EDIT very limited SUCCESS

1/butchered template 1920 even tho it wasn't showing the vendorDevice ID template, 1754 allready had tricklestar pnp info deleted
2/determined by dmesg which ttyUSB being usedfor the pl2303
3/changed the tv template (admin->advanced ->config -> device templates) so com port on pc parameter has /dev/ttyUSB1 entered as default value
4/admin->wizard->devices->av pick template 1856 in my case .... av wizrd kicks in...complete..and yes I have control
........after 2 solid days 
hope this helps someone else
many thanks Tim
regards
Ian



1/butchered template 1920 even tho it wasn't showing the vendorDevice ID template, 1754 allready had tricklestar pnp info deleted
2/determined by dmesg which ttyUSB being usedfor the pl2303
3/changed the tv template (admin->advanced ->config -> device templates) so com port on pc parameter has /dev/ttyUSB1 entered as default value
4/admin->wizard->devices->av pick template 1856 in my case .... av wizrd kicks in...complete..and yes I have control




hope this helps someone else
many thanks Tim
regards
Ian