Whats the word on the 0710 release anyway? That may just be the fix I need. (just like a junkie!!)
I have searched and its seems its a little hush hush but tentatively planned by the end of November, if someone could post the status that would be sweet.
The status is that nobody knows exactly.
It will be released when it's released and untill then it's little use to start a new thread about it every few days... ::)
Ok I guess I just have to wait for the big day like the rest of us. Only I didn't see many posts pertaining to the release date or I wouldn't have asked.
The only hint is on the main page, here (http://linuxmce.org/news.php?id=12#comments), that's all the info for now.
Does anyone know if version 710 will support the nVidia 7xxx chipset. Asking because I need to base my motherboard decision (whether or not to go with Abit AN-M2 HD board) on this.
Thanks in advance.
Quote from: Zaerc on November 26, 2007, 04:49:49 PM
The status is that nobody knows exactly.
It will be released when it's released and untill then it's little use to start a new thread about it every few days... ::)
lOl! I've seen that quote before :-D
Just teasing. Im sure It will be soon :-)
Quote from: 3DRealmsThe release date of DukeNukem Forever is "When it's done". Anything else, and we mean anything else is someone's speculation. There is no date. We don't know any date. If you have a friend who claims they have "inside info", or there's some game news site, or some computer store at the mall who claims they know - they do not. They are making it up. There is no date. Period.
Quote from: CrafyZA on November 29, 2007, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: Zaerc on November 26, 2007, 04:49:49 PM
The status is that nobody knows exactly.
It will be released when it's released and untill then it's little use to start a new thread about it every few days... ::)
lOl! I've seen that quote before :-D
Just teasing. Im sure It will be soon :-)
Quote from: 3DRealmsThe release date of DukeNukem Forever is "When it's done". Anything else, and we mean anything else is someone's speculation. There is no date. We don't know any date. If you have a friend who claims they have "inside info", or there's some game news site, or some computer store at the mall who claims they know - they do not. They are making it up. There is no date. Period.
aaah so true!
But it does look to be getting close now... and I think everyone (sorry most of you ;-) ) will be pleased with 0710 when it arrives :-)
Shh....it's the end of the month :). anxiously awaiting.
Hello everyone...
I really think that LInuxMCE's team is doing a great job but and I know it must be boring to receive a lot of questions about the release date BUT
it would have been nice to receive a little more information... We are now the 1st of december while version 7.10 has been announced for end of november.
No problem with this but please, at least you might tell us that it won't be finish in time (via the news...) or if you can predict another date.
I'm saying this because I'm checking for a new version 3 times a day for 10 days now... ;)
Thank you for this great tool anyway.
Quote from: vpxavier on December 01, 2007, 08:45:51 AM
Hello everyone...
I really think that LInuxMCE's team is doing a great job but and I know it must be boring to receive a lot of questions about the release date BUT
it would have been nice to receive a little more information... We are now the 1st of december while version 7.10 has been announced for end of november.
No problem with this but please, at least you might tell us that it won't be finish in time (via the news...) or if you can predict another date.
I'm saying this because I'm checking for a new version 3 times a day for 10 days now... ;)
Thank you for this great tool anyway.
Hi,
Well as ever with software... its running a little late ;-)
But 0710 testing is going well with the latest non-public Beta builds looking very good. VDR is being integrated and that work is a little behind schedule but is progressing (we're providing the integration of this) and then there are numerous fixes/changes/improvements that are being done many of which you can monitor here http://mantis.linuxmce.org/my_view_page.php
Everyone involved is doing their best to get the release out... but we want to make it as complete/stable & bug free as we can ;-)
Quote from: super on November 29, 2007, 07:35:32 AM
Does anyone know if version 710 will support the nVidia 7xxx chipset. Asking because I need to base my motherboard decision (whether or not to go with Abit AN-M2 HD board) on this.
Thanks in advance.
Yes it will ;-)
Thank you for these information...
Can we expect next release in a couple of days? weeks?
Thank you very much... I totally agree, it's better to make a stable version even if you're late on schedule.
