8.10 EOL April 30, 2010 Headache

[Chekov]

Kubuntu 8.10 reached end of life a year and a half ago.  I'm having a hard time sorting out which parts of the different installation procedures that I'm supposed to follow to install and then update and/or upgrade Kubuntu so I can install LinuxMCE (that I've been wanting to try for a long time)! 

Any chance of publishing an image that's ready to go with all the sources corrected, or, one proven step by step installation procedure (that can even be followed by non-guru types)?

Thanks.

[PaulH]

1. Download LMCE 8.10 Final and burn to disk.  http://linuxmce.iptp.org/release/LinuxMCE-8.10-final.iso (from http://www.linuxmce.org/)
2. Have patients. Everytime I rushed, I got burned when installing. Make sure Internet access is functional.
3. Install LMCE. This is a 2 part process. First, it installs Kubuntu 8.10 and takes you to KDE desktop. From the terminal of kubuntu you further need to do apt-get update*   and then apt-get dist-upgrade.
    Second, Install LMCE from Kubuntu desktop (install icon)
    * is to indicate that I suspect some repository issue that you have to overcome according to http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php/topic,12083.0.html. I would like to know how you resolve this if you would.
4. Let it go through it's motions. sometimes you don't see much happening but it is doing it's thing. May be a longer wait if Internet speeds are low.
5. This will bring you to AV Wizard and you'd have to configure it according to your desired setup.
6. You can't PXE boot any other connected MDs just as yet till you do   /usr/pluto/bin/Diskless_CreateTBZ.sh from KDE terminal. ( do not combine this with step 3 above)
7. refer to http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Category:Tutorials when you want to explore. some are bit outdated but most are very useful.
Good Luck

PS. I am a newbi myself and finding my way around also. But above mentioned steps gives me good results when installing LMCE810Final

[Chekov]

PaulH, thanks for reply.

OK, finally got the sources.list file modified (file permissions are such a pain) and ran aptitude update and aptitude dist-upgrade.  The 810 install page indicates this, you   suggested apt-get - what's the difference?  All looked ok except for 3 duplicate sources errors.  Is this important?  Reboot went fine.

What's with the medibuntu installation suggested on the 810 install page.  Isn't there one good install procedure!?

I'm installing LMCE through VMware and saving a backup every step of the way this time (I hate doing things over).

Will try the LMCE install after this next backup ...

Thanks.

[tkmedia]

From the terminal of kubuntu you further need to do apt-get update*   and then apt-get dist-upgrade.

Should not be needed as it has been added to the lmce portion of the install.

Everything else looks ok

Tim

[Chekov]

Hi Tim,

It may not be needed, but running the update and upgrade still grabbed a *bunch* of files.
Did not install medibuntu before LMCE install.
Screen currently at "installing firefox" ... will carry on tonight.

Jason

[Chekov]

Ok, so I came back to the system and the LMCE display would not respond, even to cntl-alt-F2.  Forced a reboot and now the system has finished starting the Samba daemons and is now asking for dcerouter login.  So I log in with my user name and password and I end up at a prompt.  Where's Linux MCE???

Help!

[Chekov]

Ok, found a thread with instructions to login and type sudo startx. 
I'm back at the desktop ... but where do I go from here? 
The start menu isn't working correctly ...

Help!

[PaulH]

"Ok, found a thread with instructions to login and type sudo startx.
I'm back at the desktop ... but where do I go from here?
The start menu isn't working correctly ..."

Sorry to say, I am too at the same stage.
Waiting for someone in the know to respond.

[Chekov]

Hey Paul,

Well, after going through the command tool install of LMCE and once again getting to the "Installing Firefox" screen, I hit cntl-alt-F2 and the hard disk went back to thrashing for a reeeeeally long time.  Once it stopped - I'm still at the black screen?  What now?  Forcing a reboot will probably put me back at the dcerouter login screen and still without an operating LMCE.  ARGH!

I'm really liking the concept of LMCE, and I too realize that a LOT of work has gone into it, but maybe I should put it back on the shelf until a working solution is published like indicated in another of today's post at:
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php/topic,12083.15.html

Best Regards.

[PaulH]

Hi Chekov,
I have had good luck with 8.10 versions until very recently. However, getting this going now has become a bit of a task. I really like what LMCE can do apart from just being a media center. I guess if I want it bad enough, I should stick with it. Right now, I am in the process of installing 10.04 in my virtualbox setup. I could always go back to 8.10Final on a later day if 10.04 beta put me in a spin.

[EDIT] 11-5-11
I just finished installing LMCE10.04Beta in VB. Relatively hazel free install if you follow the steps in wiki. Going through my set up at the moment. Being Beta, I am sure some modules may not work but that is work in progress. Remember to start with Kubuntu 10.04.

[EDIT] 11-6-11
I see LMCE810 is fixed. Thanks to all responsible for get it going. I'll reinstall in VB tomorrow and have a go at it.
I like what I see in 10.04. Much more responsive than 8.10F I thought.

Paul

[purps]

There are a number of people trying to sort out the wiki, it will take time, but hopefully it will completely change the new user experience once complete.

Cheers,
Matt.

[purps]

Hi Tim,

It may not be needed, but running the update and upgrade still grabbed a *bunch* of files.
Did not install medibuntu before LMCE install.
Screen currently at "installing firefox" ... will carry on tonight.

Jason

I believe Tim was referring to the LMCE installation, not the Kubuntu installation i.e. when you click the LMCE icon, that's when the update/upgrade automatically happens.

Cheers,
Matt.

[Sigg3.net]

How's it like to install in VB? Do you get access to the plug and play devices around the house?

[PaulH]

Hi Sigg3.net,
Installing both LMCE 810 and 1004 went smoothly in VB. There was this tutorial in wiki "Installing LinuxMCE on Virtual Machine via VirtualBox" and I followed it well. Very good success.
The only thing I did differently is Network setup. I have 2 NICs in my core. After installing HOST OS (Ubuntu 11.04 desktop) I disabled my second NIC in Ubuntu Network setup.
I found out it doesn't matter whether you do this before or after installing LMCE. However, there were couple of things worth mentioning. I had to setup my first NIC as a NAT and the second NIC as a Bridge
with allow all in Advanced setup. I know wiki tells me otherwise and advice of a guru, but this is the only way I managed to get plug and play of LMCE going in my system throgh VB setup. I'll experiment with different setups later on.
My set up is: Cable Modem to Cisco Valet wifi, 1 port of the Valet is connected to NIC 1 of the core. NIC 2 of the core goes to a 24 port switch (Dell 2624) and all other devices (HDHomerun, Sipura 3102 and all other MDs and computers of the house, connects to this switch. Plug & Play works for me well.
Good Luck.
Paul