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Installation issues / Re: Installing and using the nvidia drivers
« on: May 10, 2007, 09:11:54 pm »
I used the envy script to install them - you can find it here

I had to run it before and after the LMCE install.  I also had to hack some of the scripts because my GeForce 6500 wasn't seen correctly in the system.

There is a long discussion under "why only vesa" about drivers install and what everyone has used to make it work.



I have the Gyration GO 2.4 Wireless Cordless Optical Air Mouse, which looks like the one in the video (thus my assumption is that is would act the same as well :-)


Installation issues / Re: resetting the installation
« on: May 06, 2007, 08:30:06 am »
I've not tried this before but saw in another post -

AVWizardDone = 0   to /etc/pluto.conf

should force the avwizard to start the next time you run it.



Heh, I had some problems with it taking over the wifi on my box as well.  I found a fairly inexpensive wireless bridge for about $40 that allows me to join a switch to the network.  I don't recall if it supported WPA or not (i have too many wifi that only support WEP in the house to use it), but it turned out to be a much easier solution than running cat5 to my living room. is the one I got, I'm sure there are plenty of other choices out there, but I've been very happy with it.



Users / UI2 control - can't set absolute position with gyro mouse
« on: May 06, 2007, 04:43:26 am »
I read in the wiki

When media is playing, you can use the normal keys on the i/r remote to control the media playback and volume. Or press F6 or the 'media' button on the gyro remote, and then move left and right to adjust playback speed, or move up and down to skip through chapters/tracks/channels/songs depending on the type of media. With the left and right movement you have both absolute and relative. Absolute means keep the button held down while you move left and right. This is quite useful with the gyro remote. Press the left button, and if you move your hand all the way to the left you are at the beginning of your media, all the way to the right and you are at the end. Or, tap and release the button, then when you move left and right you are in relative, or jog shuttle mode. Move slowly to the right for slow motion forward, further to the right for 400x forward, back to the left to rewind, and so on.

However, click and holding the left most "media" button makes the cursor jump around and not do much.  Click and release that button brings up the media control.  click and hold the left mouse button moves the shuttle/jog control back and forth, click and release does the same thing. 

I also can't seem to play/pause the video from the gyro mouse, seems that these are both pretty basic functions, so I'm guessing that I'm reading something wrong and all we have is a case of PEBKAC (or in this case.. PEBMAC) :-)



Installation issues / Re: nforce
« on: May 06, 2007, 03:51:06 am »
And if 6.10 doesn't see everything, you can look up one of the 7.04 threads and use it, or wait until the feisty installer comes out.  I know that 6.10 doesn't see my on board nic or audio - I played around with 7.04 and it worked nicely but i never got LMCE to install cleanly on it, so I put a nic and sound card in and went with 6.10.



Installation issues / Re: Why only vesa?
« on: May 06, 2007, 03:48:34 am »
I guess the first time you laucned the lshwd -id it stated that it would use driver NV for your "VGA compatible card" as you can read in my walkthrough i had same issue, and now it's trying to use the VESA driver since it can not find the NVIDIA drivers to use,

The issue turned that lshwd -id wasn't picking the right diver for this card because it always came back as unknown.  I fixed this by tracing down where in the code it was selecting the driver and hacked a few lines in /usr/pluto/bin/ to read

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   local VideoDriver=$(lshwd | grep ' VGA ' | head -1 | sed 's/^.*(\([^()]*\)).*$/\1/')
        case "$VideoDriver" in
                nv|vesa) PackageIsInstalled nvidia-glx && VideoDriver="nvidia" ;;
                radeon|ati) PackageIsInstalled fglrx-driver && VideoDriver="fglrx" ;;
                "") VideoDriver="nvidia" ;; # just-in-case default

Another issue was trying to install while using the PCI-E card, I had to do a fresh install of 6.10 and install LMCE, hack the script, reinstall the drivers (only worked when installed with Envy), switch the system over to the 6500 and manually edit my xorg.conf file (for some reason the nvidia-settings didn't configure the 6500, so I had to look up what the pci-e slot was and change it there).

