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tkteun:
Could it be possible to have dcerouter run on such limited hardware as commercially available routers which have extremely limited amounts of Flash, limited RAM and CPU. But are power efficient high level networking devices that usually operate reliable and are built for throughput.

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There are many different versions of dd-wrt with the big and mega variants also include big applications like asterisk, samba, sftp and VPN etc..

I don't believe it will be possible to have standalone dce as an independant daemon any time soon, there are too many different tasks that now (initially) requires absolute control over the server.
Many people already have a cheap router that's online 24/7 and is configured as a home gateway, with usb and uart/gpio it is relatively simple to connect home automation and storage. These devices don't have the processing capacity to modify the data they transport, those tasks could be handled by another system like a living room PC which has to be capable of HD decoding. I also have to pay my energy bills and don't really like to keep those things switched on, but for a telephony application and home automation server this is inconvenient.

On dd-wrt they use Optware for loading services from external memory, maybe standalone dce could be an alternative configuration featuring dcerouter and a configurable number of services.

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I must say that I don't really know more about linuxmce than I've read in the wiki and seen on youtube, but if I'm assuming things or if this discussion has already taken place, please excuse me.

I only hope to see more interest from people that have more time than money. When it's possible to experiment on something you already own, you'll have a better understanding of the requirements and are more likely to invest in useful devices.

tkmedia:
Take a look at http://micasaverde.com/vera2 vera  is basically what your decribing



HTH


Tim

totallymaxed:
Also look even closer to home here;

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?board=354.0

Hari has been working on this for some time now :-)

All the best


Andrew

tkteun:
@totallymaxed: Yeah, that's here right? I was already hoping I'd get some response from Hari, I compiled his image on my Guruplug and have been looking at the installation scripts. I didn't dare installing it because it's in use.

@tkmedia: That's exactly what I'm talking about, except that's a $250 Asus WL-500GP which I can also get locally for € 60. It runs Openwrt with dcerouter on a 240MHz MIPS processor with only 16/32MB, so technically it's possible and already done before.
I don't know if Hari is also active in that project, but they released their source code here: wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Source_Code

If it would be possible to release that project on dd-wrt it would open up LinuxMCE to a much broader audience, the ones that thought they could never afford such things.
Now it's quite a niche market, which is dominated by the big electrical installation market and the pathetic Apple and Microsoft attempts that imitate companies like B&O with heavy vendor lock-in.

LinuxMCE could cross that gap to Windows home server like the beloved XMPP project did with the xbox. But Windows home server isn't selling because it's expensive and requires a complete Intel PC to be running 24/7.

I'd like to know why the 'Core' wiki page states the core should run on a dual core 64bit Intel machine?

When the video capturing is moved to the primary media director and no streaming security cameras are needed there isn't really any use for such a processor. If that vera2 is able to run everything described on their website it seems there's hardly any limitation to functionality on a basic and very power efficient processor.

phenigma:

--- Quote from: tkteun on April 01, 2011, 03:26:45 am ---If it would be possible to release that project on dd-wrt it would open up LinuxMCE to a much broader audience, the ones that thought they could never afford such things.

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The page you pointed to says the source is based on OpenWRT kamikaze, dd-wrt is very similar, I run open-wrt software (asterisk) easily on dd-wrt.  You may have success with micasaverde.


--- Quote from: tkteun on April 01, 2011, 03:26:45 am ---I'd like to know why the 'Core' wiki page states the core should run on a dual core 64bit Intel machine?

When the video capturing is moved to the primary media director and no streaming security cameras are needed there isn't really any use for such a processor. If that vera2 is able to run everything described on their website it seems there's hardly any limitation to functionality on a basic and very power efficient processor.

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I would suggest that this is all about scale.  As an example: If you store a lot of media, mysql and updatemedia both run on the core/hybrid, depending on the size of your media collection your cpu usage could be pretty hefty at times.  With well over 2.5TB of media, 50k+ audio and 5k+ video files I can regularly see 100% cpu usage (one core fully utilized) of my dual core AMD 3.2Ghz cpu.  This is not constant, but regular enough that the second core is required if I want responsive orbiters or stutter free media playback.  As for the 64-bit, that may be a good suggestion for 0710 but there are no 64-bit versions of lmce for 0810 or 1004 currently.

J.

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