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Hi Andy,
In previous posts regarding Athena UI you have discussed user configurable skins using html editors etc. Can separate skins be used to run on different devices? I am specifically interested in designing a UI for tv osd control which mimics current UI2 but in a vertical form. This would be separate from the UI used on tablets and or phones.

I am wanting to retain on screen UI on many of my tvs and am interested in the best approach with Athena to do this. This seemed the better place to pose this, but please move as required.

Thanks
Garath

Hi Garath,

Yes you are very much on the right track with your thinking. What you've described is pretty much exactly in line with how multiple devices will be handled. The current Athena stack does not support this yet though. We are working on an updated version that will enable unlimited multiple skins to be supported so that any kind of device/display can be supported.

Our current Athena UI skin is a responsive design (up to a point) and we are close to having the skin work with both phone, tablet and desktop display sizes. However there are still changes required in the underlying libraries so that multiple skins can be supported simultaneously.

If you regularly update your Dianemo X86 installation you will see new Orbiter UI package updates get installed - these are revs of the Orbiter libraries and the skin to support the above. So these changes area already being rolled out. We also have a new iOS App in final testing that supports both iPhone & iPad devices (the current App does not support iPhones).

Best

Andy

47
Andrew,

I would appreciate feedback of what packages were problematic, and how you overcome the issues, so that we can utilize that information for LinuxMCE's move as well.

Thanks.

Sure will do Posde. I'll pull those details together for you and post them in a new thread in the Developers section over the weekend.

Update; I have not done this yet as we are still not clear of problems; But you can see a brief list of the problem packages here - http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=14058.msg101570#msg101570

Andy

48
Just a quick update; We're making progress thanks to all of you that have volunteered so far. We still have some issues with Mythweb, diskless images though that we are still working through.

If you've already volunteered and have not yet been asked to run a test yet, please be patient. We are not running tests in parallel as we want to apply what we've previously learnt/fixed to the next test. So be patient please as testing will continue over the weekend for sure.

We're also still looking for volunteers to test the update - so please get in touch if you'd like to volunteer.

All the best

Andy


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Dianemo Rpi2 is new code it is not based on LinuxMCE and only has minor similarities at the code level to Dianemo X86 (mostly the UI layer which will be shared by Dianemo X86 but is not derived from LinuxMCE in any way). Dianemo Rpi2 code is not created using DCEGen either.

Dianemo X86 of course still uses DCEGen as it always has but that is not Dianemo-Rpi2.

All the best

Andy

50
Hi all,

We are looking for some intrepid existing Dianemo X86 users to help us test the Upgrade/Update process from Dianemo X86 12.04LTS. The testing will be around the update process itself - we have working systems that have been updated manually. Your testing will be focused on helping us debug the final issues in the installer. Zoneminder currently does not get automatically installed and will need some manual intervention. Also initially we will not be installing an updated motion_wrapper - but we do intend to have an update shortly for that.

This process still has some issues (which is why we need your involvement) and there will be bumps in the road. Don't expect a smooth ride! So please only volunteer if you are happy to loose access to your system for a period of time, hopefully only a few hours! Wrecking your system completely is pretty unlikely (we haven't managed that internally yet!) but I would backup your current config in Web Admin and download it to another system, and you might want to do an image backup of your main drive as a precaution too.

We will be on hand via Remote Assistance for anyone who volunteers, so that we can do some forensics on any failures or issues you experience and we will fix those for you as they occur.

So please PM me here if you are interested in helping out and i will get back to you with the information you need and the procedure we will need you to follow.

Thanks in advance to anyone who volunteers - we appreciate it greatly.

All the best


Andy

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Hi Andrew,

No, I am not confusing myself at all.  You specifically indicated that prices would be increasing once you released your 1404 update in May.  Your post was just 2 days from May and I was seeking clarification as to 'when' in May you would be releasing your update and, therefor, increasing your price.  A quote from your OP here:
Thank you for the clarification!  Much appreciated, and all the best to you as well Andrew.

Jason

Jason - I expect our Dianemo X86 update to Ubuntu 14.04LTS to be available in the next few days for existing users at zero cost. When we release the update we will also release a new installer that will install Dianemo X86 for Ubuntu 14.04LTS on new systems, new licenses will ship with this going forwards. But as ever with software testing the update may get held back if any of our testers experience a last minute issues.

There will be a price increase for new X86 licenses after we ship the update - what that increase will be I don't know at this time. As soon as I do I will post that information here, which is what I said in my original post too.

All the best

Andy

52
Hi Andy,
I just purchased an Rpi2 preview licence but also currently run an x86 system that I've run from early Dianemo 710 times. Can you provide any update as to the development path / life of x86 platform and how Rpi is likely to diverge from it. I am particularly interested in the media server and control changes as the Dianemo approach has changed a lot in this area over the years to be focussed more on control over separate hardware devices (PVR, STBS etc,) rather than a server/client software based approach.

