Which TV Card?

[acematti]

Hi Im loving using LinuxMCE its great.

I would like to know now which TV card to get, I would like one that receives DVB-T (UK Freeview i think). Im looking at the Hauppage Series as they seem pretty well supported. Any ideas?

I have a usb freecom one lying around but im not sure if this would work I cant see any success anywhere.

I would like to know if i will need to re-format the computer and re-install everything to get it working or can it be added after. Im hoping so but im not sure how to go about it on my system which I have been using for a couple of weeks and loving.

Thanks in advance.


Matt

[sharlee_angelo]

hauppauge are very well supported, as well as many others.

[Mike_Izisys]

Hi,

I haven't installed Linux MCE yet as I'm waiting for 1.1 release.  I just want to check my video cards look okay though.  I have 2 WinTV-NOVA-T DVB-T 90003 LF (Rev C2B0).  I am happy to got out and get better ones if I need to, once I have played around with a working system.  Here is some info:

dmesg:

[   14.384000] CORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 0070:9002, board: Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T [card=18,autodetected]
[   14.384000] TV tuner 4 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1fe

[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: Hauppauge model 90003, rev C2B0, serial# 784873
[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: MAC address is 00-0D-FE-0B-F9-E9
[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is Thompson DTT75105 (idx 110, type 4)
[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards ATSC/DVB Digital (eeprom 0x80)
[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is None (idx 0)
[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is CX882 (idx 25)
[   14.540000] tveeprom 2-0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has no IR transmitter
[   14.540000] cx88[0]: hauppauge eeprom: model=90003
[   14.540000] input: cx88 IR (Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T as /class/input/input4
[   14.540000] cx88[0]/0: found at 0000:01:07.0, rev: 5, irq: 21, latency: 20, mmio: 0xfa000000
[   14.540000] cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
[   14.540000] cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
[   14.540000] cx88[0]/2: cx2388x 8802 Driver Manager

I tried to install Klear and Kaffine to see if they worked, but it didn't seem to, but I am a Linux novice.

Thanks
Mike (London, UK)

[sharlee_angelo]

it seems that your card was recognized. try to watch tv with kdetv or tvtime.

[Mike_Izisys]

I just tried tvtime.  It didn't work.  I think it recognises the card but it isn't working properly.  Surely Ubuntu has the latest driver?  Is there a beginner’s guide to updating drivers anywhere?

[sharlee_angelo]

can you copy/paste the output of lsmod?

[Mike_Izisys]

Module                  Size  Used by
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cpufreq_conservative     8200  0
cpufreq_stats           7360  0
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freq_table              5792  3 powernow_k8,cpufreq_ondemand,cpufreq_stats
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tc1100_wmi              8068  0
sony_acpi               6284  0
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ac                      6020  0
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ipv6                  268704  12
lp                     12452  0
fuse                   46612  0
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usbserial              32488  1 ftdi_sio
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ide_cd                 32672  0
cdrom                  37664  1 ide_cd
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nvidia               4713780  22
cx8802                 19332  0
hci_usb                18204  2
bluetooth              55908  7 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb
agpgart                35400  1 nvidia
cx8800                 35212  0
cx88xx                 67364  2 cx8802,cx8800
ir_common              31236  1 cx88xx
serio_raw               7940  0
snd_timer              23684  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device          9100  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    54020  12 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
af_packet              23816  2
i2c_algo_bit            8712  1 cx88xx
tveeprom               15888  1 cx88xx
compat_ioctl32          2304  1 cx8800
btcx_risc               5896  3 cx8802,cx8800,cx88xx
videodev               28160  2 cx8800,cx88xx
v4l2_common            25216  2 cx8800,videodev
v4l1_compat            15236  2 cx8800,videodev
pcspkr                  4224  0
psmouse                38920  0
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jbd                    59816  1 ext3
mbcache                 9604  1 ext3
sg                     36252  0
sd_mod                 23428  3
amd74xx                15260  0 [permanent]
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ata_generic             9092  0
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ohci_hcd               22532  0
forcedeth              46728  0
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ehci_hcd               34188  0
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[sharlee_angelo]

from what i see, the drivers are loaded. so, it should work. make sure that you made the correct setup in tvtime. or, else, try kdetv.

[Mike_Izisys]

Is it one of these that tells me the drivers are loaded:

cx8802                 19332  0
cx8800                 35212  0
cx88xx                 67364  2 cx8802,cx8800

Because the Conexant chips have the following codes on:

DVB-T chip CX22702-25
Broadcast Decoder chip CX23882-39

In tvtime I selected Europe, then I unistalled and asked it to scan but neither made a difference.  The screen was black the whole time and it just showed DVB, but no channel number in the top right corner.  (Should it say DVB-T?)

I'll try kdetv as well.

[sharlee_angelo]

what is the exact model and name of the card?

