New app for Iphone came out... Air Mouse

[krys]

lemme know how it goes, I have been too lazy to try it myself.
However if you think that is cool, this will blow your mind
http://www.orb.com/en/orblive

they are promising a linux version soon, if so I would be set.

Oh, and as far as the orbiter for iphone goes, the problem is you would need to develop something in the iphone SDK and get apple to approve it so people dont have to hack their phone to use it. The main problem is the SDK only works on a MAC OS and most people dont have a MAC just laying around to use. There are ways to run leopard and a few others on a windows machine but it involves breaking the law or paying a few hundred bucks to purchase the OS from apple.
Other than that I would assume the rest would be feasible.

[seth]

 
Wow, that is really cool. I am currently working on getting a job set up to rip out the commercials, and export the show to a iphone compatible format, but I have been busy at work lately, hopefully by this weekend I will have that done. But that orblive looks very cool indeed.

Thanks for the link.

Regards,

Seth

[Zaerc]

lemme know how it goes, I have been too lazy to try it myself.
However if you think that is cool, this will blow your mind
http://www.orb.com/en/orblive

they are promising a linux version soon, if so I would be set.

Oh, and as far as the orbiter for iphone goes, the problem is you would need to develop something in the iphone SDK and get apple to approve it so people dont have to hack their phone to use it. The main problem is the SDK only works on a MAC OS and most people dont have a MAC just laying around to use. There are ways to run leopard and a few others on a windows machine but it involves breaking the law or paying a few hundred bucks to purchase the OS from apple.
Other than that I would assume the rest would be feasible.

And people wonder why we prefer the freedom that open systems give us...

[skatingn330]

There's a open source sdk  available from cydia, it's called big boss's toolchain I believe. But that'd let u develop in Linux. Then just host the app in cydia, then we won't have to deal with apple at all for approveal. I would lovee to see an orbitor app for the iPhone. Most poeple that use lmce that have an iPhone probably already have jailbroken iPhones anyways.

[hari]

I have a developer license to publish on the AppStore.

Now we just need some orbiter code to publish :-) But i lack a bit motivation on this one as my screensize for MacOSX is limited to 1024x600..

best regards,
Hari

[krys]

well, I can confirm that the Orb app for the iphone does freakin rock. I got the free app that limits how many files you can view from your phone, but most of the functions work. I watched some movies, listened to some songs etc. Once the Linux version is available I will be able to watch live TV on my phone!

[elvisimprsntr]

Although it's not open source, ORB for the iPhone is pretty cool.  I've even been streaming music from my desktop to my iPhone while driving around in my car.  Get occasional streaming drops when switching cell towers.  You can even open popular document files.  I wish OO.org would port their document viewers to the iPhone.  With an iPhone clipped into a Griffin RoadTrip, I don't know why anyone  would want or need sat radio, a seperate GPS, or a computer in the dash or trunk of their car, especially if it's powered by MS.  I don't want MS powering my desktop, why then would I want them to be powering my car.  I hope to god the auto manufacturers (Ford and MS Sync) have isolated Windows from the saftey critical functions in the car.  I would hate to think what would happen if a clever virus figured out how to re-boot a car while someone is driving down the highway. 

Back on thread....  remotepad for the iPhone and the server app for your MacOS, Linux, Windows works excellent.  The only one I have come across that support all three OS.    And it's open source.    http://www.tenjin.org/RemotePad/       Maybe it can be rolled into LMCE 810 distribution when it is released.    If someone figures out how to get it to start automatically upon boot up, please post your config.

Thanks,

Elvis

[los93sol]

Another option to get the Iphone running as a proper orbiter is to utilize the Java runtime that will run on the Iphone.  It isn't natively supported, but runs on jailbroken phones and installation is a breeze.  I attempted to compile JavaMO on it, but got some compiler errors.  Maybe someone could get it working relatively quickly with the right knowledge since the code is already pretty much working for JavaMO.  Anybody interested in giving this a quick try and reporting their results?

[krys]

I am too scared to jailbreak the iphone I use, but Ill bet we can get some ipod touch's real cheap or some used iphones if we can find a solution that works.

[hari]

you need j2me for the javamo.

[los93sol]

I looked at some software from Javaground in their Xpress Suite to automate converting the J2ME source to the iPhone's objective C, but received some error messages I'm not quite sure how to correct.  Javaground has a free trial that can be used for testing if someone more experienced wants to take a look to see if it can be done easily.  With only 8 compiler errors I imagine someone with the right knowledge could resolve them in a few minutes and have the iPhone running as an orbiter.

[jgdev]

Hey, I'm a developer from Javaground and I happened to see your comment.  There shouldn't be any conversion issues with using standard J2ME code (MIDP 2/CLDC 1.1) on the iPhone.  If you're having issues please report them to the email used to send your trial license information.

[rvetruba]

I'm a total noob and a designer, not a programmer... so pardon if i'm way off base

http://www.phonegap.com/

[los93sol]

Okay, I decided to revisit the Javaground route...below are the few compiler errors...I think once these are resolved then the orbiter will be running natively on the Iphone as an app...Hari, Thom, any devs with some quick guidance?

Failed to COMPILE java sources.

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1. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\TestMIDlet.java (at line 15)
   canvas = new BDCommand(this);
                ^^^^^^^^^
BDCommand cannot be resolved to a type
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2. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 35)
   public class BDCommand extends SerializeClass {
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SerializeClass cannot be resolved to a type
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3. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 105)
   startReading();
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^
The method startReading() is undefined for the type BDCommand
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4. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 106)
   response = readString();
              ^^^^^^^^^^
The method readString() is undefined for the type BDCommand
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5. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 122)
   return m_pBout.toByteArray();
          ^^^^^^^
m_pBout cannot be resolved
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6. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 131)
   return (long)currentSize();
                ^^^^^^^^^^^
The method currentSize() is undefined for the type BDCommand
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7. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 138)
   startWriting();
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^
The method startWriting() is undefined for the type BDCommand
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8. ERROR in E:\DOCUME~1\Los93soL\LOCALS~1\Temp\jg\Test\Build\src\BDCommand.java (at line 139)
   writeString("OKAY");
   ^^^^^^^^^^^
The method writeString(String) is undefined for the type BDCommand
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8 problems (8 errors)

[chrisbirkinshaw]

I think the best way to support the iphone is to create an iphone webapp rather than a native app. Most of the data is loaded in at first load, so it essentially runs client-side. You then make updates using AJAX.

There are a few frameworks around aimed at doing this easily. I'll try and knock something up as a demo.

Chris