Thanks again
Garath

Hi Garath,

Dianemo X86 is under active development and there is really no change there at all. This week we will release our update to Ubuntu 14.04LTS for Dianemo X86 and that will incorporate a number of changes 'under the hood' but the biggest change will be our support for the Zoneminder IP security Camera server. We will run Zoneminder in parallel with Kmotion for some time but our future direction and efforts will be directed towards Zoneminder as it provides a much better environment for RTSP cameras, and can support more cameras with less load on the system. While its true to say we have not been updating our support for MythTV backend we do still support it in Dianemo (although it is not being actively developed).

We have also completely transitioned our audio side over to LMS (even when using MD's) and we use LMS's playlists, plugins and playlists etc. So that is an example of us actually developing and deepening our support for a media server.

We hope to develop Dianemo-Rpi2 into a very flexible, low energy, distributed system that will make customisation and development of add-ons much more accessible. Dianemo-Rpi2 will also be very compact in its hardware form factor obviously and that will open it up to applications that cannot be easily addressed by X86 hardware. Dianemo-Rpi2 will also support the Athena UI and will support many of the server functionalities supported in Dianemo X86 ie Zoneminder, LMS etc but they are likely to be installed on separate Rpi2's so that the load is not sitting on a single CPU.

I hope that provides a flavour of where both systems are going in the medium term at least.

All the best

Andy

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Hi Jason,

As ever you seem to always take an aggressive stance whenever you post something relating to Dianemo. You seem to have an inherent dislike for anything we do or say. All I will say is that we've been involved with LinuxMCE as individuals, and as a company since the very moment this forum was created.

I believe we have demonstrated to everyone over the years here that we are honest and honourable, and we do what we say. We're not perfect of course, but I believe people know that we always strive to do the right 'thing' - you can look through the forums and see that I believe.

I have tried to respond to your comments below;

Your wrote;
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Planning phase of the license but pay us now...   Right.  I've heard that before.  Can you elaborate on which (exactly) portions of your release will be GPL and what capabilities the 'base' Dianemo-Rpi2 includes?  This is very ambiguous and leaves room for you to decide, after you have solicited monies from people, which portions you may release as GPL and which not.  Since the majority of the base of the Dianemo system is GPL (as LinuxMCE is) I'm not sure what the difference is and when/if you intend to provide source for those GPL portions.

Dianemo-Rpi2 Base is the whole system and source code will be provided under the GPL.

You wrote;
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Do 'developers' get access to source code that non-'developers' would not have access to?

If you subscribe to our proposed Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Subscription site then yes you will get access to source code that is not available to non-subscribers. But that source code will only be for the Plugin extensions we provide as part of the subscription. The plugins we provide to subscribers (the way to extend the base system with custom code) will likely be GPL too - we are still considering this. But in any case source code will be provided to subscribers for our Plugins.

You wrote;
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I'm sorry.  Did I just read that correctly.  People will have to pay for support through this 'free' forum?  WTF?  I do not agree with this myself.  Andrew do you intend to sponsor the forums and pay for the running of the forum to help with your 'paid' support that you will provide?

The Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Forum will be hosted on our servers and not here. Yes developers who want to participate in our Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer forum will need to subscribe. As we will not be charging for a license to use Dianemo-Rpi2 Base this is how we will generate revenue from Dianemo-Rpi2. Developers will get access to our direct support and participation, our Plugin library and help/support with any Plugin code they are developing themselves.

We think this arrangement will work well for all concerned. Anyone will be able to download Dianemo-Rpi2 base and install it for free - and get a working system from it too. These people will be the majority of the user base, ordinary users who just want to get a basic system working. However if any of those ordinary users wish to dig a little deeper into Dianemo-Rpi2 then they can subscribe to our Forum and get access to all its resources - for about $96 USD per year. So an ordinary user might subscribe for a year simply while they were getting their system in shape. They can cancel their subscription after a year, and never pay us another cent, and they can keep and use any Plugins they downloaded from our library too. So in that scenario their system has cost them just $96.

Alternatively that ordinary user could contact any of the 3rd part Developers who will be subscribers to our Forum and have them customise their Dianemo-Rpi2 system for them - that would be an arrangement between them and we would not be involved in anyway.

Your wrote;
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I really love what you're doing (from a commercial standpoint).  But to do it on the back of OSS and a free support forum appears shady to me.

I can't see anything shady at all. We are still evolving our plans, but anyone reading this or that has had any dealings with us, or me, will know we are in no way 'shady'. As I said above the Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Forum will be hosted on our servers and not here. Anyone who purchases a Dianemo-Rpi2 Preview license currently will get a perpetual membership (at zero cost) to our Dianemo-Rpi2 Developer Forum when it goes live. This is what their payment is really for as Dianemo-Rpi2 Base will be free and available to anyone.

Dianemo X86 will be licensed as it is now (ie a one time license fee) and support will continue to be located here for software only customers as now, as there will continue to be a considerable commonality of code between Dianemo X86 & LinuxMCE.

