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Title: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on February 09, 2009, 05:54:59 am
EDIT: Thom, myself, and Ritmo2k have been working to get this device supported.  It is finally done and is to date the only fully supported security interface.  Remember the VistaICM supports dozens of panels, is affordable, and is ethernet so adding it to your network is a breeze.

Features:


Known Bugs:

We need to get more people testing this to make sure it is completely bug free, especially since it is supporting a security device.  Post your interest in this thread.


I have posted about this in the past and have gotten several emails from other users who currently have one of the Vista series panels, it is important to note at this point that the interface device which is what I'm really looking to get supported would enable any panels it is compatible with to integrate with LinuxMCE as well.

A brief rundown of the setup, my panel does not have a network or serial connection natively so I needed to look at alternative methods and found the VistaICM module from In2 Networks.  It connects to the panel as a keypad and provides a nice web interface that communicates with the panel on the ECP bus.  The beauty of this method is that we can recieve all relevant information from the panel such as it's current status (arm - stay/arm - away/disarm/etc.).  We can also see the current state of each zone so we can monitor for zones to be faulted and trigger other events in LinuxMCE based on that event.  Along with that we have the capability to set the arm/disarm status on the panel from LinuxMCE so it is possible to make this a fully supported panel.

Diagram of connectivity:
Vista Series alarm panel - VistaICM - LinuxMCE network - Core

I had done quite a bit of research on the VistaICM device in my endeavor and have recently been directed to a link which thoroughly describes the technical workings of the VistaICM for interfacing with projects such as LinuxMCE.  This document provides all necessary information to get this panel working, all that we need now is a developer willing to put the DCE driver together for it.  The link can be found here: http://bliny.net/blog/post/HoneywellAdemco-Vista-ICM-network.aspx

Once I realized that the communications protocol was fully documented along with root access via telnet I dug into my panel and extracted the underlying javascript file that everything is operating on.  I do not have the required skillset to actually do anything with this, but I have attached the file to this posting in hopes that is will aid any developer interested.  (Filename: in2script.js)
Lastly, I have also found that this interface has already been integrated to HomeSeer using the same method as described above.  I contacted the author of their plug-in to find out more information and to get ahold of the source code.  He was more than willing to share his source, it is also attached to this posting.  Again this is posted as information for any interested developer.  (Filename: 1.0.1.1_HSPI_VISTA_ICM.zip)

Hopefully that is enough information to peak the interest of someone with the required skillsets.  I believe I've got all the needed information regarding communications rounded up at this point, please let me know if anything else is needed.
Title: Re: Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on February 13, 2009, 02:37:40 pm
If someone experienced with Ruby and DCE has some time tonight I'd like to work on this, but will need someone to help me along.  There was a call out recently for assistance with getting more hardware supported and these panels are the same models already used in a large majority of US households so it would be a worthy investment of time.
Title: Re: Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on February 16, 2009, 10:50:30 pm
I'm attempting to write the code myself and have decided that the first thing I want to be able to do is to set the alarm, I will be starting with the following basic modes but have some questions:

Disarmed
Armed - Stay
Armed - Away

I presume I will need to be clever when setting this up to take advantage of the additional modes supported by LMCE, I am thinking I could "map" the panels modes to LMCE's modes as follows:

Panel               LMCE
Disarmed          Disarmed
Armed - Away   Armed
Armed - Stay    Sleeping
Armed - Away   Extended Away
Disarmed          Entertaining

The first question that I have is that since LMCE uses a single pin code to set every mode and my panel uses a different pin code for each mode, how do I handle this situation?  LMCE will tell me that my pin is incorrect whenever I try to set a mode on my alarm panel.

