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General => Installation issues => Topic started by: posterberg on December 18, 2007, 12:01:24 am
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I've just "upgraded" from an ATI card to a NVIDIA card in the hopes of running the UI with the full GL interface...
The card installs happily and I reinstalled LinuxMCE from the bottom, DVD install and the HD was totally reformatted...
Everything goes well up until the point where the AVWizard is supposed to start, I just get a blank screen and my monitor goes to sleep mode.
I figured it might be a video driver issue so I followed the video setup guid in the Wiki and downloaded the latest NVIDIA driver.
telinit 1, and then installed the video driver, and after that 'reboot'
Well, I still just get the result with having a monitor that goes to sleep.
It is a standard monitor that is capable of any resolution up to 1600x1200 so it shouldn't have any problem with displaying any type of output.
I tried pressing all combinations from 1-9 with the twittering sound in between. My monitor wakes up and shows text mode for a short while and then back to sleep. I guess this is when X restarts after changing video settings.
I thought using NVIDIA cards should be the smooth way to do this? I never had any such problems with my old ATI card (9800 series)... ;o)
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This works great for my nvidia 7050
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3368.0 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3368.0)
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Why changing from ATI? The newest drivers from ATI (7.11) have full AIGLX and Composite support... should run now in full UI2...?
greetings
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It's possible that another connector may be active..
Try pressing numbers 1 through 5 (I think) when your monitor goes to sleep. That changes the output port.. HDMI/DVI/VGA/TV/etc..
Search for AVWizard just to be sure, it might be 6-0, can't remember off hand
HTH
Dan
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Why changing from ATI? The newest drivers from ATI (7.11) have full AIGLX and Composite support... should run now in full UI2...?
greetings
Hmmm... I think the word 'should' is the important issue!
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This works great for my nvidia 7050
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3368.0 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3368.0)
Lots of smoke but no cigar... ;) It actually got worse, the monitor goes completely to sleep now and won't even wake up, as described above, when pressing 1-9.
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Why changing from ATI? The newest drivers from ATI (7.11) have full AIGLX and Composite support... should run now in full UI2...?
greetings
The second reason for that was that I also move my 32" TV to my bedroom which I have a working VGA(RGB)->SCART setup on. I've read that VGA->SCART is impossible on the NVIDIA cards since they aren't supposed to be able to run the VGA connector in interlaced mode. I've however not got this to work with ATI's driver, just the opensource driver. I guess UI2 isn't supported with the open source driver. I am happy to have UI1 working... ;o)
The living room gets the projector and the NVIDIA card.
Anyways, I saw when the NVIDIA card arrived that NVIDIA actually has shipped a RGB TV-out cable with it so I might try that one and go back to using DVI on the ATI card for the projector.
To clearify, I am running with a normal CRT monitor now. I won't connect the projector until I've got the video driver issues sorted out. This is to narrow down the number of places where problems might occur... Stupid to troubleshoot more than one plausible problem at a time... ;-)
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Why changing from ATI? The newest drivers from ATI (7.11) have full AIGLX and Composite support... should run now in full UI2...?
greetings
Hmmm... I think the word 'should' is the important issue!
Does this mean that UI2 won't work with the new ATI driver? I guess I'll go on with the current setup then, using the NVIDIA card on the projector...
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It's possible that another connector may be active..
Try pressing numbers 1 through 5 (I think) when your monitor goes to sleep. That changes the output port.. HDMI/DVI/VGA/TV/etc..
Search for AVWizard just to be sure, it might be 6-0, can't remember off hand
HTH
Dan
1-5 is the connector, 6-0 is the video mode... I did try pressing all those combinations, no luck though... 2 should be VGA out and 7 is 1024x768, that is the combination that I've pressed I don't know how many times =)
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If there is any on-board video make sure it is disabled in the bios.
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If there is any on-board video make sure it is disabled in the bios.
Nope, only on-bard audio...
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I have the same problem, no onboard video here either, running an Nvidia Ti 4200. When i loaded LinuxMCE from the DVD ISO it got me stuck earlier w/ blank screen, so I did it one at a time: Kubuntu install then from there used CD ISO's of LinuxMCE, after it installed everything and rebooted, I get the exact same scenario :(
When I his 1-0 on the keyboard the monitor comes back on and I get funny noises from the PC, then see dcerouter login for what appears to be ubuntu, then it quickly flickers away again and the monitor goes off. No one knows whats going on here?
