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Started by table9, September 05, 2007, 06:57:41 AM

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table9

Any news on apple tv support?  Currently you can get linux running on the box. http://wiki.awkwardtv.org/wiki/Linux_on_Apple_TV
It seems like this would be a perfect solution.  The only other step I can see would be the 704 install.  Any thoughts?

1audio

I think this is a good idea. I did some searching and found this: http://www.mythic-beasts.com/resources/appletv/ which suggests it could be brought up pretty easily. However you will still have some Video constraints and it won't be an apple TV, just an inexpensive box for a media director. I would pursue it further but I don't have an apple TV or know how to make a seperate PXE boot image for this. If someone did it would be very interesting to try.

table9

1audio,
Thanks for the input and the link.  My idea is to use it as an alternative to the fiire station.  The price point is the only reason I am looking elsewhere.  For $300 you get a very SFF box with a 40 GB drive Intel 1 GB Intel mobile proc and 512 in Ram.  I have a friend who can get me one for under the list price and was going to replace the HD (in case I can't get it working I want to sell it) install linux and then 704 and use it as a director.  I think this could make it more affordable and create a high quality solution at a low price point that could seriously add to the project.  I can't see any issues with running the director locally as opposed to booting it.

totallymaxed

Quote from: table9 on September 06, 2007, 07:01:14 AM
1audio,
Thanks for the input and the link.  My idea is to use it as an alternative to the fiire station.  The price point is the only reason I am looking elsewhere.  For $300 you get a very SFF box with a 40 GB drive Intel 1 GB Intel mobile proc and 512 in Ram.  I have a friend who can get me one for under the list price and was going to replace the HD (in case I can't get it working I want to sell it) install linux and then 704 and use it as a director.  I think this could make it more affordable and create a high quality solution at a low price point that could seriously add to the project.  I can't see any issues with running the director locally as opposed to booting it.

I can see a problem with the on-board IR receiver (not sure what standard it supports) also the remote has a rather minimalistic design/layout... so either the lmce UI would have to change or a non-Apple remote would have to be used. Then of course there is the issue of having drivers for the video hardware to support TV out and acceleration etc.

Its a nice box... though ;-)
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Quote from: totallymaxed on September 06, 2007, 10:21:09 AM
I can see a problem with the on-board IR receiver (not sure what standard it supports) also the remote has a rather minimalistic design/layout... so either the lmce UI would have to change or a non-Apple remote would have to be used. Then of course there is the issue of having drivers for the video hardware to support TV out and acceleration etc.

Its a nice box... though ;-)

But it should be able to operate on the three button system??...... the apple remote should have enough buttons... i also think this would be great as a media director, all we need is someone the capabilities to make it work :)

table9

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Thanks guys I did some more research and it is doable.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_MythFrontend_on_an_AppleTV
This is the install for OSX.  So we would need the developers to port the 704 install potentially.
So as soon as I can get one and void the warranty I will let you know.  Like I said earlier I am waiting on a friend who can get one cheaper than list....  So it may be a few weeks.  I will try the OSX install.  This would work out the best because you are not installing linux to get it going.  I will try OSX and then try Linux.

table9

Ok quick question if anyone has the answer.  It looks as though you can get Myth tv running fairly easily on the apple tv using OSX.  How well does a Myth front end interact with MCE?  I know I will at least lose certain features.

steve199

Would it be possible just to remove the HDD (or just format it and use it for general storage) and have it network boot?

gnomeza

Quote from: steve199 on September 08, 2007, 01:56:46 AMWould it be possible just to remove the HDD (or just format it and use it for general storage) and have it network boot?
Short answer: yes, kinda.

Removing the HDD is about the only way to install Linux on AppleTV.
If you happen to already have a copy of the (proprietary) Apple binary bootloader that is present on the AppleTV HDD, you can make a bootable USB drive and do it without voiding the warranty.

The onboard IR receiver works well enough (the only remote I can get working is the Apple remote). Analog and optical audio work. HDMI, Component and (yes) Composite video output and XvMC work with proprietary nVidia drivers.

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