Lots of hassle, I'd like to see the next revision be a little smarter and check for already installed video drivers instead of forcing it's own on the system.

HTH someone else!


Installation issues / Re: Installation file for Ubuntu 7.04?
« on: May 05, 2007, 02:31:01 am »
Will there be an installation file for 64 bit processors as well?

Since the packages would have to be ported from the 32bit to the 64bit platform, I'm guessing it will be a long time before we see support for 64bit kernels.  I'm hoping the next rev will play better with existing apps, i can live using the 32bit version if it doesn't try to take over the network in my house :-)


Installation issues / after "lmce on boot" install, brings up tty1
« on: April 25, 2007, 12:00:47 am »
I did an clean install of ubuntu, installed the nvidia drivers, and finally got through a clean install on this box.  Since this generic GeForce 6500 doesn't work with the vesa drivers, I selected the option to boot into lmce instead of Ubuntu. 

On reboot, it goes through it's normal screen boot up, but where I would expect to see the LMCE startup, it drops to text and shows some processes starting up.  the page clears and says
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Starting up ...
Loading, please wait...
kinit: name_to_devt(/dev/disk/by-uuid/long_series_of_numbers_I'm_not_typing) = sda (8,5)
kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/same_series_above
kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...

Ubuntu 7.04 dcerouter tty1
dcerouter login:

Now - there were no errors in the startup log and I was able to startx once from the command line and launch LMCE from the start menu - however it locked the computer up and on reboot I now get an error trying to launch

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(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:13:0) found
(EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)

The kernel with 6.10 doesn't see my network card or sound card however, the one with 7.04 works without a problem, I guess unless there is something to try, next round will be to fire up 6.10 and manually compile the alsa beta drivers by hand and put a PCI nic in. 


Developers / Re: Voice control suggestions
« on: April 24, 2007, 02:54:07 am »
I can confirm that MH does support voice control - tho I never did it working in linux, setting it up in windows is fairly trivial.  I've never done any media control with MH, it's more to control the lights and watch the security system than to play movies and such.

One suggestion I can make - be sure to put a keyword control in to your system - something you use to put to sleep the voice control and to wake it up again unless you want it doing the things it thinks it hears off the tv or movie your watching :-)


Installation issues / Re: Ubuntu 7.04 Due Next Month
« on: April 23, 2007, 02:48:53 am »
I think this is what you're looking for...

I've not gotten a successful install on this box regardless of 6.10 or 7.04 but clearly others have.


Installation issues / Re: Why only vesa?
« on: April 19, 2007, 10:57:55 am »
I've got the same problem, hacking the Cards file didn't help.  I have a very generic GeForce 6500 256 that lshwd doesn't see as a valid card.  I've already manually installed the drivers before hand (with Envy) , edited the xorg.conf.pluto file but it kills it every time I edit it.  AVWizardDone = 1 is set in pluto.conf

Is there a way to hack the $%T$@$@SSS#@ Xconfigure script to force it to the nvidia driver? or not make changes to the .conf file (as I'm writing this, I am trying it out with exit; in the Xconfigure script  seems to be working so far, but it would be nice if it would play just a little bit nicer with unknown cards :-)

edit:after killing off the script to keep it from editing the xorg.conf.pluto file I get the following errors...
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1       04/19/07 04:35:46       /usr/pluto/bin/ (server)      Starting X server (client: /usr/bin/xfwm4; parms: --conpositor=off)
1       04/19/07 04:35:47       /usr/pluto/bin/ (server)      X server: backround; AlphaBlending: 1
1       04/19/07 04:35:48       Xconfigure (server)     Display Driver: nvidia
1       04/19/07 04:35:50       /usr/pluto/bin/ (server)      Starting X server (client: /usr/bin/xfwm4; parms: --conpositor=off)
1       04/19/07 04:35:51       /usr/pluto/bin/ (server)      X server: backround; AlphaBlending: 1
3       04/19/07 04:35:52       LaunchOrbiter (server)  xfwm4 failed to start
1       04/19/07 04:35:53       Xconfigure (server)     Display Driver: nvidia
1       04/19/07 04:35:56       /usr/pluto/bin/ (server)      Starting X server (client: /usr/bin/xfwm4; parms: --conpositor=off)
1       04/19/07 04:35:57       /usr/pluto/bin/ (server)      X server: backround; AlphaBlending: 1
3       04/19/07 04:35:58       19 (spawning-device)    Device died... count=33/50 dev=19
1       04/19/07 04:36:08       19 (spawning-device)    Starting... 34
1       04/19/07 04:36:08       19 (spawning-device)    Found ./