I've been looking through the ruby codes written for both the panaonic IP camera and the Apex 6100 security panel to get a better idea what I am doing and I've been able to decipher most of the code, but I'm having trouble figuring out how the path is built to the panasonic IP camera.  I can see that when a device is set to ethernet communications that a field is automatically created for the IP address but can't tell how it is called in the Ruby codes.  If someone could break down the following code for me I think I could start making some progress.  This excerpt is from the Panasonic IP cameras template, it is to tilt the camera up.  I've noted what I think the lines do, please correct as necessary.  Also if someone could explain what += does in Ruby that would be helpful.

conn_.Reconnect()  //Tell the device to establish a new connection to the camera
auth_s=device_.devdata_[114]+":"+device_.devdata_[115]  //Get the username and password
auth_a=Array.new; //What is this array used for???
auth_s.each{|c| auth_a.push(c)} //I see the array used, but I have no idea why or what this line does
s = "GET nphControlCamera?Direction=TiltUp HTTP/1.0\r\n" //Fill in the URL to tilt the camera, why is HTTP/1.0\r\n attached to the end of this?
s+= "Accept: */*\r\n" //I have no idea what this does
s+= "Authorization: Basic "+auth_a.pack("m").chop+"\r\n" //Again I see the array, but I have no idea what this does
s+= "\r\n" //What does \r\n do?  and what is its purpose here?

conn_.Send(s) //Send the command we just built above to the camera
recv=""while(true) //Process the data received from the camera
  buff=conn_.Recv(256, 5000) //No clue what these arguments are for and what they are from?
  if(buff.length() == 0)  //If we are not receiving data then stop processing
     break
   end
   recv = recv +  buff //What the heck is this?
end
Title: Re: Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: Pablo on February 17, 2009, 05:55:22 am
+= is likely the concatenation operator that connects strings together. (I have no Ruby experience, just C, Python, C++, Java, Perl, BASH, etc...)

The r and n is a carriage return and line feed combination. This looks like it is sending RAW http requests over the wire. When you type stuff into a web browser, email client, or ftp server-- the URL or request you type in the little window is not what is sent. What is sent is converted by the web browser into the raw protocol being used. In this case your are contacting the server with the GET protocol of HTTP. So you see the GET... The rest of the stuff you are seeing is the protocol in its raw form being sent over the wire.

In this example it looks like auth_s is being used to transform some data held in auth_a. I am not familiar enough with RUBY to tell you what this is doing exactly.

conn_.Recv(256, 5000)

My guess is that 256 is the buffer size used. 5000 could be the socket. A good Ruby manual or API would clarify this bit.
ecv = recv +  buff //What the heck is this?

You are building recv from the buffer of 256 bytes by appending the buffer to the contents of recv as long as data is received.

Title: Re: Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: Frostcall on February 19, 2009, 07:11:14 pm
I currently have a DSC PC1616 (rather low end, but it was pre-installed).  I'll see what I can do to help out.  I have a little programming experience (very little).  Although it's not your model, I'll try to get something working on this line and if not, I'll go by a Honeywell.
Title: Re: Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on March 25, 2009, 07:21:02 pm
Just wanted to update this post since I've found that most ADT installed panels are inline with the series of devices supported by the VistaICM.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on April 07, 2009, 03:59:19 pm
Edit for completion
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: qball4 on April 08, 2009, 01:30:17 am
Well done gentlemen! I have a Vista 4140XMP and will be ordering the VistaICM shortly so will be able to help with any further testing. The best price I've found so far is about $250 - is that about right or is there a preferred vendor?

As an afterthought, does anyone forsee any issues with using a wireless bridge to connect the ICM to the network? I would *really* like to avoid having to run a cable from the second floor to the basement...

