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Title: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: erlkoenig on January 30, 2008, 12:15:36 AM
Hi, I'm new to LMCE and pretty new to Linux and of course I ran into trouble that I cannot find any answer to on the forum. Yet.

I ran the installation and got to the Installation Complete message with instruction to reboot.

On the first reboot, AV Wizard did not start, but Launch Manager started, though after a while it seemed to hang when "Activating Orbiter".

After a new reboot, AV Wizard did start, so I went through it - all ok, but then again Launch Manager hangs when "Activating Orbiter". The previous row says "Not starting device 20 onscreen orbiter binary not found" and something like "maybe because it is in the middle of installation".

What do I do? I left it for an hour or so (in case it was actually in the middle of installing), but nothing changed.
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: lon22 on January 30, 2008, 12:28:44 AM
What type of system did you install to? Did you notice any error messages during the install?
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: erlkoenig on January 30, 2008, 12:31:09 AM
It's a 386 (AMD). As for error messages, I left the installation going for a few hours as the instructions say and when I came back, it was ready. [edit] meaning that I did not check for errors...

BTW the version is Kubuntu 7.10 and LMCE 7.10
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: BOBuk on January 31, 2008, 01:05:08 PM
I also have the same problemwith 7.10 "Orbiter - Binary not found".

I previously ran Kubuntu 7.04 with LinixMCE 7.04 from CDs on a dedicated box in hybrid mode (core + Media Station).

I did a clean entire disk install of Kubuntu 7.10 OK and then a clean install of LinuxMCE 7.10 from CD iso's. Requested a dedicated LinuxMCE server and after installation I could not start the On screen Orbiter (Binary not found).

I repeated the clean install of Kubuntu 7.10 and LinuxMCE 7.10 this time as a Kubuntu PC with a manual start of LinuxMCE, but I still get the same error after the second clean installation.

BTW - The CD installation for 7.10 (using the 7.04 instructions) tells you to right click the MCE_installer for the Kubuntu LinuxmCE install package but there is NOT link for this in the right click dropdown. The only way I could install this was to copy the CD ISO files to the Linux hard drive and follow the manual instructions. This is a hard start for a new user.


Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: dan g on January 31, 2008, 01:52:42 PM
QuoteBTW - The CD installation for 7.10 (using the 7.04 instructions) tells you to right click the MCE_installer for the Kubuntu LinuxmCE install package but there is NOT link for this in the right click dropdown. The only way I could install this was to copy the CD ISO files to the Linux hard drive and follow the manual instructions. This is a hard start for a new user.

the page for installing a new 0710 will be updated imediatly we release it.
indeed the current page has the steps for LMCE and kubuntu 0704.

the process of installing the 0710 and betas is similar to 0704 and i may say 'natural', because you only need to install a clean kubuntu 0710, don't apply the security updates, download the CD's and install LMCE.
the installer it's found on CD1.
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: dan g on January 31, 2008, 01:55:49 PM
QuoteI also have the same problemwith 7.10 "Orbiter - Binary not found".
please attach the /var/log/mce_installer.log files

btw, did you take a look already? i installed millions  ;D of LMCE and never saw that.
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: Nifty360 on February 11, 2008, 05:57:39 AM
I am currently having the same issue described here, to the "t."  Was this ever resolved?  If so, how? I had to do a manual install on the computer I am using. Same exact steps as the original poster.

Any help would be much appreciated.  Excited to play with LinuxMCE, still pretty n00b with linux.
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: TimmyB on February 12, 2008, 07:09:35 AM
I am having the same problem mentioned.

The only way I am getting to the internet right now is clicking on "open admin website" in the mce launch manager.

Also I have this computer on a router connected to a windows box to split a cable internet and I keep gettting messages poping up on the windows computer about the network connection. I dont want my linux mce computer to be a server or any of that stuff, all I want is to hook it up to a tv and use it as a media center and also be able to use it as a regular linux box.

I am about to just reinstall ubuntu, let it erase all the my personal files and forget about lmce.


Quote from: dan evans on January 31, 2008, 01:55:49 PM
QuoteI also have the same problemwith 7.10 "Orbiter - Binary not found".
please attach the /var/log/mce_installer.log files

btw, did you take a look already? i installed millions  ;D of LMCE and never saw that.

If you wouldent mind telling me how to do that I would gladly post it for you.

Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: gibi on February 12, 2008, 11:41:09 PM
I am having the same problem.  I dont get the video wizard...it just skips to the launcher then a blank grey screen with a pop up ever so often that say orbiter cannot activate and transparency problem.  Any advise would be great.
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: TimmyB on February 13, 2008, 06:57:57 AM
Here is the bottom half of one of the install logs that I could find.


Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  alacarte compiz compiz-gnome deskbar-applet evolution evolution-exchange
  evolution-plugins fast-user-switch-applet firefox-gnome-support gdm gimp
  gimp-print gimp-python gnome-applets gnome-control-center gnome-panel
  gnome-session gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal libdeskbar-tracker
  libedataserverui1.2-8 libexchange-storage1.2-3 libgimp2.0
  libgnome-window-settings1 nautilus nautilus-cd-burner openoffice.org
  openoffice.org-base openoffice.org-evolution openoffice.org-gnome
  openoffice.org-gtk sound-juicer ubuntu-desktop xsane
The following packages will be upgraded:
  msttcorefonts
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  akregator avahi-autoipd avahi-daemon bind9-host cupsys cupsys-bsd
  cupsys-client cupsys-common dnsutils e2fslibs e2fsprogs findutils firefox
  flashplugin-nonfree foo2zjs ghostscript ghostscript-x gtk-qt-engine
  hwdb-client-common hwdb-client-kde kaddressbook karm kate kcontrol
  kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a
  kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kdeprint
  kdesktop kdesudo kdm kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmail kmailcvt
  kmenuedit knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontact korganizer
  ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd kwin language-pack-en
  libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
  libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 libavahi-core5 libavahi-qt3-1 libbind9-30
  libblkid1 libc6 libc6-i686 libcairo2 libcomerr2 libcupsimage2 libcupsys2
  libdb4.4 libflac++6 libflac8 libgs8 libkcal2b libkdepim1a libkleopatra1
  libkmime2 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libksieve0 libktnef1
  liblwres30 libmimelib1c2a libmysqlclient15off libnm-util0 libpango1.0-0
  libpango1.0-common libpcre3 libperl5.8 libpng12-0 libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler2
  libpq5 libpulse0 libqt3-mt libqt4-core libqt4-gui libsmbclient libsnmp-base
  libsnmp10 libss2 libssl0.9.8 libuuid1 libxfont1 libxml2
  linux-headers-2.6.22-14 linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic
  linux-restricted-modules-common mysql-common networkstatus
  openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core
  openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-java-common
  openoffice.org-kde openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-style-crystal
  openoffice.org-style-human openoffice.org-writer openssl perl perl-base
  perl-modules perl-suid poppler-utils python-libxml2 python-qt4
  python-qt4-dbus python-uno ttf-opensymbol tzdata xserver-xorg-core
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 138 downgraded, 34 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/261MB of archives.
After unpacking 94.7MB disk space will be freed.
E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: Isengrim on February 23, 2008, 01:37:45 PM
I have same issue after installing "LinuxMCE-CDs-0710Beta3-amd64" on top of "kubuntu-7.10-desktop-amd64"
Linux MCE Launch Manager just holds at "Activating Orbiter"
Hitting the "Activate Orbiter" button doesn't help either...

System specs:

AMD X2 5000+ BE
Kingston ValueR. DDR2 PC6400 2048MB CL5 (2x1024MB)
ASUS GEFORCE 8600GT 512MB SILENT
Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3
Corsair Powersupply 450W
Hauppauge! WinTV-PVR-500MCE
NEC AD-7200S
Western Digital Caviar XL WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200rpm 16MB SATA2
iOne Scorpius P20 Wireless Keyboard Silver, svenskt
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: vgtsfe266 on February 24, 2008, 03:42:44 PM
Same here.  I was good to go on 704 also.  Used UI2 w/Alpha Blending on 704 with no problems.  Multiple installs of 710 from CD and still cannot get it to work.

System specs:

AMD X2 5000+
GEFORCE 6150SE
Hauppauge HVR-1600
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: ninerz49 on March 24, 2008, 06:54:38 PM
Same issue here, upon boot up, get error message that states cannot activate #20  probably because...
then i cannot also get the orbiter to activate using the button, this is installed on amd 2800 (64bit) with the kubuntu 710 beta 4 install with the 2 cds
Any ideas?