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This works great for my nvidia 7050
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3368.0 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3368.0)
oh yea of course also followed this got NVIDIA driver installed after all steps, same problem :(
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okay so it seems the nvidia driver is either broken or not installing right (even after following the above steps from the other thread). here's what I did for a test:
CTRL+ALT tap F2
login
sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
change the video driver from driver...."nvidia" to:
driver...."nv"
now reboot and you'll see the av wizard. however this still doesn't really solve the issue as it's obviously preferred to be using drivers from nvidia for video playback etc all the features of LinuxMCE...really need to get this going still.
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I can get X up and running with Nvidias driver, but I can't get X started if I let LMCE start it for me - doing a normal boot.
X starts if I start the computer in recovery mode and issue the command startx. This makes KDE start up more or less as KDE would start on any non LMCE computer.
I can start MythTV Frontend from KDE and watch TV and so on, but I am not able to run LMCE this way...
I do, however, just get the black screen, monitor goes to sleep, if I let the computer boot up in normal mode.
It is somewhat annoying, I really hope this won't be a problem in 7.10...
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Hmm, I read in one thread just now "Don't use the shortcut of installing with the DVD on unproven hardware"...
Do you think I would get rid of my problems if I try taking the CD install route instead?
1. Installing the KUbuntu CD
2. Get all video drivers up and running
3. Then install the LMCE CD
Is this more stable or will the last CD change anything in my videodriver setup?
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Do you think I would get rid of my problems if I try taking the CD install route instead?
1. Installing the KUbuntu CD
2. Get all video drivers up and running
3. Then install the LMCE CD
Is this more stable or will the last CD change anything in my videodriver setup?
well I just tried this route; installed kubuntu CD, shutdown x to install 1.0-96xx series drivers, rebooted to see loading kubuntu screen, then it simply goes to a blackscreen with a blinking cursor :X Anyone know whats going on?? I followed all the steps from the wiki http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Display_Drivers
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You got steps 2 and 3 in the wrong order.
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But what's difference then from just using the DVD install?
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When you have the blinking cursor check to see if there is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf if not try copying one thats in that directory ie xorgplutoavwizard or something like that to xorg.conf wait 30 seconds or so and see if avwizard pops up.
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When you have the blinking cursor check to see if there is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf if not try copying one thats in that directory ie xorgplutoavwizard or something like that to xorg.conf wait 30 seconds or so and see if avwizard pops up.
there is one, in fact i edited the xorg.conf file a few times to use vesa & nv driver instead, and yes saw the avwizard come up, however I'm trying to get linuxMCE up and running w/ compatibility for my gfx card & its driver, but that appears to be too near impossible :-/
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When you have the blinking cursor check to see if there is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf if not try copying one thats in that directory ie xorgplutoavwizard or something like that to xorg.conf wait 30 seconds or so and see if avwizard pops up.
What is really wierd is that there is one, and I know that it is working... I get KDE running perfectly if I boot in recovery mode and manually issue 'startx'.
But AVWizard fail to start if I let the computer boot up normaly...
I might have success with trying to use the vesa driver as suggested and then switch back to the xorg.conf file I now have...
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Hi,
Had the same issue and solved it by editing the Xconfigure.sh script and changed the CRT string to TV-0 as i'm using the S-Video scart (TV-0). try to use whatever is right for the port you are using. I also have a FX5200 where i had nothing to touch it just worked.
Regards,
Rafik
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I've solved my issues now as well...
1. Install NVidia drivers according to the Envy guide found in this forum
2. Update the modules section in xorg.conf to include (I did this after running the AVwizard but I think it safely can be done at once)
Section "Module"
Load "i2c"
Load "bitmap"
Load "ddc"
Load "dri"
Load "extmod"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "int10"
Load "type1"
Load "vbe"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "speedo"
Load "GLcore"
Load "v4l"
EndSection
3. Copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pluto.xorg.conf (sorry that name is incorrect, it show up after a few faulty reboots but it seems to be deleted now when avwizard has completed) I'll update the guide if someone knows the correct name
4. Add the command exit on the second line in /usr/pluto/bin/Xconfigure.sh
#!/bin/bash
exit
function XorgConfLogging() {
local message="$1"
...
