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I downloaded kubuntu-linuxmce-0710-i386-beta-2.iso locally. But when I mounted the iso to take peek inside it I see the following in isolinux.cfg

" Install LinuxMCE 0710 for I386 ".

I hope this doesn't means that I can't install on my amd64 machine? As in the past installers have given me this problem...

Thanks in advance..

me too have good luck with AMD. Though support for AMD 64 is comming to linux mce and is not yet there... as I am waiting for it myself.
BTW using AMD64 you can have up to 8gb for memory, something you may want to have when doing encoding/watching and other stuff...

But intel got a 1 year head start when it comes to quad core. AMD release it only couple of months back.. I am using AMD 6000+ (dual core cpu) and it has been cool. Though the real test would be to decode mpg4 (H.264) streams.

Thanks

Wouldn't you need some user interaction to get the system to find the right share and image? Not to mention that the network environment will change completely after reboot with the core becoming the DHCP server etc. If that can be resolved it would be great to install from an image on a network share.

Yes. Some config will be needed. Though there is a way where all the options given are temporary only and used only for installation. Once the installation completes, it should proceed as usual... at least in theory... Once I have it and I give it a shot we will for sure uncover other issues though..

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Plus the bigger problem is what all network drivers should be put into initrd as without that it will not work..

all networking modules included in 0704 take up 7.6MB. Why not simply include them all?

best regards,
Hari

Then for sure we can add it ...7.6 MB is peanuts..
Thanks and regards

Also I was wondering why can't we do an install from NFS.. ? that would make like much easier..

because nobody did an installer for that yet

should not be hard to make a custom initrd for nfs insall. The quick installer just extracts tar files to the target partition. Just enable networking in the initrd and modify the scripts.

best regards,
Hari

Now I am familiar with how to modify initrd on RedHat platforms so lets see how good/bad/ughly will it be to do it here.. Plus the bigger problem is what all network drivers should be put into initrd as without that it will not work..
Off course scripts will be the second thing.. let me take a look at it and see if I can do that.. ?

If someone else is already looking at it then I would love to help them too.. Otherwise I will start looking at it as soon as I download the iso file.

Thanks

There's an image available by bittorrent, and one HTTP download in 3 parts. But  it's 5.5GB, too big for a single-layer DVD. It might fit and work with one large file (either the AMD or Intel MD PXE boot image) and a little extra "extras" removed, but I don't know. I you want to try it, you can search these forums for the 0704 beta "torrent" link or the HTTP mirror. Or, if you have grub configuration expertise, you can help me solve the problem I'm having in booting from the DVD ISO file, and we can both do some testing.

Matthew,
I have some experiance with grub.. but not sure if I can help. I have replied to your thread. I am waiting to finish the download of all the iso(s) and then I can see what's in there...   Lets hope we can fix it..

Also I was wondering why can't we do an install from NFS.. ? that would make like much easier..

Anyway let me download it and see where we get..

Thanks again..

Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding

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title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot

booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.

You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.

I'm bumping this question, because someone has got to know how to specify the grub menu.lst so I can boot the beta and start testing it. I've been hung up for a week on this, even though a single-layer DVD image is now overdue, and I'm sure there are many more who are in the same boat who could be testing and speeding the release. Help?

Matthew,

Have you looked into the contents of initrd.gz. I have seen different distribution have different stuff there. In one of the distro, they re-mount / after they have loaded correct driver to access the disk.

Perhaps you may have to make an entry there to remount root to /.

I am trying to download the iso(s) and once I have it will try to see whats in there... and will also try to reproduce the problem.

Thanks

Here is how I installed the beta2 ISO manually to a partition, without burning a DVD. 

