Hi, be kind as I'm a bit of a Linux noob. I recently bought a Asrock Ion 330 pc which uses an Atom 330 processor and the Nvidia Ion chipset. I mainly bought this as a replacement for my old Xbox as a media player and have decided to try out a few different software setups to find out the one that suites my needs. But it seems that LinuxMCE does not seem to like to PC, or I should say that Kubuntu 7.10 doesn't like it. I have tried both the full DVD and a stand alone CD of Kubuntu and they both drop out to the shell after 30 or so seconds of installing. Any ideas?
Cheers
Dave
Hi,
Your hardware is probably not supported in 710. Download Kubuntu 810 run it off the disk and see if that works for you.
The next release of LMCE is based on the 810 variant of Kubuntu.
Cheers.
Quote from: Dr Nick on July 12, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
Hi, be kind as I'm a bit of a Linux noob. I recently bought a Asrock Ion 330 pc which uses an Atom 330 processor and the Nvidia Ion chipset. I mainly bought this as a replacement for my old Xbox as a media player and have decided to try out a few different software setups to find out the one that suites my needs. But it seems that LinuxMCE does not seem to like to PC, or I should say that Kubuntu 7.10 doesn't like it. I have tried both the full DVD and a stand alone CD of Kubuntu and they both drop out to the shell after 30 or so seconds of installing. Any ideas?
Cheers
Dave
Hi,
LinuxMCE-0710 does not support the ASrock Ion 330 'out of the box' without several changes and updates. The LinuxMCE-0810 Alpha's do not have all the changes either but will in the near future - we have all of these changes underway here though and they will be in a 0810 build shortly (including vdpau support in MythTV and hopefully in the Orbiter/Xineplayer too).
All the best
Andrew
Thanks for the replies, I will keep my eye open for the next release.
the Asrock 330 is pretty well supported in 810. You have to install the latest nvidia driver manually, but it works pretty well.
Quote from: zug on July 12, 2009, 06:32:28 PM
the Asrock 330 is pretty well supported in 810. You have to install the latest nvidia driver manually, but it works pretty well.
Is this manual install described anywhere? The wiki possibly?
go to the wiki, search, type Display Driver then follow the instructions on downloading and installing the latest nVidia driver.
HI Andrew
I got my self 3 ASRock's and want to set them up as MD's can you please point me to a page or wiki explaining how to get this working?
As I am trying with no luck. It boots and then say can't find router and reboots..
Any help would be great..
PS: if I don;t have to install it on a disk that would be even better as there is no HDD in them. Cost savings... :)
Quote from: Dr Nick on July 12, 2009, 06:28:46 PM
Thanks for the replies, I will keep my eye open for the next release.
Just in case this is still of interest to you; We've have a special Forum offer on our NC30 entry level Cascade system which is based on the ASrock 330 chassis. Currently the NC30 is being offered with a generous rebate offer. See here for details http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=8880.0 (http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=8880.0)
All the best
Andrew
I also have one of those running as an MD. With my previous install dating from November 2009, I had to install Alsadrivers manually to get optical out running and I had to fiddle a bit with Nvidia drivers. Last weekend I did a complete fresh install of everything with the latest snapshot...and the MD runs smoothly out of the box. No need to do anything manually anymore..just but it up and let it run through the wizard...finish.
It would be great if you could put all of this info into Asus 330 ION page: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/AsRock_330_ION_HT
That way it would be nicely aggregated and accessible to you and others in the future.
JoakimL you created two Asrock 330 pages (other named http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/AsRock_ION_330_HT ) it is best to have only one page with all info, and if you want to have other title you need to MOVE existing page not create a new one. If anybody has any WIKI related questions feel free to ask me.
Quote from: maverick0815 on July 08, 2010, 04:33:02 PM
I also have one of those running as an MD. With my previous install dating from November 2009, I had to install Alsadrivers manually to get optical out running and I had to fiddle a bit with Nvidia drivers. Last weekend I did a complete fresh install of everything with the latest snapshot...and the MD runs smoothly out of the box. No need to do anything manually anymore..just but it up and let it run through the wizard...finish.
Our NC30 is an 'Entry Level' Core... we call them NerveCentre's. Its an 'entry level' NC that will comfortably support 2 MD's and its perfect for smaller homes/apartments or for anyone wanting to do some experimentation or 'dip there toe in the water' so to speak with HA. Apart from limited internal space for expansion options etc the real issue with NC30's, or indeed any Atom based Core's, is the Regen processing overhead - the Atom really is not ideal for this type of processing. However if your not worried about Regen's being slow beyond 2 MD's then this is a great way to build a very small, energy efficient hybrid Core.
Our Rebate offer allows customers to get a rebate on their NC30 against a bigger NerveCentre later - its makes it possible to start small and upgrade later...and then re-purpose the NC30 as an MD - and all at a more affordable cost for Forum members.
All the best
Andrew
Quote from: totallymaxed on July 10, 2010, 11:12:15 AM
Apart from limited internal space for expansion options etc the real issue with NC30's, or indeed any Atom based Core's, is the Regen processing overhead - the Atom really is not ideal for this type of processing.
All the best
Andrew
Have you added two NICs to NC30? Do you use USB as second NIC or is there space to add internal one? Which USB accessories (TV tuners, etc) work well with NC30?
Quote from: valent on July 10, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
Quote from: totallymaxed on July 10, 2010, 11:12:15 AM
Apart from limited internal space for expansion options etc the real issue with NC30's, or indeed any Atom based Core's, is the Regen processing overhead - the Atom really is not ideal for this type of processing.