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I had the same issue and I believe ::) I know what is happening. When I was installing LinuxMCE from the 2 CD's on top of a fresh Kubuntu 7.04 install, whenever I chose to use the proprietary driver that the installer wants you to use, I get this issue. When I use the standard driver and change to the proprietary later, I don't get this issue. I have a NVIDIA 6800LE in this test computer I am using.
I think that the AVWizard is starting after the reboot and is in a resolution that the monitor cannot see or the driver is just incompatible. It is funny that If I change to the proprietary after the install that AVEizard runs fine after a reboot.
Hope this helps...
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I figured it might be a video driver issue so I followed the video setup guid in the Wiki and downloaded the latest NVIDIA driver.
telinit 1, and then installed the video driver, and after that 'reboot'
Well, I still just get the result with having a monitor that goes to sleep.
It is a standard monitor that is capable of any resolution up to 1600x1200 so it shouldn't have any problem with displaying any type of output.
I tried pressing all combinations from 1-9 with the twittering sound in between. My monitor wakes up and shows text mode for a short while and then back to sleep. I guess this is when X restarts after changing video settings.
I thought using NVIDIA cards should be the smooth way to do this? I never had any such problems with my old ATI card (9800 series)... ;o)
It sounds like you are having the output routed through to the wrong connector.
Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Option "TVStandard "xx"
For the VGA connector, xx=CRT
For SVideo connector, xx=TV
I'm not sure what DVI is, but if you are using DVI, reply to this and I'll look it up for you. Assuming you haven't already solved the problem, that is ;)
Best Regards,
Richard.
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I figured it might be a video driver issue so I followed the video setup guid in the Wiki and downloaded the latest NVIDIA driver.
telinit 1, and then installed the video driver, and after that 'reboot'
Well, I still just get the result with having a monitor that goes to sleep.
It is a standard monitor that is capable of any resolution up to 1600x1200 so it shouldn't have any problem with displaying any type of output.
I tried pressing all combinations from 1-9 with the twittering sound in between. My monitor wakes up and shows text mode for a short while and then back to sleep. I guess this is when X restarts after changing video settings.
I thought using NVIDIA cards should be the smooth way to do this? I never had any such problems with my old ATI card (9800 series)... ;o)
It sounds like you are having the output routed through to the wrong connector.
Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Option "TVStandard "xx"
For the VGA connector, xx=CRT
For SVideo connector, xx=TV
I'm not sure what DVI is, but if you are using DVI, reply to this and I'll look it up for you. Assuming you haven't already solved the problem, that is ;)
Best Regards,
Richard.
I am using the DVI connector on a 7600. Think using DVI in the xorg.conf file would work? I guess if you know where to look something like this up that would be great! Thanks.
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It sounds like you are having the output routed through to the wrong connector.
Edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Option "TVStandard "xx"
For the VGA connector, xx=CRT
For SVideo connector, xx=TV
I'm not sure what DVI is, but if you are using DVI, reply to this and I'll look it up for you. Assuming you haven't already solved the problem, that is ;)
I am using the DVI connector on a 7600. Think using DVI in the xorg.conf file would work? I guess if you know where to look something like this up that would be great! Thanks.
DVI is:
Option "TVStandard" "DFP"
You can also try in addition to the above line, to have a line which says
Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
What is the difference? TVStandard tells the card what is connected to the ports at the back of the card. UseDisplayDevice tells the driver which of the devices connected is the one to use, and is useful only when more than one device is plugged in.
Also check the following:
Replace any line which says Driver "xx" with:
Driver "nvidia"
Existing Driver options might be nv, vesa or fbdev. Whatever it is, replace it.
Under the Modules section, remove any lines that say Load "dri" or Load "glcore", and make sure you have
Load "glx"
Let us know how you go. Good luck!
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Under the Modules section, remove any lines that say Load "dri" or Load "glcore", and make sure you have
Load "glx"
I have dri and glcore and it works. Why should they be removed? Is performance affected by having them loaded?
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Under the Modules section, remove any lines that say Load "dri" or Load "glcore", and make sure you have
Load "glx"
I have dri and glcore and it works. Why should they be removed? Is performance affected by having them loaded?
I'm afraid I don't know. I've been told by Nvidia support to remove them, and the tech didn't know either. He had installations where it worked fine with dri and others where it gave problems. My guess is that there is some code in the NVidia drivers which duplicates the functionality of dri/glcore or needs access to the same hardware/addresses/ports. My other guess is that some series of cards are affected by them but not others.
