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hmm. another person with all talk, no action.

TRAC is here: http://svn.linuxmce.org/ ... love that you looked...

work with us, then I'll listen to what you have to say.

Did it occur to you that maybe I know these things?

WE LACK MANPOWER. PERIOD.

If you actually followed threads, or talked with us on the IRC server, you'd know that I am doing all these things. I am SICK of managerial types who think they can lead. Get down in the dirt with us and help us actually do work.

-Thom

I believe this response perfectly illustrates why there are no new developers and you lack manpower.  Good luck with your project, but I think I'll look to spend my free time elswhere.

Really, I'm fed up.

Am I really the only one man enough to do any serious additions to the system?

-Thom

I am not sure I understand the attitude.  Where is the task list and current bug tracker for the stable 07xx and 08xx development code?

For perspective, I'm new and I do write code.  I do not yet have linuxmce installed (other than a sandbox install to tinker with) as I've just bought a new house and I'm still in the planning stages and deciding whether it fits my needs.  As an outsider, one of the problems with LinuxMCE is making sense of all the information stored in the wiki/forums.  At some level, people just want to be told what to buy and how to get started.  Wikis are the worst sort of documentation in this sense as they don't always lead you, step by step through the process.  I've sorted out the requirements, but I can imagine those with less knowledge struggling.

Also consider that the barrier to entry with LinuxMCE is very high.  Just to install it you need familiarity with hardware (because it changes so fast and few current recommendations are given), networking (both wired/wifi), and linux.  Just looking at the volume of code in the development release suggests that bloat is a bit of a problem.  I've read people requesting the addition of a full-blown CMS into the mix and I cringe at the thought.

Finally, I am a firm believer in playing to one's strengths.  Thom, you seem like a helpful, honest and good guy, but the outbursts of exasperation and frustration with the lack of progress/development probably won't help you attract new talent.  Worse, they suggest you are ready to throw in the towel.  You need a roadmap of features that is regularly updated (the link in the forums seems broken).  You need to begin deligating a few tasks to those with the skills and time to accomplish them (recognizing that resources are slim at the moment).  Provide help when needed, but learn to be a little hands off.  From you, people need to feel your enthusiasm, understand your vision and see where the project is actually going.  Especially now that orbiters are powerful enough to both play media themselves AND control the system.  I understand the desire to have backwards compatibility with IP phones, laptops and nokia trinkets, but orbiters/wifi devices are pretty much throw-away devices for most tech guys I know.  Android or iPad-type devices are the new reality and LinuxMCE seems behind the curve.

To attract new people to the project, you need some good PR.  Task #1 in this regard is to get a few high-quality HD videos posted on youtube that specifically highlight the features and how cool it all is.  These for 0710 are a good start but the quality isn't really high enough.  This is definitely something that a few enthusiastic 'Users' could do and it would be a great help IMHO.  Even if they importing your previous youtube efforts into iMovie, running image stabilization on them, and compiling a feature list would help.  I realize that camera work is not your main interest, but it makes a difference (see below) in how the project is perceived.  Getting some good written press would also help and users could draft a few articles for some of the major tech-blogs.

Task #2 is to get some outside advice (with some input from current users) regarding the current UI.  I can appreciate the effort that went into it but the Apple-inspired trend is towards simple interfaces with smooth, anti-aliased fonts, gradients, transparency, etc.  You need a better way of unifying information that is frequently used from that which is not on each media director/orbitor.  Compare the aesthetics (both of the product UI and the video itself) of a few Moovida, Enna, Elisa, xmbc, Apple TV, and linuxmce videos.  I realize that linuxMCE does considerably more than the competition, but it really doesn't show the same level of polish and it looks intimidating.  Unfortunately, it is sometimes polish which initially draws people to a platform.

Getting skype audio integration into Asterisk doesn't seem to be a problem and probably worth the cost of the commercial solution if that's all you want.  In my case, I want video-enabled skype-to-skype calling from a media center.  Looking at the skype API for linux, it still seems that GET / SET VIDEO_IN interface is still missing.  Looks like this needs to wait until the API is more complete which is inevitable when the open-source the client.

I've searched the forums and was wondering if anyone has anything else to add regarding Skype integration with linuxmce.  It seems skype is more popular than ever and everyone I regularly converse with is now on skype.  Heck, even my parents and in-laws are now using skype to keep in touch with the family.  We initially tried iChat but this was unreliable in comparison.  I know skype is a closed protocol and not free, but I'd certainly be interested in being able to use the media director in my living room for voice/video calls from the couch.

Hi all,

I'm moving in a few weeks and considering moving to linuxMCE.  I was wondering if anyone can advise on the best way to use my current equipment.  My current setup is a bit of a mess.

ADSL link
linksys wrt54g running open-wrt (firewall/router)
pc server currently running debian with mysql/postgres, apache, asterisk and provides NAS, backup, media storage, and a variety of other things.
linksys spa3102 (pots->sip adapter, currently sitting DMZ)

imac, macbook x2, tv, squeezebox

I currently use the wrt54g for routing and I'm quite happy with it.  My current network has the wrt54g running as a router, firewall, and wireless access point. 



Re-jigging things to make my server the MCE 'core' box seems the most appropriate.  With only 4 wired ports, I'm not sure the wrt54g will do too well as a switch + access point but it will do for the moment. 



Eventually, I'd like to get all of the following configured:
- POTS/SIP adapter for asterisk... unfortunately, I need the POTS line.
- two TVs as MCE 'Media Directors'
- squeezebox
- lighting
- thermostat
- weather station via wviewweather

The big question I have is: Can I build/install MCE from source on my current Debian system or am I better just to start with a full LinuxMCE install?  My tape drive and weather station required building a custom kernel I'm not that keen to recreate my current  apache/php/python/mysql configuration to keep my websites working.  My current asterisk system works fine but I'd prefer to have it integrated with MCE.