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Users / Keyboard commands
« on: June 16, 2012, 02:44:50 am »
OK, this seems like a pretty stupid question, but I can't find any documentation on the wiki for what keys do what :-[. I, err, I can't figure out how to get back to the menu from a DVD... There must be some docs somewhere, but I can't find them; can anyone link me to it please?  :-[

Hah, I don't have a DVI out either. This is an old IBM ThinkCentre with onboard graphics; the only output I have is the VGA. I may look into an adapter later, but it seems to be running OK at 1360x768 so I may just leave it for now. One of my goals for this project is seeing just how little I can get this set up for, and the difference between 1360x768 and 1920x1080 isn't great enough to make it a priority upgrade.

Yeah, it looks like that was the problem. Kubuntu is reporting VGA1 is 1360x768@60Hz. I guess if I want real 1080, I'll need to wait until I can get a machine with an HDMI output. I'm a little surprised, as I thought LG were supposed to be a fairly good brand.

This is my doing. I am guessing you are not using HDMI for video... or we just cannot read the EDID from the specific display.
No, I'm using VGA, I don't have an HDMI out.
If you just press the corresponding number to your output (probably 3) at the FIRST screen which displays funky, it will fix itself. I am working to fix it. If you have an xorg.conf and it presents any issues at screen three (or what should be screen three) sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf     and reboot.
I'm afraid that didn't help; the number keys don't seem to do anything at all in fact. (The first screen is the one with the 15s countdown, is that correct?) Removing xorg.conf and rebooting didn't seem to make any difference either.
I am working to get around this. What is happening, is that it is putting out output on everything, but only trying to read EDID information from the HDMI connection. If there is no EDID data, it blows up to ginormous size at what I believe is 640x480 on screens 1 and 2.
That doesn't sound quite right; it's a little bigger than it should be, but only the very right-most edge is actually off the screen, whereas 640px is less than a third of the 1920 it should be. Assuming I'm interpreting you correctly and you mean I would be getting the leftmost 640 of the 1920 screen, anyway.

Oh, and just checking, it is OK to rerun the AV wizard for this, right? Like, by pressing shift at boot time? That won't affect it as opposed to running it at first boot?
Start by making sure your graphic card resolution on your PC or laptop can do 1920x1080.
I'm not really sure how to do that, I've just been assuming that if it can't handle it it'll just fail to output anything. If you know another way to test it I'd like to hear it, so I can either rule out or confirm that it's a hardware problem.

No, the web install script on top of Kubuntu 10.04.

Fonts are fine, but they were never a problem in 10.04; previously it died before reaching anything graphical. Since 10.04 is working fairly well for me I haven't tried 8.10 again. Any suggestions on how I should edit my first post to reflect this?

RESOLVED: It turns out my TV doesn't actually support 1920x1080 on the VGA port; I enabled the 1360x768 it actually takes as documented in Custom Display Resolutions, and it seems to be working fine so far.

So far, I've installed Kubuntu 10.04, downloaded and run the MCE installer script, and rebooted. Now I'm having issues with the AV wizard. When I select VGA 1080p 60Hz (which my TV is), the display appears too far to the right, slightly off the edge of the screen. I noticed in the AV wizard wiki page that 1080i/p has issues with some nVidia cards, but I'm not sure if that's my problem or not, since it's been crossed out, and I'm using an intel chipset anyway.

Does anyone better versed in this than me have an opinion re: Is this a general problem with 1080p, or is it something I can fix? I checked the forums but couldn't find any threads that look related. (I admittedly went off thread titles rather than opening every "Problemz plz hlp!!!" thread to see if it applied)

EDIT: I forgot to mention, I've set it to 720p which is working fine for now.

It looks like it was a bad burn; I burned the same image from my desktop instead of my laptop and it worked just fine, Kubuntu installed nicely and I'm just running the net install script now. Here's hoping it goes a bit smoother from here...

OK, at this point I think the universe just plain doesn't want me installing this. I try to install Kubuntu 10.04, and it fails to mount the filesystem. Searching the net it seems like it's a fairly common problem, and I couldn't find an authoritative solution, lots of people found different answers that didn't always work. Seems to be an issue with the disc/drive, so maybe if I can scrounge up a flash drive and install from that it might help. Of course, if anyone here has any ideas I'd love to hear them too; I'm basically going to try everything I can find, one by one until I hit on one that works.

