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Users / need help after latest upgrade
« on: May 01, 2010, 09:23:05 pm »
This morning I did apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade on my 2 MDs and my core.  All seemed to go smoothly, but after rebooting them all I ran into these problems:

*smb issues - I thought I had edited the right stuff based on another thread ( ), but even after trying a couple things I had to downgrade back to an older version.  I guess it's not a huge deal, but I'd really like to be able to upgrade without going back to an older version of samba every time. 

*Core no longer boots to LinuxMCE, just a regular Kubuntu login. 

*My gyration remote no longer completely works in Myth.  No clue if it's specific to the remote or not, but at a minimum the back arrow no longer takes me back a menu.  Pretty much makes it impossible to do things like back out from recorded media and get to live TV or even just back out of what is playing without completely exiting Myth.  It does still make the linuxmce menu go away so it appears to be Myth specific.

Users / Re: swap interfaces confirmation
« on: April 30, 2010, 03:32:42 pm »
Yup, swap interfaces worked fine.  I thought I had read where some people had problems with that, but I'm guessing they had other issues.

Users / swap interfaces confirmation
« on: April 29, 2010, 10:00:47 pm »
My core has 2 nics, the on-board 1G nic setup for the WAN and a 100M card configured to the LAN.  Clearly not optimal and I want to swap them.  As I understand it, I should be able to simply click "swap interfaces" the advanced network settings in web admin, then physically swap the cables.  Before I do this, can someone confirm this works like I expect it to in 810?

Users / Re: How can I use the wi-fi card as a second NIC?
« on: April 25, 2010, 07:52:52 pm »
You can probably get the Wifi working on the external side (WAN/Internet) of a core, as mentioned trying to use it on the internal side (LAN) is a no-no.  The issue I see is trying to use an ION as a core/md hybrid if this is what you are attempting.  I'm using an ION as just a MD, 2G ram, 1.6Ghz single core cpu.  My experiences + looking at benchmarks tells me it would not make a good hybrid.  Some of the slowness may be from the network drive, and it plays movies beautifully, but it feels underpowered as it is in some areas.

nite_man - I think you mean to say to log onto the MD that is playing the video, which may be a hybrid but will not be a dedicated core.

Users / Re: Hardware acceleration, i.e. VDPAU under 0810
« on: April 21, 2010, 11:42:39 pm »
I have no idea about your problems but I can confirm that vdpau does in fact work.  Not sure if I tried .mkv files, but .mp4 and MythTV both play great on an ION netbook after enabling VDPAU in the web admin AND in MythTV.  HDTV was unwatchable until I set this, I didn't try any ripped blu-ray movies before turning on VDPAU, but I suspect they would also have sucked.  I also learned if you enable VDPAU in MythTV on a MD with a non-vdpau video card you cannot get into MythTV at all.  LMCE jumps straight to TV, which fails and exits.  I had forgot I swapped an older card into my core/md... 

Users / Re: Getting 5.1 surround sound?
« on: April 18, 2010, 07:06:12 pm »
Thanks for the reply Lexje, some good info there.  My thoughts:

wireless/HD - Wireless boot does not work.  It's not a LinuxMCE thing, it's a wireless thing.  Wireless cards (typically) just do not support PXE boot.  Wireless also isn't a great solution for streaming video.  However, if you could setup LinuxMCE to boot from it's HD and use wireless N just for streaming media I think it would be handy and work fine.  Wireless shares bandwidth with all wireless devices, but for a limited number of devices where it's inconvenient to get a LAN drop (such as my guest bedroom) it would be a good option.  Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to setup 810 to boot from HD.  I wish it was. 

TV - I have a Sharp Aquos LC-LC6077UN sitting in my otherwise empty media room right now.  :)  If it's not fully plug & play with the AVWizard I will be coming back to this post and following your suggestions.  For testing I have setup my HP Mini 311 (ION based netbook) and the only output I can get working is VGA.  I haven't really put any effort into it as I don't intend to use it as a MD for that TV, but it seems ION gpus are not as fully plug and play yet.

sound - I'm almost completely sold on the Revo 3600 as it's dual core with s/pdif out.  Hopefully this will avoid the setup complications you mentioned as well as no need for a USB sound card.

keyboard/mouse - Does this not work for you out of the box?  The big reason I am leaning toward the Acer over the $30 cheaper Zotac is the included wireless keyboard/mouse.  If this doesn't work then I'll probably save the $30 and go with the nearly identical Zotac.

Users / Re: Tuner Card which one.
« on: April 18, 2010, 04:18:52 am »
If all you need is digital cable, the HDHomeRun is a great choice.  It's dual digital tuners only, so no analog channels, but as a network device it doesn't use any slots in your server.

Users / Re: Getting 5.1 surround sound?
« on: April 17, 2010, 12:17:10 am »
No HDMI in S/PDIF out on this TV.  In fact, I chatted with tech support and was told it has no surround sound capability at all.  There isn't even a way to get surround sound using the built-in tuner and digital cable, only stereo.  Not a much of an issue to me as my current main TV is only hooked up to a MD and a Wii. Would be nice though, more options if all I need is surround sound over HDMI from the MD.