[totallymaxed]

Hi Im loving using LinuxMCE its great.

I would like to know now which TV card to get, I would like one that receives DVB-T (UK Freeview i think). Im looking at the Hauppage Series as they seem pretty well supported. Any ideas?

I have a usb freecom one lying around but im not sure if this would work I cant see any success anywhere.

I would like to know if i will need to re-format the computer and re-install everything to get it working or can it be added after. Im hoping so but im not sure how to go about it on my system which I have been using for a couple of weeks and loving.

Thanks in advance.


Matt

We're using the Happauge T500 twin DVB-T tuner cards here in the UK... they work very nicely.

[DrACoNuS]

I am successfully using the Hauppage 500MCE dual tuner card with no problems, I am also using a firewire card hooked up to my Motorola HDTV receiver for high def recordings.

[Mike_Izisys]

The exact cards I am using are WinTV-NOVA-T-DVB-T 90003 LF (Rev C2B0)

If the dual 500 works I might invest in one of these, but it would be nice to see it working with these Nova-T's

Interested to hear about your setup DrACoNus - is that in the UK?  What High Def source are you using?

Mike

[Mike_Izisys]

FYI - this is what happened when I loaded kdetv:

X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  147
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  147
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  147
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
  Major opcode:  147
  Minor opcode:  3
  Resource id:  0x0
Failed to open device
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file /usr/share/applications/DefaultPlugins.desktop has Type=Link instead of "Application" or "Service"
kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : /usr/share/applications/DefaultPlugins.desktop
kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
DCOP Cleaning up dead connections.
ALSA lib control.c:910:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL
Creating vbi proxy client, rev.
$Id: proxy-client.c,v 1.12 2006/05/31 03:54:28 mschimek Exp $
proxy_msg: connect: error 2, No such file or directory
kdetv: WARNING: VBIDecoder: vbi_capture_proxy_new error: Connection via socket failed, server not running.
Try to open V4L2 0.20 VBI device, libzvbi interface rev.
  $Id: io-v4l2.c,v 1.33 2006/05/22 09:00:47 mschimek Exp $
Opened /dev/vbi0
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Try to open V4L2 2.6 VBI device, libzvbi interface rev.
  $Id: io-v4l2k.c,v 1.41 2006/05/31 03:54:00 mschimek Exp $.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Opened /dev/vbi0.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: /dev/vbi0 (Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T) is a v4l2 vbi device,
driver cx8800, version 0x00000006.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Using streaming interface.
libzvbi:v4l2_get_videostd: Current scanning system is 625.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Querying current vbi parameters...
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: ...success.
libzvbi:print_vfmt: VBI capture parameters supported: format 59455247 [GREY], 35468950 Hz, 2048 bpl, offs 244, F1 6...22, F2 318...334, flags 00000000.
libzvbi:print_vfmt: VBI capture parameters granted: format 59455247 [GREY], 35468950 Hz, 2048 bpl, offs 244, F1 6...22, F2 318...334, flags 00000000.
libzvbi:vbi3_raw_decoder_add_services: No services to add.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Nyquist check passed.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Request decoding of services 0x60000c7f, strict level -1.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x00000020 (Closed Caption 525, field 1) requires videostd_set 0x2, have 0x0.
libzvbi:_vbi_sampling_par_permit_service: Service 0x00000040 (Closed Caption 525, field 2) requires videostd_set 0x2, have 0x0.
libzvbi:v4l2_update_services: Will capture services 0x0000041f, added 0x41f commit=1.
libzvbi:v4l2_stream_alloc: Requesting 16 streaming i/o buffers.
libzvbi:v4l2_stream_alloc: Mapping 16 streaming i/o buffers.
libzvbi:capture_v4l2k_new: Successfully opened /dev/vbi0 (Hauppauge Nova-T DVB-T).
kdetv: WARNING: MainWindow::setupInfraRed(): Lirc not available
kdetv: WARNING: SaverControl: Error in DCOP communication. Unable to disable KDE Screensaver.
kdetv: WARNING: VolumeController::doSetVolume: AudioManager failed, trying SourceManager
kdetv: WARNING: VolumeController::doSetVolume: AudioManager failed, trying SourceManager

[Hugolp]

The exact cards I am using are WinTV-NOVA-T-DVB-T 90003 LF (Rev C2B0)

If the dual 500 works I might invest in one of these, but it would be nice to see it working with these Nova-T's

Interested to hear about your setup DrACoNus - is that in the UK?  What High Def source are you using?

Mike

I own a wintv-nova-t-500 (the european dual turner) and there is a problem in the kernel with its drivers, that makes the kernel ops, and it might crash the system or it might make you quit the video aplication you are using. So right now and before a update is released is a no-way. Its a shame because its a good card, but not even the newest kernel solve this. Well have to wait a bit to use this card.

Hugo