Here is the output from lshwd -id
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dcerouter_13640:~# lshwd -id
00:00.0 10de:03ea:1849:03ea RAM memory: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 Memory Controller (unknown)
00:01.0 10de:03e0:1849:03e0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 LPC Bridge (unknown)
00:01.1 10de:03eb:1849:03eb SMBus: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 SMBus (unknown)
00:01.2 10de:03f5:1849:03eb RAM memory: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 Memory Controller (unknown)
00:02.0 10de:03f1:1849:03f1 USB Controller|OHCI: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 USB Controller (unknown)
00:02.1 10de:03f2:1849:03f2 USB Controller|EHCI: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 USB Controller (unknown)
00:04.0 10de:03f3:0000:0000 PCI bridge|Subtractive decode:  (unknown)
00:05.0 10de:03f0:1849:0862 Non-VGA unclassified device: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 High Definition Audio (unknown)
00:06.0 10de:03ec:1849:03ec IDE interface: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 IDE (amd74xx)
00:07.0 10de:03ef:1849:03ef Bridge: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 Ethernet (unknown)
00:08.0 10de:03f6:1849:03f6 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation|MCP61 SATA Controller (sata_nv)
00:09.0 10de:03e8:0000:0000 PCI bridge:  (unknown)
00:0b.0 10de:03e9:0000:0000 PCI bridge:  (unknown)
00:0c.0 10de:03e9:0000:0000 PCI bridge:  (unknown)
00:0d.0 10de:03d1:1849:03d1 VGA compatible controller:  (vesa)
00:18.0 1022:1100:0000:0000 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices|K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration (unknown)
00:18.1 1022:1101:0000:0000 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices|K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map (unknown)
00:18.2 1022:1102:0000:0000 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices|K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller (unknown)
00:18.3 1022:1103:0000:0000 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices|K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control (amd64-agp)
01:08.0 10ec:8139:10bd:0320 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor|EP-320X-R (8139too)
02:00.0 10de:0160:0000:0000 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corp.|Unknown (generic) (vesa)
---:--- 0000:0000:0000:0000 Mouse: Generic PS/2 Wheel Mouse [/dev/psaux] (msintellips/2)

Installation issues / Re: Debian 4.0 base - compatible?
« on: April 17, 2007, 09:34:50 pm »
I like to run as root too, maybe it's the old HP-UX admin in me :-)  To do this, sudo su - , use passwd to give root a password.  Then go into the login settings under the admin menu and give root permission to login to the desktop.

I've tried (and had to admin) many distros in the past (RH, Fedora, SuSE, Slack, etc) with none of them really meeting all of my needs.  I ran across ubuntu several distros ago and found that it met most of my needs, most of the time. 

With the challenges getting this to run on ubuntu, I can only see you're in for a fight getting it to work on a different distro - this isn't to the point where it's a well behaved app. 


Installation issues / Re: Won't work on Ubuntu Feisty
« on: April 17, 2007, 09:21:53 pm »
Zargoni, congrats on getting this working!  Maybe for the rest of us that don't dabble under the hood as much, could you give a detailed step by step of what you've done?  I'm not clear on what steps you took from start to finish.


Installation issues / Re: Help under Ubuntu 6.10
« on: April 17, 2007, 09:08:42 pm »
I've not seen these issues with the latest iso posted, there were some problems with the first one.  Can I suggest that you download the iso from the links and burn it again? 


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