All the best
Andrew
Have you added two NICs to NC30? Do you use USB as second NIC or is there space to add internal one? Which USB accessories (TV tuners, etc) work well with NC30?
We use a USB Nic (we use a OEM version of the Belkin USB 10/100 Ethernet Adapter) for the WAN side connection with the NC30, HDHomerun's for TV tuners & all the standard ZWave interfaces work fine. Anything that works USB wise on a normal Core will work fine too on the NC30.
All the best
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
Quote
the real issue with NC30's, or indeed any Atom based Core's, is the Regen processing overhead - the Atom really is not ideal for this type of processing
could u explain more about the regen processing, what exactly is it and what will i notice in every day use?
since my my mobo broke i am looking how to build a new core/hybrid and 1 of the key features would be energy efficienty, this is where the ion performce really well.
but if i have to wait 5 minutes after i press a key, its not worth it.
i am thinking about using 2 or 4 gb of ram will this change anything for the ion?
thanks
br,
Raymond
Quote from: RayBe on August 04, 2010, 09:05:33 AM
Hi Andrew,
Quote
the real issue with NC30's, or indeed any Atom based Core's, is the Regen processing overhead - the Atom really is not ideal for this type of processing
could u explain more about the regen processing, what exactly is it and what will i notice in every day use?
since my my mobo broke i am looking how to build a new core/hybrid and 1 of the key features would be energy efficiently, this is where the ion performance really well.
but if i have to wait 5 minutes after i press a key, its not worth it.
i am thinking about using 2 or 4 gb of ram will this change anything for the ion?
thanks
br,
Raymond
Whenever you make changes to your LinuxMCE (or Dianemo/Cascade) system that require the UI to be changed in some way...change of resolution on an MD or adding a new Room or Entertainment Area...or one that requires a new device configuration of some kind then a 'Full Regen' will be needed. This regen process runs on your Core and is a compute intensive task that will stress any of the current Atom class processors. A 4-5 MD configuration with a modest number of controlled devices (1 x IP Cam, 2 lights & 1 x rs232 controlled audio amplifier) can take in excess of 2 hours to regen on an Atom based Core. Now if your systems config is unlikely to change ever then you might accept this - however our experience is that systems do need regens now and then and in the end we have found that the regen processing bottleneck is in the end unlikely to be acceptable to many users.
The regen performance will not directly affect your everyday performance...but on an Atom based system your Core will essentially be unusable while a regen is being processed. Adding more RAM will not improve the regen performance.
All the best
Andrew
thanks Andrew for your clear explanation.
it helps me a lot.
do u recommend a specific cpu, i was thinking in the lines of:
AMD Athlon II X3 400e, Triple-core 2,2GHz
or
AMD Athlon II X2 235e, Dual-core 2,7GHz
wich is better, more cores or greater Ghz.
All the best,
Raymond
Quote from: RayBe on August 10, 2010, 10:08:09 AM
thanks Andrew for your clear explanation.
it helps me a lot.
do u recommend a specific cpu, i was thinking in the lines of:
AMD Athlon II X3 400e, Triple-core 2,2GHz
or
AMD Athlon II X2 235e, Dual-core 2,7GHz
wich is better, more cores or greater Ghz.
All the best,
Raymond
I would suggest using a mid priced dual core processor with a reasonable amount of cache - the AMD Athlon II X2 235e, Dual-core 2,7GHz would seem to meet that general spec pretty well. We build our Dianemo Core's using server grade motherboards/processors/memory but our Cascade product line uses consumer grade hardware (Intel based though).
My home core however is a Dianemo unit we no longer manufacture and is based on a Gigabyte 945 motherboard with a single Core 3Ghz Intel processor... it works fine though.
All the best
Andrew
Quote from: RayBe on August 10, 2010, 10:08:09 AM
wich is better, more cores or greater Ghz.
imho it makes logical sense to get > one cores, as we have a bunch of services that run in parallel (MySQL, DCERouter, UpdateMedia). I don't think you will find a big difference after going to > one core.
ok thanks all for your help,
would it make sense to get a intel instead of a amd system?
if so wich?
br
Raymond
Quote from: RayBe on August 10, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
ok thanks all for your help,
would it make sense to get a intel instead of a amd system?
if so wich?
br
Raymond
Why not look through the user setups pages on the Wiki - http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Category:User_Setups (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Category:User_Setups)
I agree with Posde that Dual Core is better...really there is little to choose between Intel and AMD in real world usage as a Core - don't get hung up on 'bleeding edge' processor features...you dont need them. The more important decision is to choose a motherboard that is well supported so that its various I/O features are working 'out of the box' so to speak. So looking at the user pages is a very good place to get that info.
The point i was making about my home system is that even though it is in no way 'bleeding' edge technology in terms of its motherboard/processor/memory it performs very well and until it dies from hardware failure i will not be replacing it. So choose a well supported board with a mid-priced/performance processor option and 2gig of RAM to start with and you will well served for some considerable time.
All the best
Andrew
Ok, thanks or your excelent advice, i was already looking into the user setups on the wiki :)
I wanna get a mobo with lots of sata and pcie connectors on it so it can be expanded if i need to,
Been interested in gigabyte 770 and 870 series as they have a lot of connectivity on them.
Thanks a lot,
I will post a wiki of my setup if i get it up and running
Br
Raymond