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: dolony on March 27, 2008, 07:15:07 PM
Is there a fix for this?
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: mikeciz on March 30, 2008, 08:47:52 PM
My orbiter won't activate either. I just get a blank screen with the Linux MCE Launch Mananger on it.
The last few messages in the window are:
date... Generated skin successfully
date... Starting device 20 OnScreen Orbiter
date... Timeout waiting for device registration
date... Activating Orbiter...

Nothing happens after that. I've updated to the latest Nvidia drivers. I'm using a GeForce 6600. I've tried both UI2 with and without alpha and get the same thing. The only difference was that with alpha the background was gray. Any ideas out there?

I'm using the lastest Beta 4 (i386).
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: amainie on April 06, 2008, 12:29:04 AM
Same here. My first experience with Linux MCE  :(. The only suspicious parts from the log imho are:


The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  libc6 libc6-i686
0 upgraded, 44 newly installed, 2 downgraded, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/57.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 167MB of additional disk space will be used.
E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
Try 0 failed with exit code 100
...
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  libc6 libc6-i686
0 upgraded, 44 newly installed, 2 downgraded, 0 to remove and 70 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/57.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 167MB of additional disk space will be used.
E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
Try 1 failed with exit code 100
Package installed successfully
...
rm: cannot remove directory `/tmp/tmp.EVLCg15059/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/volatile': Device or resource busy
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages will be upgraded:
  liblircclient0
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
  cupsys cupsys-bsd cupsys-client cupsys-common e2fslibs e2fsprogs findutils
  firefox foo2zjs ghostscript ghostscript-x hwdb-client-common hwdb-client-kde
  kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdesudo language-pack-en language-pack-kde-en
  libblkid1 libc6 libc6-i686 libcairo2 libcomerr2 libcompress-zlib-perl
  libcupsimage2 libcupsys2 libflac++6 libflac8 libgs8 libmysqlclient15off
  libnm-util0 libpango1.0-0 libpango1.0-common libpcre3 libperl5.8 libpng12-0
  libpoppler-qt2 libpoppler2 libqt3-mt libqt4-core libqt4-gui libsmbclient
  libss2 libssl0.9.8 libuuid1 linux-headers-2.6.22-14
  linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-14-generic linux-restricted-modules-common
  mysql-common openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-common openoffice.org-core
  openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-java-common
  openoffice.org-kde openoffice.org-math openoffice.org-style-crystal
  openoffice.org-style-human openoffice.org-writer openssl perl perl-base
  perl-modules perl-suid poppler-utils python-uno ttf-opensymbol tzdata
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 71 downgraded, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/197MB of archives.
After unpacking 8188kB disk space will be freed.
E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes
MESSAGE: Installation Finished


Anyone able to help out?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: mikeciz on April 06, 2008, 06:44:54 PM
I've tried re-installing but it still won't work. I also get flashing on the top of the screen "OrbiterGL". It is written on the title bar of a program window. There's no bottom part of the window. It flashes in for about half a second then goes away for about 4 seconds. Then repeats. ???
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: Jiffyman on April 08, 2008, 12:51:16 AM
O.k. I think I got the answer to this one if you are running ATI graphics that is. (MIGHT WORK FOR NVIDIA CARDS)

1. Install Kubuntu 7.04-7.10

2. If you have any video drivers enabled by "RESTRICTED DRIVERS MANAGER" disable them

3. Download Envy and Install

4. Use Envy to install ATI drivers and reboot

5. Install LinuxMCE 7.04-7.10

6. After install restart your computer and run LMCE and hopefully orbiter will start for you.

Orbiter would not start on my computer because of an outdated driver provided through ubuntu repositories.

Note: My ATI card is an integrated Readon X1250
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: totallymaxed on April 08, 2008, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: Jiffyman on April 08, 2008, 12:51:16 AM
O.k. I think I got the answer to this one if you are running ATI graphics that is. (MIGHT WORK FOR NVIDIA CARDS)

1. Install Kubuntu 7.04-7.10

2. If you have any video drivers enabled by "RESTRICTED DRIVERS MANAGER" disable them

3. Download Envy and Install

4. Use Envy to install ATI drivers and reboot

5. Install LinuxMCE 7.04-7.10

6. After install restart your computer and run LMCE and hopefully orbiter will start for you.

Orbiter would not start on my computer because of an outdated driver provided through ubuntu repositories.