Quote from: vpxavier on December 01, 2007, 11:28:22 AM
Thank you for these information...
Can we expect next release in a couple of days? weeks?
Thank you very much... I totally agree, it's better to make a stable version even if you're late on schedule.
Hmmm... well it won't be released in a few days for sure. I would say a few weeks is more likely.
Thank you for the info... ;)
Quote from: totallymaxed on December 01, 2007, 11:35:31 AM
Hmmm... well it won't be released in a few days for sure. I would say a few weeks is more likely.
Nothing like a nice Christmas present ;D
Damn, no birthday present tomorrow then ;)
I look forward to 710,
64 bit support should be good, i can finaly use my processor properly
Im hoping that file types like MKV etc are added to updatemedia as xine can handle them jusr fine
A few bugs on my machine im hoping will be fixed (even though i have almost the exact machine used in the video)
and maybe ill work up the courage to blow away my install and start again, need an excuse to install that new hdd..
Concerning .mkv files detection... I have a few of these and would like to be able to play them also, about half of my 450 movies on my nas are .mp4 which are not detected... I was told in the forum to rename them to .mpeg but haven't done it yet....... will 7.10 detect .mp4 files without having to rename them to .mpeg?? I would like to not rename them if possible for a couple of reasons... also, is it possible that the integration of mplayer into 7.10 that this will help with files (other than HD) that xine will not play, to play within mplayer automatically?? of my collection of movies.. xine will not play a lot of them.. however mplayer will play every single one.... in my opinion this is a MAJOR problem with linuxmce... I can't believe that I'm the only person having this problem.... unless I'm one of the few that have as many movies that are encoded differently.. I probably have just about every type of .avi, .mp4 and .mkv out there.... encoded with divx, xvid, h.264, x.264.. you name it.... but mplayer will play ALL of them.. xine only plays some of them... the win32codecs package is installed of course... but I had the same problem with ubuntu and xine before I tried linuxmce... I had both xine and mplayer installed on my ubuntu machine and only mplayer would play all my files.. I keep reading posts with people bashing mplayer, but hell, at least it plays everything.. and quite well for me....
Quote from: rrambo on December 03, 2007, 04:58:46 PM
Concerning .mkv files detection... I have a few of these and would like to be able to play them also, about half of my 450 movies on my nas are .mp4 which are not detected... I was told in the forum to rename them to .mpeg but haven't done it yet....... will 7.10 detect .mp4 files without having to rename them to .mpeg?? I would like to not rename them if possible for a couple of reasons... also, is it possible that the integration of mplayer into 7.10 that this will help with files (other than HD) that xine will not play, to play within mplayer automatically?? of my collection of movies.. xine will not play a lot of them.. however mplayer will play every single one.... in my opinion this is a MAJOR problem with linuxmce... I can't believe that I'm the only person having this problem.... unless I'm one of the few that have as many movies that are encoded differently.. I probably have just about every type of .avi, .mp4 and .mkv out there.... encoded with divx, xvid, h.264, x.264.. you name it.... but mplayer will play ALL of them.. xine only plays some of them... the win32codecs package is installed of course... but I had the same problem with ubuntu and xine before I tried linuxmce... I had both xine and mplayer installed on my ubuntu machine and only mplayer would play all my files.. I keep reading posts with people bashing mplayer, but hell, at least it plays everything.. and quite well for me....
Rambo:
Yea, I've got the same issue...many many many mkv and avi files with every codec under the sun....I haven't really tried them with mplayer, so I'm glad to hear you can play all the ones you have. I've been testing them with xine by renaming them to .avi, and some play, but many do not...I've definately noticed that 1080p source files do not play with xine for me....
So here we are anxiously (or should I say patiently!, developers, please do not rush it out the door with bugs!) awaiting 0710...
Mods: maybe you should make this thread a sticky so it stays at the top and nobody else posts a "when does 0710 come out" posting...or put a sticky that only the developers can post to with the current status....because I think I speak for many of us when I say that I don't want them to rush---we want a good solid quality product so that new-adopters do not have any issues--but we also want to install it ASAP when it's released!