Andy



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Hi Andy,

Since it is May already (when you're making this post) and you're asking for money for a specific product....  Do you have a more specific date for the end of your 'sale'?

Thanks,

J.

Your confusing yourself again. This thread is about our imminent update for Dianemo X86 that takes it to Ubuntu 14.04LTS, from its current Ubuntu 12.04LTS base. We have numerous systems in final testing both in the field and in our testing lab too.

We expect to release our Ubuntu 14.04LTS updater for existing customers, and our installer for new customers late next week.

All the best

Andy



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If you are thinking of purchasing a Dianemo X86 License then you might want to look at our Dianemo X86 Basic license that is currently available for only $249 USD.

See here for details; http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=8880.msg100221#msg100221

Once the Ubuntu 14.04LTS Update ships Dianemo Basic can be updated to 14.04LTS for FREE.

Dianemo X86 licenses will undergo a price increase when we launch support for Ubuntu 14.04LTS. We've released the Updater but we have some components like ZM integration with Dianemo events & viwing ZM cameras in Athena UI that are still not complete. Therefore the price increase will not happen until those are complete.

Best


Andy

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Here is a very brief update on our testing of Ubuntu 14.04LTS installs, and updates from 12.04LTS, for Dianemo X86;

Progress on testing updates is progressing well, with very few issues now remaining. So far we completed 45 updates from Dianemo on 12.04LTS and the last 7-8 have been clean & successful.

Clean installs of Dianemo on Ubuntu 14.04LTS are also reaching the end of pre-release testing. So far we have completed 27 clean installs and the last 5 have been successful.

We also have several Dianemo X86 systems that have been running continuously on 14.04LTS now for about 10 days without any major issues

We expect all test series to continue into next week. If no major issue appear we will likely release the new Dianemo X86 installer and update scripts by Fri next week.

Best

Andy

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As with Kmotion, we have taken the approach with Zoneminder, that basic configuration etc will be supported as it is now directly inside Web Admin. But detailed configuration and setup, fine tuning and advanced features of Zoneminder are best handled in its native configuration pages. Therefore we will provide access to Zoneminders own configuration Web UI from inside Dianemo's Web Admin.

Best

Andy

58
Hi all,

Below I have described how easy it is to add Radio Station Favourites (ie Presets) to Dianemo's Athena UI. Add as many as you like, complete with the stations official icon, and in Athena these changes are available in your Orbiters immediately without needing a Regen or a Reload too.

Adding Radio Station Favourites to your Dianemo system;

From Web Admin use the menus to select the following; Advanced->Configuration->Slim Server

You will now see the Logitech Media Server (LMS) main configuration page. Simply follow the steps below to add as many Radio Stations Favourites to the Athena Radio screen as you like. These Radio Favourites will appear in any Room or Entertainment Area that has audio capability (you will see a Radio icon in the Orbiters Icon bar);

- Firstly click on the triangle next to 'My Radio'
- Next use the icons that displayed beneath the triangle to find the station you want to add as a favourite
- Tip - 'World' is useful for international stations
- Keep drilling down until you find the station you are looking for, then hover you mouse pointer over its name. You will see some icons appear to the right of the station name, when you hover over it - click the 'Heart' icon to make that station a Favourite (you will see a '-' will appear on the icon after you click it to indicate that if you click on it a second time it will be removed from your Favourites)
- Now click on the triangle next to 'Favourites' and you should see all your currently saved Favourites (*Note to remove a Favourite you need to find it again under 'My Radio' as described above*).

Now if you go back to any Orbiter and choose a Room with audio capability you will see the Radio icon in the top bar. Click on Radio in the top bar and you will see your Favourites listed as station icons with names. Select any Station Icon and it will play in the Room you currently have selected in your Orbiter - you will also see information about the current show being broadcast, including the currently playing track and DJ etc (this information is dependent on the station selected - not all stations provide this information), and there will be audio volume controls displayed at the bottom of the screen in the controls bar.

You can switch rooms without interrupting the music playback, and can start streams playing in other rooms or entertainment areas too.

Enjoy!

All the best

Andy

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Marketplace / Update Available - Insteon
« on: April 30, 2015, 02:27:45 pm »
We now support the Insteon PLM-2413U and any devices it supports in Dianemo - a much requested update. If you have an existing set of devices added to your PLM-2413U then they will be detected and automatically imported into the Dianemo device tree as child devices of the PLM. The device template is #1932.

Insteon devices are fully compatible with the new Athena Orbiter and UI.

Please run the updater script as usual to update your system.

All the best

Andy

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Marketplace / Dianemo-Rpi2 will be supported on Ubuntu 14.04LTS
« on: April 30, 2015, 12:38:57 pm »
Dianemo-Rpi2 for Ubuntu 14.04LTS
A new Era in Smart Home Technology


Many of you have asked about Ubuntu support for Dianemo-Rpi2 recently. I can now confirm that Dianemo-Rpi2 will be available on Ubuntu 14.04LTS.

All the best

Andy

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