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Z-Wave Controller: Seluxit viaSENS vs Aeon Labs Z-Wave Interface

Started by purps, June 18, 2009, 02:45:11 PM

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purps

Hello all,

Was just what wondering what the advantages/disadvantages of these two units are?

From what I have read, the viaSENS is the RECOMMENDED unit for Europe. However, the Aeon Labs one has a built-in inclusion remote. Am I right in saying that in the case of the viaSENS, you would have to purchase a separate inclusion remote? Is the Aeon Labs unit "plug & play" in 0710?

If the answer to these two questions is 'yes', then why would you want the viaSENS over the Aeon Labs unit?

Cheers.
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totallymaxed

Quote from: purps on June 18, 2009, 02:45:11 PM
Hello all,

Was just what wondering what the advantages/disadvantages of these two units are?

From what I have read, the viaSENS is the RECOMMENDED unit for Europe. However, the Aeon Labs one has a built-in inclusion remote. Am I right in saying that in the case of the viaSENS, you would have to purchase a separate inclusion remote? Is the Aeon Labs unit "plug & play" in 0710?

If the answer to these two questions is 'yes', then why would you want the viaSENS over the Aeon Labs unit?

Cheers.

I am pretty sure that the Aeon Labs unit is the same as the Micasaverde ZWave stick...so it should work if that is the case. The ViaSens seems to have better range down to its more sophisticated aerial design and is by far the best built unit... but has older firmware and does not support SIS mode.

Andrew
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purps

Thanks for the reply.

What does 'SIS' stand for, and what does it mean?

Does the "built-in inclusion remote" on the Aeon Labs unit work as it should? Because that is another expenditure with the viaSENS right?
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hari

the viaSENS _does_ support SIS mode and is _the best_ controller available. The lower library version does not affect us yet as there are no EU freq schlage/b&d locks yet.. and 5.x has so many bugs that zensys now ships a 4.x branch..

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totallymaxed

Quote from: hari on June 19, 2009, 03:32:22 AM
the viaSENS _does_ support SIS mode and is _the best_ controller available. The lower library version does not affect us yet as there are no EU freq schlage/b&d locks yet.. and 5.x has so many bugs that zensys now ships a 4.x branch..

br, Hari

Hmmm...does it. When we last tried one our units (with your assistance) the ViaSENS did not handle SIS correctly. Was that a function of the driver version at the time?

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hari

I've implemented the SIS bits with the Seluxit controller. It's just that the remote you are using does not enable SIS properly sometimes with the download config step to set up the SIS for the network. So I prefer to use the DCE "Add Node" command sent via web admin. But that's not available in 0710 yet.

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Techstyle

Just to Confirm the Aeon Labs and MCV Sticks are the same.  MCV buy them from Aeon Labs
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totallymaxed

Quote from: Techstyle on June 21, 2009, 04:18:35 AM
Just to Confirm the Aeon Labs and MCV Sticks are the same.  MCV buy them from Aeon Labs

Yep they do....and Aeon Labs have them built in China ;-)
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purps

Thanks for the replies chaps.

So does the viaSENS require the purchase of an inclusion remote, or is it possible to add switches, etc, without one?
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totallymaxed

Quote from: purps on June 21, 2009, 02:06:02 PM
Thanks for the replies chaps.

So does the viaSENS require the purchase of an inclusion remote, or is it possible to add switches, etc, without one?

With the viaSENS you need and inclusion controller to include devices with.

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hari

or a primary or use high power inclusion (but only newer devices support it).

br, hari
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purps

Thanks for the replies chaps.

Think I may go for the MCV one in this case - I understand that it's not as well built and that the antenna is not as sophisticated as the viasens, but generally speaking it sounds like it's going to be a lot easier for me to handle with regards to adding devices (not to mention cheaper).

Thanks again.
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hari

that depends. A network with a SUC/SIS gives you much better reliability.

br, Hari
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purps

What is SUC/SIS? How does it give better network reliability?

You're making me lean more towards the Seluxit now.... :)
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