EDIT: Yeah, I saw that thread, I actually had the same problem on my FreeBSD desktop and used that exact fix. In a pre-install environment, however, I can't modify it on the target machine as it doesn't have it's own filesystem at this point. The only way I can think of to implement it is to extract the ISO, modify it's xorg.conf, and rebuild it with the modified file. I may have to do this if I can't get Kubuntu to play nice though.

...provided, that is, you are prepared to take some time assisting them with the testing of it.
I certainly don't mind running a few tests, as long as I don't need too much understanding of Linux; it's a little different that what I'm used to.
Anyway, I'd say have another go with the old monitor but perhaps jump in after the Kubuntu install and prior to running the "install linux mce" script and try to sort out those font issues using the wiki and forum posts and get the TV working with Kubuntu. Then run the install script.
That sounds like a plan, if you think 10.04 might be a better choice. I was wary because it's described as "unsupported". If all else fails, I see that Kubuntu has a text-based installer. That sounds much more useful than a GUI.

It looks to me (checking out other similar posts on kubuntu forums) as if this is related to newer hardware and old distrubtion (8.10). Are you hooked up to a newish high-def monitor / TV by any chance?
Well I've had it a few years now, but 1080p probably counts as newish, right?
Couldn't find a solution on the web, most people seemed to use an older monitor to do the install and then hack the DPI settings afterwards. Is that an option for you?
I can certainly do that, I have an old 1024x768 I used to test the hardware beforehand. I thought it might be smoother to install in the final config rather than change it post-install. Looks like I was wrong there!
Otherwise, have you thought of trying 10.04 if your hardware is newer? It's nice ;-)
Well, it's a newish TV, but the box itself is pretty old, so I dunno. And isn't 10.04 still pre-alpha? I think I'd rather wait until it goes beta, really.
Sorry I can't be of more help...
It's cool, I can use another monitor like you said, was just checking if there was a way to fix it directly.

EDIT: Oh, this is just too much! It's pretty funny, actually. Using a monitor this time, and now the text is enormous, and... only showing in the title bar at the top, apparently? The window contents is all grey. I don't suppose there's a decent text-mode installer instead of this GUI crap, huh? That would be too convenient...

I hadn't seen that post specifically, but the solution there has the same problem as the one in the wiki; it relies on editing a config file, while I haven't even got the system installed yet. I don't see how I can use that solution short of changing the xorg.conf in the ISO and burning another disc. I know DVDs are cheap, but I'd still rather not waste one if there's another way to force DPI. Not to mention I'm not entirely sure where in the image the appropriate file might be.

Hi, I'm trying to install LMCE, but when it reaches the graphical installer, the text is way too small to read. After looking around, it looks like I'm having the problem described here: Microscopic fonts in KDE, but I can't see how to apply the fix to my situation, as the filesystem hasn't yet been installed. Is there a way to force the display dpi before the installer runs?

EDIT: I forgot to mention what version I'm trying to install! It's 8.10. Is there anything else I should mention that I forgot?

Users / Re: Network setup?
« on: June 08, 2012, 08:04:42 pm »
Ah, I wasn't very clear there was I? I meant in terms of performance, say if one NIC is faster than the other, would that be better on the internal network? A gigabit interface isn't terribly relevant if all it's connected to is a 8Mpbs uplink, so I would have thought the better card (if I can figure out which one is better) should be the internal interface. I'm not terribly knowledgeable about network layout though, previously I just plugged everything into a router, so I thought I'd better ask.

Users / Re: Network setup?
« on: June 08, 2012, 07:05:57 pm »
Ethernet. Core with 2 nics. Stick with what works. Don't reinvent the wheel (unless you can code, in an amazingly brilliant fashion, and can contribute it to the project, that is). If buying new hardware, make sure it's compatible (don't know,... ask). If you have existing hardware, try it and/or ask... Someone will help you, or die trying.
Heh, my coding is somewhat less than amazingly brilliant; if the distro doesn't contain USB modem drivers, I'm certainly not going to try to write them myself.

Does it matter which NIC connects to the internal and which connects to the external networks?

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