Ubuntu 8.10 end of life breaks installer

[mythtified]

Could somebody please come with a "cookbook" for installing latest snapshot (23388, 23426 or 23431)?

I have tried all, updated the sources list - but haven't manage even seeing the A/V wizard!

The install process differs quite a lot from 23388 to 23431 - so info on which order to do which steps in which snapshot to get the best result would be much appreciated.

Am not a total noob (be working with CentOS/Red Hat for 10+ years. And even at some point (probably 0710) tested LinuxMCE...


-Toppot

Any recent snapshot with a file size of 3.8GB should work.  The old-repositories issue has been fixed.  I have done a successful install with 23388 and edit the sources.list with the old-repositories.  It could be that a newer snapshot could come out with the sources.list fixed but it should be visually verified.

I boot from the LMCE dvd and select the lmce installation at the bottom of the list.  I make the selections from the subsequent initial screens and let it install.  Once that has finished I edit my sources.list and replace any lines that have either us.archive, archive, or security to old-releases.  I also make sure that the 20dev_ubuntu main line is present.  I then save this and do a sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade installing anything that is found.  I make sure that the latest nvidia driver is activated.  I reboot the machine.  Once the machine is at the desktop I click the lmce installation link on the desktop, enter my password when prompted, and find something else to do until it tells me to reboot again.  This will bring me to the AV Wizard.  If you are not seeing the AV Wizard at this point then you may be connected to a graphics port that is not defaulted to in the install.  I believe that vga is the default connector for the AV Wizard.  If connected to the DVI connector then you may get the black screen that has been discussed on this forum and has a post that has been pinned.  You can either move you cable to the appropriate connector or follow the directions given in the other posts.

[nite_man]

Why do not host Ubuntu 8.10 repositories on the LinuxMCE server? In that case, we won't have such problems.

[ghope5]

I consider myself even though I have been running 710 for 2 years , a newbe . Since I tried 810 version 23438 I have been fortunate in that the system booted to the Kumbuntu desktop.I tried to do the updates as directed in the forum apt-get update
was pretty much what every one else is getting lots of 404 errors  the apt-get dist-upgrade seemed to go fine. I then installed LinuxMce The setup went fine MythTv worked,I set up my analog tuner and the TV works. will some one please explain to This possibility very lucky to get this far old guy, how do I bring up the source list and edit it to get the old releases. it would be very helpful to do a step by step of this process if someone would be so kind .

[huh]

This is how I do it- YMMV:

Using the existing sources, install nano from a terminal (note, I couldn't install nano when the new sources file was added- this could be because not all of the sources were properly fixed at Ubuntu...).  I use a windows box and use putty to ssh into the core, else you can (IIRC) Alt+F4 (or any of the F's except for F7 & F8):

So, get a terminal, log into the core and either run sudo command before all of the below, or simply type "su" then your password at the prompt:

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apt-get install nano

Accept that it's going to install the file and take up whatever space it takes.

Next, make a backup of your current sources file- actually you're just renaming the current file to *.list.OLD, but it works as a backup:

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mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.OLD

Next copy in the new sources list from the above source into the new sources.list file:

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nano /etc/apt/sources.list

Nano will open and allow you type in the new sources.  If you do it on putty from a windows box, I've found that can simply right click the mouse and it acts as paste.  The first time I did this I didn't have the window open large enough so the end of the source lines ended with "$" rather than the rest of the link.  Just make sure that what you copy from above is the same as what get pasted into sources.list.  (Another option maybe to create the sources.list file somewhere else (e.g. from notepad) and get it to your core.  I would just use windows exporer, go to \\192.168.80.1 (or whatever you have as the ip address of your core), log in with your credentials as requested and copy the file to some directory on your core.  From there, you can get to a terminal, login as root (su or sudo) and move the file to the correct location ("mv sources.list /etc/apt/")

Here's the list again (I copied directly from mine because I'm can't find the pinned post):

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deb file:/usr/pluto/deb-cache/ ./
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-security  main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ intrepid  beta2
deb http://debian.slimdevices.com/ stable  main
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ intrepid  free non-free
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ 20dev_ubuntu  main
deb http://deb.linuxmce.org/ubuntu/ replacements_debian  main

Then cntrl + x to exit nano- it will prompt you to save the file.  

There have been a number of posts about what to run as for updating and upgrading.  This is what I do and prepare to get twapted.

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apt-get update
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get upgrade

I run apt-get update twice- doesn't seem like the first time all sources are property searched for new files.  And I agree to install all of the packages when asked.

Please note that you have to do this on all of your MDs- the process is identical including install nano at the beginning before changing the sources file.  To do this, you need to know your MD's device numbers, I either use the web admin to look at the media directors, or from the terminal pull up the list of devices:

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cd /usr/pluto/diskless
ls

The numbers listed are the numbers you would use after moon.