Here is my current plan (I'm still open to suggestions):
Sharp  LC-C6077UN (60" LCD) HDTV
Acer Aspire Revo AR3610 (dual core Atom w/ION gpu and S/PDIF out)
Logitec Z-5500 5.1 surround sound speakers
Gyration 3201 remote (no USBUIRT)

I'm not quite sure how I'm going to control volume.  I'll probably tell Sara "no sound" which really means no external sound device, the speakers are connected to the MD itself.  Then I can set the speakers at a reasonable level and use the remote to adjust the mixer volume on the MD. 

There is a Zotac that is basically the same as the Revo for about $30 less, but it doesn't come with wireless keyboard/mouse.  It's rare that I use the keyboard/mouse on an MD, but often enough to make it worth it. 

Users / Re: Getting 5.1 surround sound?
« on: April 16, 2010, 06:28:59 pm »
I know a USB sound card is not ideal, but in looking at various ION netbooks available the few that do actually have S/PDIF out seem to have a $$ premium. 

I've done some searching here and read posts ranging from 5.1 over a usb sound card worked out of the box, to it works but cuts out from time to time, to it works if you manually change some things, to it doesn't work at all.  The problem is other than one reference to a sblive 24 box nobody seems to mention which usb sound card they are using. 

Can anyone recommend a cheap usb sound card with optical out that will work with little or no hassle?

Users / Re: User interface is not very good looking
« on: April 16, 2010, 05:08:45 am »
I think there are probably some people that would want a PIP feature (real PIP for having two video feeds on screen at once such as keeping track of two games at the same time), but I've never used PIP so it makes no difference to me.  I'm looking forward to the new orbiter even though it's a couple years away, so quit answering my stupid posts!  :)

Users / Re: User interface is not very good looking
« on: April 16, 2010, 02:04:31 am »
So you will be removing the PIP type box from ui1, or whatever replaces it then? 

Users / Re: User interface is not very good looking
« on: April 16, 2010, 01:05:03 am »
I agree, and disagree.  I'm not saying LinuxMCE should go the way of MythTV, but the whole UI gently overlaid is certainly not true either.  I really like the way the main menu doesn't block the other stuff when media is playing, but go into the video menu, or audio, etc. and it blocks everything (or blends with the background). 

If you want coverart and enough movies per screen it kinda has to. 

Start a movie that you were previously watching and the entire screen is covered while asking to continue or not.  There are plenty of places where LinuxMCE blocks whatever on-screen media is playing, some make perfect sense while others do not.  While I agree that trying to copy MythTV or any of the other eye-candy UIs is not the way LinuxMCE should go, I do think there are a few areas where using at least the bulk of the screen makes sense.  Possibly scaling the media to a PIP type box. 

Just to be clear, I like the way LinuxMCE works.  I still only use it for media, no HA stuff yet, and I'm still using LinuxMCe with no plans to switch.  I'm also happy to hear you are working on re-writing the orbiter. 

Users / Getting 5.1 surround sound?
« on: April 16, 2010, 12:47:41 am »
I may be getting a bit off topic with this one, but I want a seamless LinuxMCE solution so I'm posting here.  :)

I believe I've found the TV I want (thanks for the suggestions in my other thread on TV suggestions), but it does not support surround sound in any way.  My intent is to use an ION based nettop as my MD, most of which only support surround sound via HDMI.  However, I want to keep the cost as low as possible and I do not want a big bulky receiver. 

One option is to buy a USB sound card and "high end" PC speakers like the Logitech Z5500 kit which pretty maxes out my budget.  Another option is to go with something like the Sony htss360 Blue Ray ready HTIB which gives me a slim receiver I have to look at and may or may not be controllable via LinuxMCE.  Even if I have to keep a second remote handy, there will not be any IR blasting in this setup.

I guess I'm just asking for suggestions on the least obtrusive and cheapest way to get 5.1 surround sound out of something like an Aspire Revo.

Users / Re: User interface is not very good looking
« on: April 15, 2010, 07:36:17 pm »
I tend to agree with the OP - the GUI could use some work and changing it requires a decent investment in time to learn it.  Well, a re-skin isn't so bad (just changing the graphics for buttons and such), but changing the layout isn't as easy.  I guess it's one of those things you sorta get used to after a while, then you see screenshots of other products and remember..  I made a go at making it look better, but quickly realized I just didn't have the time and graphic design skills to make a significant improvement so I gave up.  A quick comparison between between the LinuxMCE video screen and, for example, the MythTV video screen really shows how LMCE could use improvements.

I'm sure Thom could explain the technical details why new gui design with the existing system is so cumbersome, but for now just accept it the way it is.  This is the first time I've heard Thom is planning to change the orbiter, this is great news.  Just for clarification for toniperoni, the gui you see is the "on screen orbiter" in LinuxMCE terms.  Thom, and the other devs, have done great work in the past and I'm confident that a rewrite of the orbiter will lead to all kinds of improvements including what you see on screen.

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