This is a great product! I can't wait to see what's coming!
-David
On my Ubuntu machine (7.10) I had all of the ubuntu and kubuntu restricted extras installed as well as the medibuntu sources... some media files will not play at all in xine.. some would play with funky video/audio problems like xine was on an acid trip... when played with mplayer they all play fine... this does not appear to be hardware related as I have tried it on several machines... intel, via and amd processors and nvidia, ati, and via video cards... everything points to xine being the problem... i can also play all of my video files on my mac with quicktime and vlc.. so it's not like the video files are something special... oh.. they all play fine with vlc for linux too...
Can't wait to get my hands on 0710 - dying to get it setup with VDR - have also managed to get hold of a tatung x2000 webpad which i hope to use as a remote along with my wm5 smartphone if it's supported.
I was wondering why we don't have a kind of Alpha-Beta-RC-Formal Release system in place. this will leverage mass support for testing/fixes and more predictable release cycle.
thanks
peng
LinuxMCE is in the process of merging their changes back from the Pluto code-base, once this is in place, we can start thinking of mapping out release processes. Things are still very early, please read around.
-Thom
Quote from: atreidae on December 03, 2007, 02:00:27 PM
I look forward to 710,
64 bit support should be good, i can finaly use my processor properly
Im hoping that file types like MKV etc are added to updatemedia as xine can handle them jusr fine
A few bugs on my machine im hoping will be fixed (even though i have almost the exact machine used in the video)
and maybe ill work up the courage to blow away my install and start again, need an excuse to install that new hdd..
...0710 is getting closer... but is still at least 7 days away. But a 64bit version is definitely going to be available. Adding support for new file types will be possible in 0710 too I've been testing adding those now that the DB Schema has been updated to allow for more data in the Extensions field of the MediaType table. You have to use some MySQL queries but its not that difficult;
mysql -u root -D pluto_main -N -e "UPDATE MediaType SET Extensions = 'mov,avi,mpeg,mpg,wmv,ts,tp,dvd,vdr,ogm,mkv' WHERE Extensions = 'mov,avi,mpeg,mpg,wmv,ts,tp,dvd,vdr,ogm'"
Login to the console under 0710 and use the line above to add the MKV file type to your system... and its done!
***Don't try the above under 0704 as you could damage your DB***
Andrew
am sooo looking forward to 0710, great to hear it could be as little as 7 days away, would love it to be out before xmas so I can get it all set up and configured. Am hoping VDR sorts out the problems i have been having with TV on 0704. good work to all those beavering behind the scenes to get this out :)
Quote from: totallymaxed on December 05, 2007, 12:28:43 PM
...0710 is getting closer... but is still at least 7 days away.
Andrew
Quote from: jayzee on December 05, 2007, 01:36:50 PM
am sooo looking forward to 0710, great to hear it could be as little as 7 days away,
heheheheheheehe the danger of 'leaking' a release date. And intentionally misunderstanding a post ;D
Ah will we be able to add support for mp4 the same way in 0710?
will .iso be supported in the same way as .dvd in 0710?
Will LMCE still rip to .dvd or .iso?
Is there a way to set .dvd=.iso in the code?
Quote from: Veidit on December 05, 2007, 02:58:41 PM
Ah will we be able to add support for mp4 the same way in 0710?
Yes... tested that yesterday :-)
Quote from: Hagen on December 05, 2007, 03:13:58 PM
will .iso be supported in the same way as .dvd in 0710?
Will LMCE still rip to .dvd or .iso?
Is there a way to set .dvd=.iso in the code?
Ok... support for existing .iso files has been added (ie ones you rip outside lmce) having just discussed it with one of the devs
Making lmce rip files as .iso's is something that is more complex. But might be for the future
/me doesn't think it's fair that only a handful of people get to see the code before the rest of us...but....
i'm hoping that this sort of exclusive trend doesn't continue.