For example I had "100", "51" and "74"

To log into the media director in my family room (just by chance I happen to know it is 100) I just ssh into it:

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ssh moon100

At the terminal then, just go though the above steps starting with "apt-get install nano"

After getting the packages (apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get update), exit from that MD to go back to the core to ssh into the next MD.  This is not a necessary step, but I don't like the idea of hoping from core -> Media Director -> Media Director -> Media Director to update the last one.  Would rather go Core -> MD1, exit, then Core -> MD2.

For the sake of clarity (and risk too much repetition) I would then log into the next MD:

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ssh moon51

This is how I do it...

FWIW

[ghope5]

Thank you "huh" I appreciate your how to do it. I hope this is not to dumb a question, but I don't know what to do with
the instruction ctrl+ v is this after I type in your code starting with deb file:/user/pluto/deb-cash .
Then you say to cntrl + x to exit nano, is this  a typo here. I have stopped after nano /etc/apt/sources.list.
My terminal is blank with a cursor at the top of the page, is this what I should see at this point. I would love to learn more about linux code can you recommend a good starter book.

thanks: Gord Hope

[huh]

I don't know what to do with the instruction ctrl+ v is this after I type in your code starting with deb file:/user/pluto/deb-cash .
Then you say to cntrl + x to exit nano, is this  a typo here.

My apologies, you can't control + v.  Shortcut to paste command doesn't work.  Instead, I will copy the sources.list information from this forum with my windows box (just highlight and "copy") then log into my core with putty, open the sources.list file with nano (it will be blank here as that nano creates the file if it does not exist- which it won't because you moved the original file to sources.list.OLD) and from there right click to paste in the lines.

If you're a better typer than me (and/or more patient to check every character) you can also just manually type in the sources.

To exit nano, then, press "ctrl" + "x" and you will be prompted to save the file.  Press "Y" to save the changes.  From there you can apt-get update....

Sorry for misleading- I corrected my original post.

[kilo]

Ok
Im getting this error now after doing apt-get update.....

W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Any ideas?

Thanks

Kilo

[kilo]

Ok
They stop supporting intrepid on that site too.
Anyone have a replacement for those archives now.

Thanks

Kilo

[erasmot]

Ok
Im getting this error now after doing apt-get update.....

W: GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems

Any ideas?

Thanks

Kilo

sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring

[jh15]

Kilo did you get your system and mythtv running?

I see various workarounds, don't know where to check, updates etc.

[huh]

Hey- I'm somewhat tempted to remove my sources posted above...  Just tried to reinstall with the latest snapshot (Nov 23, 2010) and not all of the sources are available.   I copied possible replacements from Chrysemys' wiki page here http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/User:Chrysemys page which seemed to solve the problem when the missing sources were commented out....  While my core seems to be running great, I cannot get createTBZ to complete successfully causing all of the MDs to fail to properly connect to the core.

Not sure what the proper steps to take to get a stable, MD compatible installation.  Thom and crew have been working (from what I saw on irc over the last couple weeks) hard to get a build working on 1004... I think my plan right now is to limp along with just the core until another snapshot is released.

[mythtified]

I think your problem is the latest snapshot.  I don't believe that all of the files are being pulled into the dvd and during the lmce install some packages aren't found.  An example of this is the nvidia 195 driver.  I had to manually install that while playing with a latest snapshot.  I would go back to a previous snapshot from 11-1.  I believe it is 23388.  That was the last good snapshot before the version went end of life.

[phenigma]

Right now the latest snapshots are more than likely broken.

I have just completed a successful installation of a Hybrid and diskless MD, everything appears to be working (that I've tested).  I used snapshot 23251, changed sources.list to point to old-releases, did an apt-get dist-upgrade and ran the install script.  Everything just worked...

They stop supporting intrepid on that site too.
Anyone have a replacement for those archives now.

At this time medibuntu packages for Intrepid appear to still be available at the following mirror:

deb ftp://ftp.leg.uct.ac.za/pub/linux/medibuntu/ intrepid free non-free

J.

[mythtified]

The medibuntu site seems to work.  I just started another test install and was able to do an apt-get dist-upgrade that installed a couple of packages from their site.

[DragonK]

The medibuntu site seems to work.  I just started another test install and was able to do an apt-get dist-upgrade that installed a couple of packages from their site.

Hi, This is a STUPID question but,

I've read many threads where users do "apt-get dist-upgrade" but the install notes indicate not to do it 
From the Wiki; http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Installing_0810

Keeping Up-to-date with updates
Note It is strongly recommend that you do not update/upgrade a stable, working system user:L3mce

Once you have installed LinuxMCE-0810, all you need to do to keep up-to-date with the latest and greatest, is run the following from a terminal on the core and each MD:

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
Note: You should NOT run apt-get dist-upgrade after LinuxMCE is installed, as it can cause several problems, including having different kernel versions on your core and media directors, and the installation of new Kubuntu packages that can break some features!

Regards Karel