it is now.
I apologize if this has been covered already - i tried looking for an answer before posting but didnt find anything. I'm hoping to begin collecting the modules I want to use when deals come up (like the one just posted with amazon's rebates).
Well the Insteon work going on here looks very interesting indeed... and we are working on a lot of z-wave improvements (whether they make it into the initial 0710 release is still uncertain at the moment... but they will be in an update if not ;-) )... X10 is still hanging in there but I suspect it will gradually loose its following. So of all of the current options X10 is definitely the least 'future proof' so to speak.
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Thom & Andrew - thank you for replying - that was exactly what I wanted to know. Keep up the great work.
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I've been successful with the Insteon integration..
Right now, I've got a PLM AND an EZBridge, some devices on the PLM, some on the EZBridge...
Each device sees the other's traffic... it's frickin cool watching the logs...
AND they respond to manual commands eg. you turn a light on manually... BOTH devices see the command... and execute an event.
once in a while, they actually step on each other! hehe, but they timeout and resend, and all is well...
I'm getting about 3 commands/second throughput - that's Sending the command, receiving ack from the sending device, and then receiving ack from the child device itself.
when I use my fiire chief, it follows my hand movements pretty close...
have a few features still to work in... but even now, it's VERY useable.
HTH
Dan
<the Insteon man> lol
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hy and what about the knx ?
better support ?
Someone tried ?
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EIB is supported now, I haven't seen too much about knx...
from what I gather, knx is more tailored for automation of large buildings...
If you have more info on knx, please share.. I'd like to take a closer look at the protocols..
Dan
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Hy,
knx become famous in europe with more than 100 manufacturer as abb hagger legrand... it's the new version of the eib !
have a look there:
http://knx.org/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/knxathome
http://www.exceptionalinnovation.com/products.php
https://www.auto.tuwien.ac.at/a-lab/software.html
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Hy,
knx become famous in europe with more than 100 manufacturer as abb hagger legrand... it's the new version of the eib !
it's a new name for the EIB ;)
if you have a FT1.2 bus connector it should work fine with pluto.
regards,
Hari
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you're right !
however some features are still not implemented !
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you're right !
however some features are still not implemented !
what is missing for you?
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you're right !
however some features are still not implemented !
what is missing for you?
hi,
i have in my flat knx/eib and it works very well. the only feature i'm missing is "Read from the bus". So i never know if a light is on or off or which temprature is in the rooms.
lg
avajon
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The zwave driver (for lights anyway) is not 2 directional either.
The zwave driver IS bidirectional for the PIR...
the Insteon driver is fully bidirectional.
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hi,
i have in my flat knx/eib and it works very well. the only feature i'm missing is "Read from the bus". So i never know if a light is on or off or which temprature is in the rooms.
lg
avajon
same problem
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We have developed UPB (240V Version) for Australian and EU markets - UPB is a power Line Control system - way ahead of anything X10 .... porting this to MCE would be a winner if anyone is interested.
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Are you willing to put up some gear to do the porting?
I would be interested, tell me what interfacing modules are available, interface (usb, serial etc), chipset and is the protocol publically available?
I am in Sydney if that makes a difference to you.
A few of us are currently looking at PLC_BUS which is effectively a competitor to UPB. If the prices are good then you might have some customers straight up from this list.
regards
Darren
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mariopapas.
We have developed UPB (240V Version) for Australian and EU markets - UPB is a power Line Control system - way ahead of anything X10 .... porting this to MCE would be a winner if anyone is interested.
I´m one of the guys that is thinking of using plcbus.It seem to fix well here in sweden. Do you have any product catalog with available upb products for 220V/50hz?
Is there a protocol specification available?
Since there are not much people here that use upb, especially in 220V countries I think the easist way to get this supported in lmce is the sponsor a devel kit som someone that are willing to start the task of writing a upb driver/integration.
Probably the same ruby solution used for Insteon and plcbus can be used.
/niz23
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I had a quick search for some documentation last night, and it is a relatively straightforward serial protocol that shouldn't take too much effort to integrate into LMCE.
And as niz23 said, the work dan has done already can probably be used. In fact I believe he was refactoring it for the PLC_BUS stuff to allow for other protocols.
So its use will be more dependant upon product range, pricing and availability.
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I had a quick search for some documentation last night, and it is a relatively straightforward serial protocol that shouldn't take too much effort to integrate into LMCE.
And as niz23 said, the work dan has done already can probably be used. In fact I believe he was refactoring it for the PLC_BUS stuff to allow for other protocols.
So its use will be more dependant upon product range, pricing and availability.
Darren,
Can you post links for me?
I'm almost finished the threading engine for PLCBUS..
(sorry, got my head wrapped around code..)
If it is similar, I COULD have is out in a few days... no promises though...
I'm taking a step back from the protocols, to design a higher level interface to HA protocols that support things like bidirectional queing, multiple command queuing, etc..
It's almost done.. and working well with the PLCBUS stuff.
Dan
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Sorry Dan just saw this....
Currently away but I think that I saved the doco on my machine at home. If it is I will send it - but it was
just the result of a bit of googling. Won't be home for a few more days yet.
Regards
Darren
Someone still needs to get some hardware to test it though.....