-Thom
Quote from: totallymaxed on December 05, 2007, 03:31:58 PM
support for existing .iso files has been added (ie ones you rip outside lmce) having just discussed it with one of the devs
Good enough for me 8)
Thanks a lot
Will the via unichrome drivers be available / working in 0710 :)
Quote from: tkmedia on December 05, 2007, 08:36:35 PM
Will the via unichrome drivers be available / working in 0710 :)
No they wont as far as i know... but then i don't know anyone who has them working for UI2 anyway...
Hi,
Is there a way instread of hardlink with " ln to /somevideofile/play.dvd to /somevideofile/play.iso to play iso files because i have some xbox's type 1 that plays every extension exept .dvd so i have to ln them now to iso but my diskspace is getting very low this way.
Thnx in advance,
Dave
Holland
Quote from: deffcon on December 05, 2007, 11:45:50 PM
Is there a way instread of hardlink with " ln to /somevideofile/play.dvd to /somevideofile/play.iso to play iso files because i have some xbox's type 1 that plays every extension exept .dvd so i have to ln them now to iso but my diskspace is getting very low this way.
Make sure you are using the '-s' flag when you do the ln. It shouldn't be using hardly any extra disk space for the link then.
uhm...
hard links take up less space than soft links, they use the same inodes!
a symbolic link takes up a teeny bit of space, because it's an indirect pointer.
-Thom
Is there going to be a ChangeLog with the 0710 release, indicating some of these features like the SQL technique for adding filetypes by extension (and which types are supported that way), and the other new features we've heard hinted, as well as the usual bugfix itemization?
Quote from: deffcon on December 05, 2007, 11:45:50 PM
Hi,
Is there a way instread of hardlink with " ln to /somevideofile/play.dvd to /somevideofile/play.iso to play iso files because i have some xbox's type 1 that plays every extension exept .dvd so i have to ln them now to iso but my diskspace is getting very low this way.
Thnx in advance,
Dave
Holland
See my post earlier in this thread... under lmce-0710 .iso will be a supported file type for playback so you will not need to make symbolic links.
oppss, did I misundersand what Andrew was saying about the release date? anyway, take your time guys, I understand its ready when its ready, I am just excited by the fact it can;t be too far away now, fingers crossed :)
Quote from: Hagen on December 05, 2007, 02:24:26 PM
Quote from: totallymaxed on December 05, 2007, 12:28:43 PM
...0710 is getting closer... but is still at least 7 days away.
Quote from: jayzee on December 05, 2007, 01:36:50 PM
am sooo looking forward to 0710, great to hear it could be as little as 7 days away,
heheheheheheehe the danger of 'leaking' a release date. And intentionally misunderstanding a post ;D
Quote from: jayzee on December 06, 2007, 06:38:54 PM
oppss, did I misundersand what Andrew was saying about the release date? anyway, take your time guys, I understand its ready when its ready, I am just excited by the fact it can;t be too far away now, fingers crossed :)
Actually, what I think Hagen was talking about was your converting totallymaxed's "at least 7 days" into "as little as 7 days". Which is correct to the letter of totallymaxed's statement, but is rather naively optimistic about the spirit.
Though I do like the idea that we're talking about "close to a week", rather than "close to a month", though there's no way (for anyone) to tell the difference until it's over. Especially since a 2-week duration puts the release sometime around "the weekend right before Christmas", which probably equals "mid January".
Indeed, sorry, it was not my intention to actually point the finger, just merely remembering the early days of WWIIonline when CRS early learned to utter the word 'soon'TM instead of giving any hints whatsoever about an actual release date ;D because the very next post (not yours) would then have it be less than seven days, and then it suddenly became 'tomorrow' and all rejoiced... eh... not.
Sorry
three words:
DUKE NUKEM FOREVER.
'nuff said.
-Thom
yeah just like CrafyZA originally said. duke nukem forever.
