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for now the first gen atom/ions make the best md's inmho

To buy a 3 year old CPU is not a very good idea imho
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=11513.0

Just my two cents

-Olivier

The Atom 330 is a first-gen Atom: not recommended.

Oak Trail is the best choice now: Atom Z670 + GMA600 + 3W TDP + multi-OS support
http://www.netbooknews.com/23473/a-sample-of-upcoming-oak-trail-tablets-arriving-in-may-and-beyond/

The WeTab (Pine Trail) is also a good choice at 280 euros (or even less on german eBay)
http://www.otto.de/Tablet-PC-WeTab-16GB-Rev-20/shop-de_dpip_74356479-0/?expId=3001&ArticleRef=74356479-0-3001&imageToDisplay=3840402.jpg&FromSearch=true&fh_search=wetab

WeTab's website: http://wetab.mobi/en/

-Olivier

i tought that intel will be good to invest.

yep, the new Oak Trail tablets will be great  
http://newsroom.intel.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/1976-11-4490/Oak_Trail_Atom_Processor_Factsheet.pdf

http://www.itproportal.com/2011/04/21/exclusive-lenovo-ideapad-s1-tablet-photos/

-Olivier

* the Viewsonic Viewpad is not MeeGo-compatible atm (touchscreen issue)

*  "should we wait" is always a difficult question  
Cedar is a Q4 CPU (or SoC to be precise) , Oak is a Q2 CPU and Pine is available now.

* the ExoPC Slate (Pine) is MeeGo-compatible
http://www.exopc.com/en/exopc-slate.php
http://www.exopc.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=107&sid=38e923d28050f080e291d927487fb67f

but the MeeGo Tablet UX is pre-alpha
http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/meego-develop

Q2 will be very interesting: some nice Atom Oak Trail tablets, more competition and better prices.  

-Olivier

The WeTab is a good choice at 250 euros  
(Atom Pine trail, MeeGo-compatible)

http://www.otto.de/Tablet-PC-WeTab-16GB-Rev-20/shop-de_dpip_74356479-0/?expId=3001&ArticleRef=74356479-0-3001&imageToDisplay=3840402.jpg&FromSearch=true&fh_search=wetab

-Olivier

244 EUR is the price for the Product Development Kit version; the SDK version, a simple dev board like the Panda, will be cheaper:

Prices announced in February:
PDK version: 300 $
SDK version: 200 $

more info here:
http://www.linaro.org/linaro-blog/2011/02/15/snowball-new-cortex-a9-community-board-from-st-ericsson/

-Olivier

"With its dual-core processor, combined with support for 3D graphics, HD video and HDMI output, Snowball is a multimedia powerhouse."
http://www.stericsson.com/press_releases/Igloo_Snowball.jsp

full specs in the datasheet (pdf)
http://www.igloocommunity.org/Snowball_Datasheet.pdf

-Olivier

Well they are flooded with orders at the moment and apparently production has been hit badly by the disaster in Japan.

Andrew

Snowball will be an interesting alternative.  
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Snowball

-Olivier

[Million Dollar Development Fund :]

For a MeeGo Netbook Orbiter: the new Intel AppUp developer program:  

Million Dollar Development Fund :

What does the fund provide?
The Intel AppUp developer program Million Dollar Development Fund provides support to developers with the objective of reducing barrier to entry for new application development and accelerating time to market.

Who is eligible for the Intel AppUp developer program "Million Dollar Development Fund"?
The development fund is available to individual and student developers as well as small, medium and large software companies who submit applications.

What is Intel AppUp developer program Accelerator 2010?
Intel AppUp developer program Accelerator 2010 is a component of the Million Dollar Development Fund. Under this program, Intel will provide funding to software developers and companies looking to speed time to market for applications that bring new user experiences to netbook consumers.

Why is Intel launching Accelerator 2010?
The netbook has become one of the most popular consumer devices in the market today, but its true potential has been limited by applications that are not optimized for its mobility and smaller screen size. Through Intel AppUp developer program Accelerator 2010, we are looking for breakthrough applications that demonstrate new user experiences designed for Intel Atom processor-based netbooks, show potential for significant growth and broad consumer appeal.

http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/article/frequently-asked-questions

Forum:
http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/forum

No problem at all  

But like I said before, my english is far from perfect.
I speak french, dutch, german and english, but to be really polite is very difficult in any foreign language.  

Back to the topic: I consider a forum as a perfect brainstorming place, sort of a meeting place for developers, users, etc.

Regards,
Olivier

I know, but this was the starting point: 

We shouldn't move the entire stack to MeeGo: it's not a universal OS:

are *you* going to move anything?

br Hari

Harri,

I've been working for more than 10 years on this stuff and it's available on the web for free:
http://sites.google.com/site/taoteking11/Home

I hope you will consider this also as "open source"  

Regards,
Olivier

PS: translations of Lao-Tsu sell as hot cakes, and my translation is the first correct one !  

We shouldn't move the entire stack to MeeGo: it's not a universal OS:
Intel targets its Atom CPUs, Nokia targets Qualcomm CPUs and AMD (+ATI) is completely out of the picture.
MeeGo is an OS for specific mobile devices.

But we should try to get the Orbiter code into the MeeGo Architecture.
http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture

The best way to achieve that is to have a LinuxMCE dev:
1) to code a "MeeGo for Netbooks" Orbiter
2) to "sell" his code to the MeeGo team
3) to adapt his code to the MeeGo "look"
4) to adapt his code for the upcoming tablets and phones.

This is a long-term commitment, that can only be achieved by a motivated LinuxMCE dev.
But the rewards will be huge: to have every MeeGo device as a ready-to-use Orbiter is the best possible promotion for the LinuxMCE project !  

Regards,
Olivier

including the Touch Orbiter in the Meego UX layer...that sounds like a big hill to climb as i guess that layer is sanctioned at some level.

It would be a very attractive proposition for the MeeGo team if:
* the code is small , effective and maintained.
* the UI is "MeeGo-like"

Every MeeGo device would be a ready-to-use Orbiter:
this would be a killer-app for the MeeGo project and the LinuxMCE project, of course !  

But if we want Touch Orbiter to be included in MeeGo for Netbooks 1.1 (= commercial launch in october), we should start now !  

Regards,
Olivier

OK, I'll try to find a MeeGo dev;
I'll send him to your Touch Orbiter thread:
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=10583.0

Another solution would be to include Touch Orbiter in the MeeGo Architecture:
http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture
do you think this would be an acceptable option for these guys ?

Regards,
Olivier