LinuxMCE Forums
General => Users => Topic started by: ukulele_ninja on December 06, 2008, 09:11:32 am
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Well I decided to go ahead and reinstall linuxmce after running into roadblocks trying to login to the server.
Anyway, that issue is resolved except now I can't get online! It did the updates at the beginning ok but none of my browsers are responding.
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Check your IP address:
http://192.168.80.1/pluto-admin/index.php?section=networkSettings
What's your "GATEWAY" IP address?
Maybe you have the NIC cards back to front?
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I only hae one onboard NIC card, but I let it go overnight and didnt touch it and now all of a sudden this morning it decided to wrok.
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You need to have two NIC cards.
*hmm* people just don't #@($@#( listen.
-Thom
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I thought the two NIC cards were only if I had more than one unit? Currently I am running MCE on my main computer and having it act as my core and media manager. Besides, the internet started working.
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God damn it, will you listen to me?! *Smack-you-hard!*
The reason it's acting goofy is, that it created an ethernet alias.
It created two cards, eth0 for the internet, and eth0:0 for the internal network. These are going to the same card, and the network packets are going out the same cable.
LinuxMCE starts its own DHCP server to handle the internal network, and if you have an existing DHCP server running, it will collide! causing EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEMS YOU ARE EXPERIENCING. and guess what? it will come back!
The solution, is to put another nic card in, and simply don't use it. LMCE will configure it, and put the DHCP on the empty NIC card, _AVOIDING_ the problem you're experiencing.
(yes, you will need to reinstall.)
*hmm* people never read... people never listen, and then they whine and complain. What will it take for you people? we write it down for you all so you guys don't go THROUGH this shit!
-Thom
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Dude calm yourself, I read that but was under the impression that it would only affect me if I was running more than one device from this box. I apologize for wasting your precious time man but come on.
So adding a second NIC card and reinstalling the Os takes care of the problem, got it.
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Yeah, tschak909 shut the fuck up, stop being such a bitch about it, ever think he might be new to this type of linux huh? A lot of people start out not knowing anything about linux and come to forums for answers instead of researching, it's easier and if people weren't such asses to them maybe there would be less problems.
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Yeah, tschak909 shut the fuck up, stop being such a bitch about it, ever think he might be new to this type of linux huh? A lot of people start out not knowing anything about linux and come to forums for answers instead of researching, it's easier and if people weren't such asses to them maybe there would be less problems.
Oh look it's another hungry troll... ::)
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takeitngo: I'm one of the devs, you twit.
My frustrations come out of people who i've talked to, who refuse to listen to things we tell them, and then wonder why things break?
-Thom
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takeitngo: Easier to come to the forums than to research? Can I quote you on that when I come to kick your ass?
Your affirmation simply pisses me off. I mean, I do my best not to bother people unless I'm pretty sure the information I'm looking for is not out there, or, if it is, it's so well hidden that no matter how I twist my search terms it just won't show up, and here you are, and the likes of you, that consider it _easier_ to bother others than _research_. You deserve a smacking for this affirmation alone. The forumers aren't search engine replacements you know.
Also, the proper attitude is: "Oh, alright then." (acceptance of the fact) and, if you don't like it, change it and submit a patch (involvement). In no way whining is going to get you a medal. Unless it's in the form of a foot up your ass.
Now, Tschack is pissed off, and he should take a break from the forums to chill. But that's another story, and it doesn't excuse ignorance.
Hope you catch my drift.
**** Update ****
takeitngo: I just noticed this your first post in the forums. This means one thing: bend over, or you'll be bent over by force, and we'll form a queue behind you, each with his own thoughts in mind
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Ive made an honest effort to try and learn this distro and learn MCE, but its been over 7 years since Ive even used Linux.
One problem I have run into on this site is that when using the search function, articles and threads that are displayed have been outdated and rendered irrelevant. For example, the search function and the wiki both presented conflicting and confusing views regarding JavaMO and its compatibility. The wiki has a very short article and only mentions a few devices it is even compatible with, meanwhile, the search function showed me threads that lead one to believe that it JavaMO does not even exist or is still in development! Same goes for looking for information on motherboards that are compatible, the wiki said yes, and threads said no.
So I apologize if I pissed anyone off, it was not my intention and all I really wanted to do was learn without sounding 'whiny'. Therefore, Im not going to mess with it anymore till I get my box put together after the holidays and meanwhile i try my best to learn more about the LinuxMCE and some other media center options which I have already discovered may be better for my needs and with more understanding forum users.
No hard feelings toward anyone, ill reserve posting anymore until I have the box put together i intend to use permanently.
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and I apologise for flying off the handle.
-Thom
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Is it any better to turn off DHCP when you only have 1 ethernet card?
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Yes, but again, by design the external IP is locked down...so it becomes more difficult to reach the web admin, among other things...
-Thom
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and I apologise for flying off the handle.
-Thom
No problem, If i end up using LMCE, ill make sure i do as much homework as i can ahead of time.
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The solution, is to put another nic card in, and simply don't use it. LMCE will configure it, and put the DHCP on the empty NIC card, _AVOIDING_ the problem you're experiencing.
Or, it seems to me, if you're going to go to the trouble of installing and/or buying a second nic, why not use it? Just hook one of your NICs to your dsl/cable modem, and the other nic to a switch to use for hooking up all your internal network devices, and the dhcp server in linux will work for you internal devices. This is how I did mine and it has worked without a hiccup so far, 0 futzing. I did have to disable DHCP on my wireless router ahead of time though, because I still wanted to use that on my internal network. It is slaved off of a GB switch I bought for the purposes of hooking up all of my devices for this project.
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takeitngo: Easier to come to the forums than to research? Can I quote you on that when I come to kick your ass?
Yeah go ahead and try to come kick my ass
I'm over 6 feet
180 pounds
And I'm african
Try it, you'll shit yourself
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takeitngo: Easier to come to the forums than to research? Can I quote you on that when I come to kick your ass?
Yeah go ahead and try to come kick my ass
I'm over 6 feet
180 pounds
And I'm african
Try it, you'll shit yourself
Sounds more like you're 12 years old.
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/me get's some popcorn
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;)
Heh. Hari eats a lot of popcorn.
Simply put, if you don't use it, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't install it. Thom makes a valid point. If you are connected to an internal or ISP provided router, LMCE is going to by default, try to take over it's DHCP capabilities. Now in a network that has only one PC or laptop hooked to it, this may or may not cause problems with your internet. If the ISP is providing a DHCP address, and LMCE is trying to override it, you may end up with contrary internet access, as one thing is trying to grab the DHCP addres from the ISP/router and another thing, LMCE's internal DHCP server is trying to override that. Could make for some strange system performance, and then you won't be able to fully enjoy your system.
Slap another NIC in there, they are cheap these days, last one I bought was a used 3Com 10/100 card at a local shop for $10 US. You don't necessarily need to use it now, but at least it will prevent the virtual interface from being created, and possibly messing with your internet.
And, when you do decide to add more boxes, and you will ;), as this is the coolest home platform you'll ever see for free, your second NIC will already be there, waiting for you, no reboot/re-install required ;D
Best Regards,
Seth
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;)
Heh. Hari eats a lot of popcorn.
yeah, unfortunately some threads require attention..
br, Hari