'nuffer saider.
damn, someone beat me to it! :-P
-Thom
dont get any ideas of your mame stuff going the ways of the duke either....its got wife appeal/approval :P
Serious WAF on that one, I must agree. she loved the idea (now that's a first)
Quote from: rrambo on December 03, 2007, 10:42:08 PM
On my Ubuntu machine (7.10) I had all of the ubuntu and kubuntu restricted extras installed as well as the medibuntu sources... some media files will not play at all in xine.. some would play with funky video/audio problems like xine was on an acid trip... when played with mplayer they all play fine... this does not appear to be hardware related as I have tried it on several machines... intel, via and amd processors and nvidia, ati, and via video cards... everything points to xine being the problem... i can also play all of my video files on my mac with quicktime and vlc.. so it's not like the video files are something special... oh.. they all play fine with vlc for linux too...
I have the same problem too.. if it doesn't work in xine 9/10 it plays with totem, and 7/10 with mplayer and that's on x86_64,x86, and ppc builds.
And yippee for a few more days before 0710. I've been backing up all my mythtv recordings since Thanksgiving.. hopefully I'll be able to import them.
Anyone know if 0710 will be released in the same forms as 0704? (as in a Quick Install DVD and a 2-CD Installer) Or will we see come other kind of installer?
a word to the mods,
Im quite happy to mirror the files again, mind you this time can we have files smaller that 1gb please? my apache install wont take it..
you know my address.. (if not PM me)
Hi all,
http://onedollarlinux.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_37&products_id=143&osCsid=1d12808e93793a6c6b4b279a2b3d2dc2
Does this mean really 0710 released on 31th of januari ??
Dave
thats just saying they will have pressed media to sell. they will need some time to get that all made. it should still be released earlier than that (im pretty sure).
Ok,
clear
Thnx
Quote from: deffcon on December 11, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
Hi all,
http://onedollarlinux.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_37&products_id=143&osCsid=1d12808e93793a6c6b4b279a2b3d2dc2
Does this mean really 0710 released on 31th of januari ??
Dave
The 30th of January is just a date they put in since a release date is not set. Whenever 0710 is released, the preorders will be shipped.
Quote from: deffcon on December 11, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
Hi all,
http://onedollarlinux.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_37&products_id=143&osCsid=1d12808e93793a6c6b4b279a2b3d2dc2
Does this mean really 0710 released on 31th of januari ??
Dave
Everyone is working as hard as possible to get 0710 out the door before the 25th ;-)
If its humanly possible thats what will happen...
You guys rock, I'll be happy whenever you can get this thing out.
Merry Christmas.
is that 25th of Jan or December?
either way im :)
we are building it in svn at the moment testing the build scripts and trying to get the last bits of the release mechanics worked out. real soon now.
-Thom
Quote from: tschak909 on December 18, 2007, 10:56:28 PM
we are building it in svn at the moment testing the build scripts and trying to get the last bits of the release mechanics worked out. real soon now.
-Thom
Hi, I'm new to Linux MCE and I'm really excited to try it out. Since it seems like you guys are nearing the 0710 release I am going to wait before installing Linux MCE. I really want 0710 since the 7.10 ubuntu release added support for the NIC of a computer I want to netboot.
I am going to install kubuntu 7.10 while I wait for 0710 to come out. Should I be ok installing Linux MCE on top of that?
If it's anything like the last version you should be able to use the CDs to install over the top of it, as the DVD Installer formatted and partitioned the HDD and configured itself.
Oh, so the DVD installer will blow my install away?
I've got the 0704 two disc CD release and I tried to install them (I assumed they'd be bootable and install everything) but they weren't bootable. Were they just supposed to install on top of kubuntu and will something like that be available for 0710?
Edit: Thanks for answering my questions even though (as I've only just noticed) they're answered on the main page when you click the gigantic Download Instructions link.
Quote from: dren on December 19, 2007, 05:43:07 AM
Oh, so the DVD installer will blow my install away?
I've got the 0704 two disc CD release and I tried to install them (I assumed they'd be bootable and install everything) but they weren't bootable. Were they just supposed to install on top of kubuntu and will something like that be available for 0710?