:Matt
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on April 08, 2009, 03:44:31 pm
It should work just fine on a bridge, though it has not been tested yet.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on April 15, 2009, 09:48:02 pm
Wiki page up now http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/VistaICM

We need to get more people testing this, PM me for details.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on May 06, 2009, 01:11:53 am
I just ordered my panel today, I should receive it next week, FYI, Here's what I ordered from "http://www.SecurityStoreUSA.com/":
Ademco / Honeywell VISTA ICM - Honeywell Internet Connection Module for VISTA - VISTAICM
Ademco / Honeywell V20PACK - VISTA-20P control + 6150 keypad + Aurora PIR + Wave2 2-tone sounder + 467 battery + 620 jack and 621 cord
$243.79
$167.75
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on May 19, 2009, 05:49:41 am
I just received my panel (Honeywell Vista-20P) and accessories, connected everything in stand-alone, everything worked perfect, "keypad, motion sensor, web-keypad (ICM module), & Siren".
I updated my LMCE 8.10 to the latest 2.20 release, disconnected the ICM module from my external network (192.168.0.x) and connected to my LMCE internal network (192.168.80.x), and I recycled the power of the panel, nothing happened, then I tried manually to configure the panel, I did not go far, because I did see the template.
Can someone guide me to setup the panel with LMCE??

Thanks,
Charlie
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: tschak909 on May 19, 2009, 05:59:43 am
I haven't checked in the VistaICM2 driver into 8.10 yet, but I will soon. :)

-Thom
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on May 19, 2009, 06:10:41 am
Thanks Thom, can you please send me a note when it is available?? I would love to test it out for you guys.
I also have ELK M1 Gold panel, any idea if this panel will be added to LMCE family ???
Cheers,
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: dlewis on May 19, 2009, 06:33:56 am
I also have ELK M1 Gold panel, any idea if this panel will be added to LinuxMCE family ???

Dave and the Elk guys publish the protocol documents, so it's definitely doable... It'll take some work though and no one is particularly working on it. We've also made an attempt to get LinuxMCE to work with HAI, but that dev work fell to the side.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on May 19, 2009, 06:55:13 am
I was hopping to get the Vista panel working so I can use it as a reference to make the Elk M1 working, because the basics are almost identical.
Charlie,
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: tschak909 on May 19, 2009, 02:08:03 pm
If you're interested, you can contact me about sponsoring the development work.

-Thom
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: AljonGuzman on June 02, 2009, 06:59:21 am
                 Thanks for the specifications of this product we will think about this.


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Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on July 22, 2009, 05:11:08 am
Thom,
FYI, I just updated my system to 2.25 and rebooted, I noticed when I arm the system, it starts the count down on all orbiters including my 2 squeezeboxes, after the system finishes the count down, both squeezeboxes keep repeating the last count "1" even after I disarmed the system, and I tried to play music to get rid of the repeating one, was not successful, I had to switch to the room where the squeezbox located and tried to play music then canceled then it stopped repeating the number one announcement.
BTW the slimserver streamer it look ok now, no more hanging.  :)
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on July 24, 2009, 09:46:16 pm
Did anyone else experienced the same issue?? Or just me !!!
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on July 28, 2009, 12:28:50 am
Thom,

Quote
Thom,
FYI, I just updated my system to 2.25 and rebooted, I noticed when I arm the system, it starts the count down on all orbiters including my 2 squeezeboxes, after the system finishes the count down, both squeezeboxes keep repeating the last count "1" even after I disarmed the system, and I tried to play music to get rid of the repeating one, was not successful, I had to switch to the room where the squeezbox located and tried to play music then canceled then it stopped repeating the number one announcement.
BTW the slimserver streamer it look ok now, no more hanging.

Should I file this as a bug in trac???
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: tschak909 on July 28, 2009, 01:03:30 am
Yes, please.