Thanks - that procedure makes sense, and is certainly a little different from the one I'm using that's failing, in what seems like the relevant places. Especially since the change I made to my instructions, adding

Code Select Expand


title ISO image on sda3 (LMCE v0710b2)
kernel (hd0,2)/casper/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 BOOTMEDIA=cd
initrd (hd0,2)/casper/initrd.gz
boot

booted OK, except that the partition somehow was mounted on a dir called "/root", and booting halted in (initramfs) with a busybox shell and (I assume initramfs) stuff in /. When I changed it to "root=(hd0,2)/dev/sda3", I got a "init: /init 157 Error divide by zero" kernel panic when it tried to mount the root filesystem. Kind of a showstopper.

You will also need to configure a bootloader to start your partition, I used the existing GRUB install on another partititon and added extra targets to its /boot/grub/menu.lst.

Well, since that's what's killed me in my other method, would you specify the target I'd need to add to menu.lst? Thanks again for the assist.

I'm bumping this question, because someone has got to know how to specify the grub menu.lst so I can boot the beta and start testing it. I've been hung up for a week on this, even though a single-layer DVD image is now overdue, and I'm sure there are many more who are in the same boat who could be testing and speeding the release. Help?

Can we do a network install like for most other distribution.. boot up with a small iso and then point it to rest of the distribution via http/nfs/ftp? May be its too complicated to be done, but just throwing out ideas..

Thanks

Why don't you download a 0710b2 beta image, install it on your HW, and just play around with it? Then report bugs in Mantis. If you feel like fixing a bug that's neglected, you can try that once you know what's going on. That's what we're all doing, and that's what's making a releasable 0710 come at the pace it is (mostly the committing developers, but everyone can help somehow).

The only reason, I didn't do this was because I read a thread which mentioned something about the iso size being larger then 4GB so it wouldn't come on a standard DVD. If thats not the case I would love to give it a try, as I don't have a dual layer DVD writer...

If you or someone can point me to an image that can be written to a standard DVD, I would love to give it a shot.

Thanks in advance..

SOLVED:
THANK YOU GUYS!!!

I had just swapped out the drive and not the cable. I made the assumption that the new cable that came with my mobo couldn't be bad. WRONG!
Swapping out the cable solved the issues being logged to /var/log/messages and also seems to have cleaned up the DVD playback.

Thanks again for your help.

Awesome...

Take care

linuxmce@dcerouter:~$ gksudo echo 'ide=nodma' >/proc/cmdline
-bash: /proc/cmdline: Permission denied

Bear with me as I am not too fluent in Linux...

Sorry for the delayed response.. didn't check my email over the weekend..

You can't echo anything to /proc/cmdline as that is read only. When kernel was booting up it puts all the entries here for reference by rest of the programs/software/services in case they want to know what were the options it started..

Will read the rest of the thread and see where you are at..

Thanks

Hi,
I may not be able to help directly but would share my thoughts..

I have had some problems with my box, using other different distributions, same as you have explained here...

A) not sure if hdparam values are carried forward between reboots.

B) whats the kernel parameters you are using. Easiest to find it by using "cat /proc/cmdline".

If you have ide=nodma, then that will disable dma for all the ide bus. I am not sure, but that supersedes any another config you may want to do..

If ide=nodma does not exists in your /proc/cmdline then it means your motherboard/ide bus does not support dma. In that case, try rebooting your box with ide=nodma to see if that helps.. I have had better luck with ide=nodma specifically set when kernel boots up.

Hope this helps..

Thanks

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Programmer%27s_Guide

LOTS of great info there...

Awesome..
Going through it ..

Thanks and Regards

Sure!  Get Involved!  Jump in somewhere where you think you can help...
fix a wiki, update a wiki, expand a wiki...
If your a programmer, read some wikis, read some source....

Hell, you can SPELL CHECK WIKIS!
lol

Regards,

Dan

Hey Dan,
Yes I am a programmer and would love to see if I can help... Surely I can start by fixing spell checking the wiki... but would love to get this to work on my amd64 box, since the platform I am trying to get this to work, is used by quite some people who would love to give linuxmce a try...

If you can or someone else can help me a bit to ramp up it would be great...

Thanks and Regards

Thanks ddamron and totallymaxed.

I will probably wait for 710.

BTW is there anything I can do to assist you guys?

Thanks