Yes that's what the last DVD release did, I assume the next release is the same as I haven't heard/read otherwise..
And yes the two disc release from 0704 was designed to be installed on top of a standard kubuntu install. As far as a CD Release for the new version, we'll just have to wait and see I guess ;) I can't imagine they'd stray from the trend.
Perhaps I'm missing something but arn't the updates updating packages and scripts and bring us up to date so we don't need to re-install ???
The last time I had to wipe out a Linux system was due to a major GCC change which doesn't happen that often.
Or is it that linuxmce is so complex and alpha (no insult intended) that update scripts are not available.
As I have splurged (is that a word) on fiire, I can't just wipe it out as I would lose my pro II drivers.
I'll ask fiire and see what they say as well.
Quote from: marrandy on December 19, 2007, 07:46:32 PM
Perhaps I'm missing something but arn't the updates updating packages and scripts and bring us up to date so we don't need to re-install ???
The last time I had to wipe out a Linux system was due to a major GCC change which doesn't happen that often.
Or is it that linuxmce is so complex and alpha (no insult intended) that update scripts are not available.
As I have splurged (is that a word) on fiire, I can't just wipe it out as I would lose my pro II drivers.
I'll ask fiire and see what they say as well.
Assuming they use the standard Ubuntu upgrade process for linux, you do not need to wipe out the machine. GCC with Gentoo one of the reasons I dumped it a while ago.
As mentioned by DanielK on the dev maillist (http://www.charonmedia.org/pipermail/lmce-dev/2007-December/000205.html), and as reported by hari (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3528.msg18943#msg18943), the LMCE v0710b2 is now available for download (http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent):
Quote from: hari on December 22, 2007, 05:28:28 PM
http://vt100.at/kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso.torrent
install went fine, testing is still pending. The faint hearted may want to try it. Don't blame me if it burns your kitchen sink.
best regards and happy christmas,
Hari
ps: there will be no final release till after christmas
Please test and report in Mantis any relevant details on any existing issues (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view_all_bug_page.php). Or if,
after searching those existing issues, you know you have identified a new issue, please report a new issue (http://mantis.linuxmce.org/login_select_proj_page.php?ref=bug_report_page.php).
If we test and report, then the actual release will be much more stable much quicker.
People are discussing the release in a Users forum topic "0710 beta 2 available" (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3546.0).
Thanks, Santa!
Howdy All:
Not really sure where to post this. I am downloading the beta 3 right now and have downloaded the beta 2 previously. I have been downloading the torrent for a whole day and it looks like it will be another whole day before I have a completed ISO. I am wondering why you all aren't using zsynch for iso distribution. Zsync can be easily used to upgrade any Ubuntu derivative iso from the last iso to the new one. It's available in the Ubuntu repositories. Zsync compares the last release iso to the new one and downloads only the new bits and creates a verifiable iso that is identical to the original new iso in minutes. All you have to do is use the command zsyncmake in the directory of the new iso and it will in moments create a file with the same name and the iso.zsync extension. The zsynch file is then located on the server in the same folder as the new iso. The zsync file is only a few MB's. The end user downloads the zsynch file and places it in a folder with the old iso. Then from that directory commands zsynch "old iso" "zsync file" "address/new iso"
zsync -i linuxmcebeta2.iso linuxmcebeta3.iso.zsync -u http://address/linuxmcebeta3.iso
In minutes zsync figures the differences between the beta 2 and beta 3 iso's and downloads just the new bits, downloads them and recreates an exact copy of the new iso. The md5sums will be identical. zsync checks them at the beginning, all through the process on the fly and then again at the end of the process and produces a report. My main home distro is Klikit which is still in beta. We are using zsync for upgrading iso's from old to new with great success and less coasters overall. The downloads are a fraction of what they would be otherwise. Saving the end user many hours and the servers much bandwidth. Just an idea. It would be especially nice for those of us who a testing the beta's sequentially. Just a thought, thanks for your kind attention. Later... cos