-Thom
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: Murdock on July 28, 2009, 07:22:32 pm
I'd love to help out in testing this, I believe i'm running the vista20p at home (i'll double check this evening).
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on July 28, 2009, 10:04:13 pm
Murdock, that's great, the more usage of the panel the more bugs we can catch.
You don't have to worry about the panel model, all Vista series are supported by the current Thom's driver, but you have to have the Vista-ICM module installed, that's how LMCE talk to the Panel. So far it works great with minor issues, the countdown on the squeezebox get stuck in a loop  which I just filed a bug report, the other issue is, the current Panel only works with attached wired sensors or compatible RF transmitter (345Mhz) using the "5881ENL Receiver" which I just installed myself yesterday, you can not use already installed zwave sensors for an example, the reason is, you can not force the panel remotely by commands for an alarm on certain zones, the only way is to bridge it, for example connect a Global Cache output relay to one of the panel free zones, if the zwave sensor get triggered you can send a command to the Global Cache to open or close the relay in which case it will trigger the alarm on the panel. That's the easy way if you have the Global Cache which I don't, maybe someone can advise on other solution here, the other way which I'm investigating through transmitting the RF command to the "5881ENL Receiver" which I asked the Honeywell engineer he said it is possible, and he suppose to email me the protocol spec, I will share it when I get it.
Again the whole idea of the panel is adding extra security to LMCE in case of an extended power failure, and extend the compatibility to new sensors on the market.
 
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: Murdock on July 28, 2009, 10:26:14 pm
The implementation at home is pretty standard, i have a few IR sensors which I believe are wired and a few wireless battery operated glass breakage sensors. I'm not certain if they are z-wave or RF, I need to do some further research to find out for certain.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: qball4 on July 28, 2009, 10:35:39 pm
Just a side note - not all Vista panels are supported. You need to have a panel that uses addressable keypads; this means Vista-10 and up. Older Vista 4100 series boards, for example, use all the same wiring, sensors, and ecp bus protocol as new boards, and new keypads are backwards compatible with old boards, but Vista-10 and up recognize keypads individually while the older boards see all the keypads as the same.

That being said, a new rev. 7 Vista-20p can be had for less than half the price of the ICM module. If anyone needs to upgrade their board, make sure you have a 6138, 6139, or 6160 keypad to program it.

:Matt
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on July 28, 2009, 11:04:43 pm
Thanks Matt for the clarification, currently I'm using 6150 keypad and 6271cv touchpad, BTW if you have the ICM module you can do all the programming of the panel from a web browser it has to be MS/IE. I just downloaded Compass SW but didn't try it yet.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: qball4 on July 28, 2009, 11:37:44 pm
I thought Compass could only be used with old 2400 baud modems - do you know the procedure for programming through the ICM module? That would be so much more convenient. My 20p comes on Thursday and not having to use my 6138 would be nice.

:Matt
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: ccoudsi on July 28, 2009, 11:49:51 pm
I didn't try Compass yet, from what I read so far I should be able to program the panel using local network!!!
As far programming from ICM, I just followed the instruction that came with it, nothing special, to program the panel just point your IE browser (I tried at least 4 other browsers did not work only IE ) to the IP of the ICM unit then select security button and you'll see virtual keypad only difference here you'll see a lot more information on the screen then the actual LCD keypad.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: qball4 on August 07, 2009, 07:41:38 am
So after a clean 0810 2.26 install my VistaICM2 w/ Vista-20P was detected, but the DCERouter log shows that it failed to download. Specifically:

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08      08/07/09 0:09:50.493              Parameter 163(Description): VistaICM2(Honeywell / Security Interface) <0xa13eeb90>
08      08/07/09 0:09:55.629              Parameter 9(Text): 334 Pre PNP ScriptVistaICM2 <0xa13eeb90>
08      08/07/09 0:09:55.630              Parameter 9(Text): 334 OptionsVistaICM2 <0xa13eeb90>
08      08/07/09 0:09:55.630              Parameter 163(Description): VistaICM2 <0xa13eeb90>
08      08/07/09 0:10:14.880              Parameter 9(Text): 334 AddingVistaICM2 <0xa13eeb90>
08      08/07/09 0:10:15.952              Parameter 9(Text): 334 Added device: VistaICM2 <0xa13eeb90>
08      08/07/09 0:10:15.953              Parameter 9(Text): 334 Done with new device Added: VistaICM2 <0xa13eeb90>
05      08/07/09 0:10:16.114             UpdateEntArea::AddDevicesToEntArea adding device 45 VistaICM2 to ent area 1 Family Room <0xb0558b90>
08      08/07/09 0:10:17.848              Parameter 9(Text): Downloading LinuxMCE VistaICM2 Support... <0x717feb90>
08      08/07/09 0:10:22.439              Parameter 9(Text): Failed to get LinuxMCE VistaICM2 Support <0x741a8b90>

