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Title: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: rthorntn on March 24, 2008, 01:59:24 AM
Hi All

Can I use my n800 as an orbiter only using bluetooth, my core has no space for a 802.11g card but it does have USB bluetooth?

I need to build up the core before trying this out.

Thanks for your time.

Richard
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: rthorntn on March 24, 2008, 02:17:34 AM
Assuming I use an 100m capable BT 2.0 EDR dongle on my core, the n800 supports this, can anyone help with a compatible USB dongle choice?
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: rthorntn on March 24, 2008, 03:10:41 AM
OK thanks to the guys in the forums it looks like this is a no-go, all to do with getting IP running over bluetooth...
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: royw on March 24, 2008, 04:03:04 AM
Howdy,

I don't think that the Maemo software supports what you are wanting.   I searched the forum for "'nokia n800 bluetooth"' and found:

  http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3465.msg18109#msg18109

HTH,
Roy
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: darrenmason on March 25, 2008, 12:04:04 AM
Richard,

Rather than adding a card to your core just add a cheap wireless access point to your network.
You should get better range and it will be easier to setup than adding another network interface in your core.

Regards
Darren
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: nite_man on March 26, 2008, 02:51:56 PM
Agree with Darren. You need WiFi router in your home network and not WiFi adapter on your core. Current implementation of Nokia's Orbiter needs WiFi.
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: hari on March 26, 2008, 05:23:04 PM
to be exact he wants a WiFi bridge (aka accesspoint), not router ;)

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: teedge77 on March 26, 2008, 08:35:12 PM
a wireless access point and wireless bridge arent the same. a wireless bridge only connects two or more networks together. a wireless access point connects to multiple users and routes between those users, and a wired network also, if attached to one. a wireless router would still work for him too.
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: hari on March 26, 2008, 10:53:52 PM
Quote from: teedge77 on March 26, 2008, 08:35:12 PM
a wireless access point and wireless bridge arent the same. a wireless bridge only connects two or more networks together. a wireless access point connects to multiple users and routes between those users, and a wired network also, if attached to one. a wireless router would still work for him too.
Of course an access point does other things besides like power management and association handling. But basically it's a wireless bridge. It connects a wired to a wireless lan on layer 2.
You can use two or more of them to bridge wired segments together, but thats another issue.
Yes, he could use a router with integrated access point for that, too. But why waste money on the routing part when it's used behind lmce?

best regards,
Hari
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: teedge77 on March 26, 2008, 11:00:34 PM
it really depends on his needs. i was just saying a wireless router would work for him. if he wants to connect more computers near the wireless router without using wireless, it would be possible then. its also hard to find a regular access point now sometimes if you go to the big box stores. its easy to find wireless routers. anyway...back to what i was saying. a router would still work if thats what he got. and although you can use two access points as bridges (if its supported by that access point or router), a bridge and an access point still arent exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: hari on March 26, 2008, 11:31:47 PM
Quote from: teedge77 on March 26, 2008, 11:00:34 PM
[...] a bridge and an access point still arent exactly the same thing.
A standard access point operates on iso/osi layer 2. Devices that interconnect networks on layer 2 are called bridges. Your switch is a multiport bridge and an access point is a wireless bridge.
Or do we have different understandings of layer two and three?

best regards,
Hari
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Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: teedge77 on March 27, 2008, 12:13:59 AM
 yes...an access point is a bridge from a wired to unwired network. i concede. i still have to stick with my original thing on the router. itd still work if he wants it. correct? im not gonna argue about what he should have without knowing what he wants/needs. just giving possibilities.
Title: Re: Nokia n800 orbiter bluetooth
Post by: hari on March 27, 2008, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: teedge77 on March 27, 2008, 12:13:59 AM
yes...an access point is a bridge from a wired to unwired network. i concede. i still have to stick with my original thing on the router. itd still work if he wants it. correct? im not gonna argue about what he should have without knowing what he wants/needs. just giving possibilities.

yeah, of course the router with integrated wireless bridge will work, too ;)
don't forget to deactivate dhcp on that device ;)

best regards,
Hari