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Under the Modules section, remove any lines that say Load "dri" or Load "glcore", and make sure you have
Load "glx"
I have dri and glcore and it works. Why should they be removed? Is performance affected by having them loaded?
I'm afraid I don't know. I've been told by Nvidia support to remove them, and the tech didn't know either. He had installations where it worked fine with dri and others where it gave problems. My guess is that there is some code in the NVidia drivers which duplicates the functionality of dri/glcore or needs access to the same hardware/addresses/ports. My other guess is that some series of cards are affected by them but not others.
Thanks for your feedback, I'll test and see what happens if I remove them. I'll do so when I get home tomorrow. I'll report back and tell if I can see any performance changes...
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This is the exact problem i've been trying to fix for 2 weeks now (just found this forum). My only question is, before or after i edit this file, will i need install any additional nvidia drivers?
Thanks
MG
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This is the exact problem i've been trying to fix for 2 weeks now (just found this forum). My only question is, before or after i edit this file, will i need install any additional nvidia drivers?
Thanks
MG
I'm afraid the answer is not going to help you in the slightest :D
It would depend on what driver you currently have, and whether they have any bugs in the sections that relate to your card. The short answer - try just the edit, and if that solves your problem, fine. If you are capable of getting the latest drivers and installing them, you probably want to do it. Nvidia is generally good with their drivers and my personal preference is to have the latest non-beta driver always
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Thanks...I'll give that a shot. I loaded the beta 710 thinking that would solve my problem, but it's still the same. I noticed that in 710 beta, there are three xorg.conf files, two with .pluto appended to them. The file setup looks about the same with a couple of extra option and some missing info from the 704 file. Any luck with the beta?
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Thanks...I'll give that a shot. I loaded the beta 710 thinking that would solve my problem, but it's still the same. I noticed that in 710 beta, there are three xorg.conf files, two with .pluto appended to them. The file setup looks about the same with a couple of extra option and some missing info from the 704 file. Any luck with the beta?
I've never edited anything but /etc/X11/xorg.conf - I think LMCE changes the others when it sees something different in your configuration on startup. Maybe someone with more knowledge could fill us in.
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Thanks again...the fix worked. My only issuse now is the default resolution. I have my LMCE box connected DVI/HDMI to my tv which has a native resolution of 1366x768. When I run through the AV Wizard, I don't have the option to select this resolution, so when I have MCE up and running, I have to scroll to the left/right to see the entire screen. Any idea?
Thanks Again
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Thanks again...the fix worked. My only issuse now is the default resolution. I have my LMCE box connected DVI/HDMI to my tv which has a native resolution of 1366x768. When I run through the AV Wizard, I don't have the option to select this resolution, so when I have MCE up and running, I have to scroll to the left/right to see the entire screen. Any idea?
Thanks Again
Have a look at the xorg log file - /var/log/xorg.0.log - and read through it. It contains a lot of information about what is happening as the X video subsystem starts up. This includes what it thinks your monitor capable of and what the card is capable of. You will be able to see if the video mode really is unsupported, or whether it is not being offered because the system thinks your monitor is not capable of it.
I found a similar problem after installation, which arose because the system assumed my TV was NTSC. Putting in Option "TVStandard" "Pal" solved that problem easily, but it was only the logs which told me where the problem lay.
Best Regards,
Richard.
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Thanks again...the fix worked. My only issuse now is the default resolution. I have my LMCE box connected DVI/HDMI to my tv which has a native resolution of 1366x768. When I run through the AV Wizard, I don't have the option to select this resolution, so when I have MCE up and running, I have to scroll to the left/right to see the entire screen. Any idea?
Thanks Again
I have 1366x768@66hz running fine...
Do the following:
Boot into KDE and download the latest driver from Nvidia to the desktop.
Or press this link:
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.07/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.07-pkg1.run
Now press CTRL + ALT + F1 and log in with linuxmce/linuxmce if you are on the core or just root if you are on a MD.
Shutdown X to install driver by typing:
sudo telinit 1
CD to your desktop...
On the Core:
cd /home/linuxmce/Desktop
On a MD:
cd Desktop
Install the driver by typing:
sudo sh drivername (I just type sudo sh nv and press TAB and the rest of the name writes itself)
Follow the installation wizard, choose No to continue on the first and yes to all the rest...