Any ideas? Is there a way to manually install it?

Thanks,
Matt
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: tschak909 on August 07, 2009, 03:38:16 pm
it looks like the package wasn't folded into the build. I have added it to the list of packages to build for this next pass.

-Thom
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: qball4 on August 07, 2009, 04:38:04 pm
Thanks Thom

:Matt
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: xbertz on September 03, 2009, 11:46:36 pm
Has anyone here tested with the new Ademco/Honeywell Vista 21iP panel that integrates the ICM onto the main panel? 

I am thinking that it will be very similar to the 20P combined with the ICM.  I have recently purchased the 21iP for close to $200 which is a great savings to the combination of the 20P and ICM.  I would like to hear if anyone has and potentially test this out with LinuxMCE.

Also any word when the next release is coming out with the previous feature included?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: tschak909 on September 04, 2009, 12:15:48 am
it's already included with the alpha builds.

-Thom
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: los93sol on September 04, 2009, 10:08:35 pm
You need the ICM device as the driver was written for the ICM, not the panel.  Thus any panel supported by the ICM will work out of the box with LinuxMCE.  Though if it actually integrates the ICM device and not a variant of it then it may work.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: Murdock on September 05, 2009, 04:29:40 pm
Thanks for the hard work everyone - the VistaICM is wheeling it's way to my house as we speak.
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: qball4 on September 07, 2009, 12:09:00 am
I am thinking that it will be very similar to the 20P combined with the ICM. 

I'm pretty sure the 21iP still needs the vista icm to work with lmce. From what I can tell, its ip capabilities were designed for alarmnet integration only. Honeywell phone support is pretty good - give them a call and see what they say.

:Matt
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: rocketlynx on September 15, 2009, 08:36:30 pm
Maybe this is the answer we've been looking for...

I am thinking that it will be very similar to the 20P combined with the ICM.  

I'm pretty sure the 21iP still needs the vista icm to work with lmce. From what I can tell, its ip capabilities were designed for alarmnet integration only. Honeywell phone support is pretty good - give them a call and see what they say.

:Matt

This is from the Vista-21ip Installation Manual:

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∗29 Menu Mode for IP and GSM Module Programming
This mode is for programming the Internet connection (IP) and optional GSM Module configuration,
collectively referred to as the Internal Device.
NOTE: The Internal Device is automatically set to address 3 and cannot be changed.
The following section describes the programming of the Internal Device using an alpha keypad.
Alternatively, these options can be programmed via the AlarmNet Direct website. After programming is
complete, the control must be registered with AlarmNet via the Internet connection. Refer to the
Registration with AlarmNet section for procedures.
IMPORTANT: The use of the IP connection or the VISTA-GSM module requires an AlarmNet–I account.
Please obtain the account information from the central station prior to programming this module.

Note the following from above:
IMPORTANT: The use of the IP connection or the VISTA-GSM module requires an AlarmNet–I account.
Please obtain the account information from the central station prior to programming this module.


Regards,
Charles
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: tschak909 on September 15, 2009, 08:48:02 pm
will not work with this driver.

-Thom
Title: Re: [COMPLETE] Ademco/Honeywell entire Vista series via VistaICM
Post by: Murdock on September 21, 2009, 10:34:57 pm
The ICM is now installed - I'm working through the MCE integration now...