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Does anybody knows the cause of the problem?

Installation issues / Re: Insyallation LinuxMCE 10.04 in Virtual Box
« on: November 27, 2012, 05:10:06 pm »
I always erased the whole disk.
We are talking about a virtualbox-hd with no important data are we?

Users / Re: LMCE right for me?
« on: November 22, 2012, 10:10:13 pm »
Everything you described is possible, if you follow the guided path and be patient and do not run away when you hit a wall.

Users / Re: LinuxMCE community, lets talk.
« on: November 09, 2012, 11:45:47 am »
Hi golgoj4,

Haven't been active lately in the community and didn't get all the latest updates of your and others work. But what I always missed from Linuxmce is overview for the user.
You really have to dig in for simple stuff. I think the linuxmce admin site needs a big overhaul.
e.g. how can we easily update the Core? And will the MD's be automated accordingly? And how do I check if I have the latest version through the admin?
This is just what comes to mind now. I do not feel in control of my linuxmce box, due lack of knowledge of linux, due to being an impatient user, due to being a stupid user.

Users / Re: Welcome
« on: October 29, 2012, 08:37:17 am »
Hey Hari,

You really keep us in suspense.

Users / Re: Another commercial LinuxMCE variant
« on: October 24, 2012, 09:32:26 am »
I did contact Merten and they told me not yet on the market and that the announcement was made to early...

Did you also ask what their take is on the linuxmce project?

Users / Re: Another commercial LinuxMCE variant
« on: October 20, 2012, 04:09:23 pm »
they did exclusively license the whole stack from the new copyright holders (who bought all rights from Plutohome)

Who are the new owners? And what is the name of the woman?

Users / Re: Slim Server Streamer - audio file format?
« on: October 07, 2012, 09:22:59 am »
I cannot provide help on your question, but I was wondering what type of speakers you use.

Wiki / Re: New LinuxMCE Documentation
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:36:53 pm »
Who is the admin responsible for the configuration of the wiki?
We need some extensions in order to clean the clutter.

Dear mcefan,

I see a lot of knowledge and drive from your side. That is very admirable. Probably you know more about the wiki than me.
But we have to take into account your are fairly new to us. Wouldn't it a good idea to come into the IRC channel of the wiki #linuxmce-wiki @ We can discuss some very interesting things you are posting. Please give an list of extensions/plugins you would like to see added and why.

Users / Re: Workgroup Wiki/Manual
« on: October 01, 2012, 06:51:28 pm »
We need to try to communicate our methods upfront.
Write a page that will give orientation like the one here:

I don't know if that's possible.
We need to educate people, I don't know any other way.

Also, we need to stay on top of it on a daily basis and clean up. That's a job for administrators (they know the subjects and where things should belong).

Well my cleanup consisted of deleting 5900350935 spam pages a day. So there was no real normal time left. I see now the spamming is under control. But I am more fan for fixed catagories.

Users / Re: Workgroup Wiki/Manual
« on: October 01, 2012, 05:03:26 pm »
Topology comes from the mixture of 2 words: topos (place) ans logos (word/explanation/intelligence). It's about how it came to look the way it does (like landscaping), the reason things look the way they do.

So, the question could be rephrased as: are you trying to create a logical tree of the subjects covered in all existing pages?
If bongowongo meant something else, he/she can clarify (what i explained is the meaning the sentence carries).

The link proposed above links to all special pages, that will not give you what you are looking for.

I realized that people need some help with the actual use of the wiki software, so I wrote a couple of articles. Please read the articles linked on my user page. Look at the section titled "ongoing", and read the articles on categories. You will find a link in it that will give you access to the structure you are looking for in the section "How to display the index of the existing categories".
Just so you know, there was no predefined structure, so all the categories end up forming a flat structure instead of a tree.
Categories are the equivalent of folders. They should be hierarchical.

What needs to happen now:
  • create a list of top categories
  • create some subcategories
  • recategorize pages by placing them in the subcategories

The top of the tree should not change if it's comprehensive when created.
Also, no page should be placed in a category. The proper place should be a subcategory. That way, categories will automatically create the structure you are looking for, and enable people to drill down subject matters.

If there is no clearly predefined structure, we can not expect people to place their writings in the proper place. We need a page instructing people on how to pick the right categories, rather than merely telling them to categorize. It's simply not enough.

Yes this is what I meant. But how do you educate people? Maybe make it impossible for them to make a general catagory so they are forced to make an subcatagory?

Wiki / Re: Task | Identify structure of wiki | reqruiting / assessing
« on: October 01, 2012, 02:26:13 pm »
There is a reason why shopping sites keep track of what you click on and make suggestions on what you should look at next, or what other people did following what you just did: thinking flows by association.
An article should be in as may categories at necessary.

If I just completed my install, it's just natural for me to wonder "what else" I should install before leaving the installation phase.

By installing the extension. Please note that extensions are version specific.

I added a few pages that that address some of the above needs. Please see the section title "Ongoing" on my user page:

Make the "discussion" tab of a page the standard communication medium for pages maybe?

That is the function of the "recent changes" special page:
It can be filtered, but it's still labor intensive though, not automated.

Thanks for you insight and points of view
So where do you want to start? What is the best approach?

Users / Re: first experience, first impression ... of LMCE
« on: September 29, 2012, 09:52:38 pm »
;D for once, someone not yelling at us!!! thank you!!!
And giving beer. I want to cary his baby.

Wiki / Re: New LinuxMCE Documentation
« on: September 29, 2012, 09:00:40 am »
The problem in the wiki, there is lack of uniformity.
Also old information is not updated.
It is a little bit of a mess. I tried to clean it up a little bit, but it is a very big task and needs a long breath.
If you are willing to help, please do.

Users / Re: first experience, first impression ... of LMCE
« on: September 28, 2012, 07:54:03 pm »
I just had to break away and relay my feelings and thoughts on the subject while it is all still fresh in my head. Armorgnome warned me as I began installing LMCE on my "paperweight" as he calls it, (poweredge 2650), that his first time installing was tricky and to expect the possibility of a couple of restarts and hangs to get my "thingy to do its thingy" lol. Total necessary reboots-3, my fault-1, overall experience - fairly simple, and well informed ... from an end-user's perspective I was quite impressed. So, to give credit where credit is due, huge thanks out to all of you that have been involved. Im looking forward to getting to know it alot better now from somewhere others than over my gnome's shoulder so I can find my own place to jump in and help as well ... lol. Nothing added yet, but soon ... very soon.

send beer!

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