Reboot by typing:
sudo shutdown -r now
Hold shift while booting to enter AvWizard and if you dont see it, press 1 on the keyboard to choose DVI.
Choose a simple resoluting. 640x480 is fine... You probably get this one anyway...
Start KDE desktop after the rebuild.
Press the KDE Start button and select Run Command
Type:
sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
Edit only the following sections: Monitor, Device and Screen.
This is what I have in mine:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "Unknown Vendor Name"
BoardName "Unknown Board Name"
Option "LinearAlloc" "16384"
#BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1366x768"
Virtual 1366 768
EndSubSection
Option "TVStandard" "1366x768"
EndSection
When you are done, save the file and reboot :)
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[quote author=cirion link=topic=3500.msg20763#msg20763 date=1199819632]
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1366x768"
Virtual 1366 768
EndSubSection
Option "TVStandard" "1366x768"
EndSection
When you are done, save the file and reboot :)
[/quote]
What card do you have. I'm going to be changing displays as soon as I can, so I'm interested in this, as it didn't work for me. Would you be able to PM me your xorg logfile. It is in /var/logs/xorg.0.log, most likely.
Best Regards,
Richard.
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Made the suggested changes to my xorg.conf file, and now i get the 1366x768 resolution i've been wanting, but when I'm using KDE, the text to to small to read. When I open a web page, I can't read any text. When i set the resolution o 1280x720, a quarter of the KDE display is off the screen. Any suggestions, oh yeah, launched the nvidia setting app, but the I can't read any of the settings. I think we are getting close. I have LG 50' plasma model 50PC1DR-UA with my Nvidia 7600 GT video card (DVI to HDMI) connected.
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Made the suggested changes to my xorg.conf file, and now i get the 1366x768 resolution i've been wanting, but when I'm using KDE, the text to to small to read. When I open a web page, I can't read any text. When i set the resolution o 1280x720, a quarter of the KDE display is off the screen. Any suggestions, oh yeah, launched the nvidia setting app, but the I can't read any of the settings. I think we are getting close. I have LG 50' plasma model 50PC1DR-UA with my Nvidia 7600 GT video card (DVI to HDMI) connected.
You could try inserting a DPI option in the x.org config file. I am sorry that I don't recall in which section of the conf file it goes but I know that it does affect how big the fonts gets rendered.
I hope that give you a hint about what to google for... ;o)
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Made the suggested changes to my xorg.conf file, and now i get the 1366x768 resolution i've been wanting, but when I'm using KDE, the text to to small to read. When I open a web page, I can't read any text. When i set the resolution o 1280x720, a quarter of the KDE display is off the screen. Any suggestions, oh yeah, launched the nvidia setting app, but the I can't read any of the settings. I think we are getting close. I have LG 50' plasma model 50PC1DR-UA with my Nvidia 7600 GT video card (DVI to HDMI) connected.
Sounds like you're almost there. If you get the right resolution, then the hardware is capable of displaying it. The text size is no problem - somewhere (I can't remember where) in the xorg.conf, you can twiddle the default font size settings.
While you are getting there, and having to use the browser to Google and read the forum before you've got it licked, don't forget you can change font size in the browser settings, and the old standby - if you have a mouse with a middle scroll-wheel, then in the browser you can change font-size on the fly by holding down ctrl on the keyboard while you rotate the wheel.
Best Regards,
Richard.
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Still having the same problem with the microscopic font in KDE. I've played around with the DPI settings in the /usr/pluto/bin/Start_X_Wrapper.sh script to no avail. I am also no able to get any backgrounds in MCE. HELP PLEASE.
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Still having the same problem with the microscopic font in KDE. I've played around with the DPI settings in the /usr/pluto/bin/Start_X_Wrapper.sh script to no avail. I am also no able to get any backgrounds in MCE. HELP PLEASE.
startx -- -dpi 100(try different dpi values)
Have solved this problem for me multiple times but I must admit that I haven't used it in LMCE or in which startup script it should be put in LMCE... Sorry...
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Still having the same problem with the microscopic font in KDE. I've played around with the DPI settings in the /usr/pluto/bin/Start_X_Wrapper.sh script to no avail. I am also no able to get any backgrounds in MCE. HELP PLEASE.
Try setting up your display drivers properly: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Display_Drivers#Microscopic_fonts_in_KDE.