Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!

[colinjones]

Andrew - seen elsewhere (Mantis, I think) that there may have been a change in direction to abstract the perl code from the configuration, so that we only need provide the basic SIP details in a config file (or typed in directly during set up), rather than doing the whole customisation of the script for each provider. Am I reading that correctly?

[RichardP]

We are looking for people to contribute new Phone Line Provider scripts for providers in their country/region that are not already available in the 'Provider' pop-up in Wizard -> Devices -> Phone Lines

I've done a couple of files but could find no way to test them. I expected to be able to simply dump the new files into a directory somewhere and have them appear in the drop-down list. Can someone point me towards the code that produces the drop-down list so I can make this happen.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to handle this?

The possibilities I can see as workable are:

• The code reads all files which conform to the naming convention and displays them in the drop-down list.
• The code reads a configuration file which produces the list after verifying the files actually exist. This allows the possibility of only displaying a subset, like an UK list or an Australian list. It also allows a particular provider to be in more than one list, like being in both US and New York

 I dislike really long lists for performance/memory reasons, so I might add some functionality to split the list somehow into groups of some arbitary number if there are many items.

[totallymaxed]

Andrew - seen elsewhere (Mantis, I think) that there may have been a change in direction to abstract the perl code from the configuration, so that we only need provide the basic SIP details in a config file (or typed in directly during set up), rather than doing the whole customisation of the script for each provider. Am I reading that correctly?

Yes your basically correct... some re engineering of the code is underway. However please continue to add your perl provider files to Mantis as that part may in fact not change initially and we would like to get as many added as possible

[RichardP]

Andrew - seen elsewhere (Mantis, I think) that there may have been a change in direction to abstract the perl code from the configuration, so that we only need provide the basic SIP details in a config file (or typed in directly during set up), rather than doing the whole customisation of the script for each provider. Am I reading that correctly?

Yes your basically correct... some re engineering of the code is underway. However please continue to add your perl provider files to Mantis as that part may in fact not change initially and we would like to get as many added as possible

I guess that makes my previous post obsolete then 

Do you have a deadline for this? I've not added my scripts to the mantis yet, as I wanted to test it before uploading. I've found the PHP script to change to add them to the options in the Admin site, so I'll use that. However, now that beta3 is out, I thought I'd delay the testing until I've installed that. However, if your cut-off is going to fairly soon, I'll just upload the untested scripts.

Best Regards,
Richard.

[colinjones]

Richard - any would be good for AU! I ended up getting about 15 bites from VSPs, passed them on the script, but so far nothing back.... I think they are all struggling not surprising really. One got back to me and asked who they could use as a technical contact, which is why I asked that question, Richard... but I haven't told him you yet.

Seeming all a little too hard at this stage....

Col

[totallymaxed]

Andrew - seen elsewhere (Mantis, I think) that there may have been a change in direction to abstract the perl code from the configuration, so that we only need provide the basic SIP details in a config file (or typed in directly during set up), rather than doing the whole customisation of the script for each provider. Am I reading that correctly?

Yes your basically correct... some re engineering of the code is underway. However please continue to add your perl provider files to Mantis as that part may in fact not change initially and we would like to get as many added as possible

I guess that makes my previous post obsolete then 

Do you have a deadline for this? I've not added my scripts to the mantis yet, as I wanted to test it before uploading. I've found the PHP script to change to add them to the options in the Admin site, so I'll use that. However, now that beta3 is out, I thought I'd delay the testing until I've installed that. However, if your cut-off is going to fairly soon, I'll just upload the untested scripts.

Best Regards,
Richard.

I'd like to see as many scripts in the release as possible... but we'll keep adding them or provide a very accessible way for you guys to add them in the near future. So don't panic about hitting some deadline... but submit any you have when your ready ;-)

[RichardP]

Richard - any would be good for AU! I ended up getting about 15 bites from VSPs, passed them on the script, but so far nothing back.... I think they are all struggling not surprising really. One got back to me and asked who they could use as a technical contact, which is why I asked that question, Richard... but I haven't told him you yet.

Seeming all a little too hard at this stage....

Col

Go ahead and give them my details - I don't mind. You sound a little discouraged. Don't be - you can only do what you can do. At the moment, it's probably not a high priority for them because LMCE is not mainstream. Later on, that will change, as more people come on board - and the reason it will change is because Cousin Harry sees LMCE running in your lounge and thinks it is great. The small wins become a waterfall as time goes by, as more and more people become users and show their friends in turn.
So just hang it there, bro - it will all happen, one step at a time.

Best Regards,
Richard.

[coley]

I've one for Blueface in Ireland - I'll upload it once I've had a chance to test.
-Coley.

[Zaerc]

I was just messing about and figured I'd try using the "sipgate" provider with the acount details of my own (non-sipgate) provider and "it just worked", so it might be a simple solution for most to just change "sipgate" to something like "generic sip". Just a thought.

EDIT:

I did this using the web-admin, not the setup wizard btw, not sure if that matters.

[totallymaxed]

I've one for Blueface in Ireland - I'll upload it once I've had a chance to test.
-Coley.

Great. Thanks :-)

[totallymaxed]

I was just messing about and figured I'd try using the "sipgate" provider with the acount details of my own (non-sipgate) provider and "it just worked", so it might be a simple solution for most to just change "sipgate" to something like "generic sip". Just a thought.

EDIT:

I did this using the web-admin, not the setup wizard btw, not sure if that matters.

Yes with some providers that may work... but some require different config data and then you hit problems suing this approach.

[Zaerc]

I was just messing about and figured I'd try using the "sipgate" provider with the acount details of my own (non-sipgate) provider and "it just worked", so it might be a simple solution for most to just change "sipgate" to something like "generic sip". Just a thought.

EDIT:

I did this using the web-admin, not the setup wizard btw, not sure if that matters.

Yes with some providers that may work... but some require different config data and then you hit problems suing this approach.

Hence I said "most", the ones requiring different settings can always remain seperate, or maybe the generic-sip provider could be slightly expanded with some advanced settings.  I wasn't really suggesting a "one size fits all" solution, but I reckon most would require just about the same default settings.

[Darren404]

Shaw in Canada, one of the main cable and internet service providers is offering VOIP now. I have a feeling it might be built into the modems.  I was thinking of trying them out. If there is anything i can do to add them to the list let me know.

[colinjones]

Richard - any would be good for AU! I ended up getting about 15 bites from VSPs, passed them on the script, but so far nothing back.... I think they are all struggling not surprising really. One got back to me and asked who they could use as a technical contact, which is why I asked that question, Richard... but I haven't told him you yet.

Seeming all a little too hard at this stage....

Col

Go ahead and give them my details - I don't mind. You sound a little discouraged. Don't be - you can only do what you can do. At the moment, it's probably not a high priority for them because LMCE is not mainstream. Later on, that will change, as more people come on board - and the reason it will change is because Cousin Harry sees LMCE running in your lounge and thinks it is great. The small wins become a waterfall as time goes by, as more and more people become users and show their friends in turn.
So just hang it there, bro - it will all happen, one step at a time.

Best Regards,
Richard.

Richard - I just forwarded to you the feedback I got from one VSP...