Note: My ATI card is an integrated Readon X1250

**The procedure below has been added to the Wiki now here http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Display_Drivers#Installing_The_ATI_Driver (http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Display_Drivers#Installing_The_ATI_Driver)

Here's the procedure I use for setting up an ATI X1250 MD. Currently the the AVwizard in 0710 does not configure ATI cards properly so you need to to do some manual steps to get things working.

Step 1

Add the MD in the normal way (ie plug it into the network and let it add itself). Let it reboot and then it should run the AVwizard. Choose the options you want - output connector, resolution, refresh.... UI2 with Overlay etc etc and complete the wizard. Now the screen will return to a console screen and will after 5-10 mins will try to run the setup Wizard... but the setup Wizard will run very slowly and the video of  'Sarah' will not play smoothly. This is because the ATI drivers are not installed yet and the X driver is set to 'vesa'.

Step 2

From another machine ssh into the partially installed MD. Do the following from the console;


sudo su - <return>
ssh moonNN <return> (**where the NN is the device number for the MD we're configuring**)


Now we're logged into the MD we are configuring as 'root' and we can install the ATI drivers and configure Xorg.conf;

Firstly make sure our sources.list is up to date:

apt-get update <return>


Now lets install the ATI driver and packages;


apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager <return>

Answer 'Y' to installing new packages then do the following steps;


apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx <return>
depmod -a <return>


So far so good... now we have the ATI drivers installed! (the current driver in the repos is not the latest ATI release an updated driver will be packaged soon though). Now we have to configure Xorg to use it! Do the steps below;

I use the console text editor 'joe' below but you can use whichever you prefer ('nano' is installed by default for example);

joe /etc/X11/xorg.conf <return>


Now you are editing the xorg.conf of your MD and the only change you need to make is to the 'Device' section. In the 'Device' section you will see a line thats says;


Driver          "vesa"


Change the string 'vesa' to 'fglrx' which is the name of the ATI driver. The updated driver line should look like below;


Driver          "fglrx"


Now save the changes you have made to xorg.conf.

Now reboot the MD from the console with;


reboot <return>


The MD will now reboot normally and the setup wizard will run again.... but this time the video and the Ui will run smoothly as the ATI driver is installed and confgured.

Now currently the ATI driver will not run UI2 with transparency but it will run UI2 with overlay very nicely indeed. There are two small caveats to running UI2 with Overlay currently with the ATI driver in that the 'Compass Rose' on screen menu for selecting DVD chapters, Lighting levels etc etc and the 'Zoom & Aspect ratio' screen when playing Video do not draw correctly - the bit maps for the menus do not display but the menus do work. We hope to fix this soon though.

Anyway hopefully the above will get you up and running on the X1250 ;-)

All the best

Andrew
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: totallymaxed on April 08, 2008, 09:27:56 AM
Quote from: vgtsfe266 on February 24, 2008, 03:42:44 PM
Same here.  I was good to go on 704 also.  Used UI2 w/Alpha Blending on 704 with no problems.  Multiple installs of 710 from CD and still cannot get it to work.

System specs:

AMD X2 5000+
GEFORCE 6150SE
Hauppauge HVR-1600

Hmmm... thats strange as we have no problems with the nVidia 6150 chipset on our motherboards under LinuxMCE-0710.

Andrew
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: totallymaxed on April 08, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: mikeciz on March 30, 2008, 08:47:52 PM
My orbiter won't activate either. I just get a blank screen with the Linux MCE Launch Mananger on it.
The last few messages in the window are:
date... Generated skin successfully
date... Starting device 20 OnScreen Orbiter
date... Timeout waiting for device registration
date... Activating Orbiter...

Nothing happens after that. I've updated to the latest Nvidia drivers. I'm using a GeForce 6600. I've tried both UI2 with and without alpha and get the same thing. The only difference was that with alpha the background was gray. Any ideas out there?

I'm using the lastest Beta 4 (i386).

We have never tested an nVidia 660 card so I cant help other than to say that it sounds like it might not be configured correctly by the AVwizard. We have tested nVidia 6200, 7300, 6100, 6150, 7050 and all work reliably. Try one of these cards/onboard chips if you want a simple fix (the 6200tc can be had here in the UK for around £20 so its affordable).

All the best

Andrew
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: Sheidi on April 08, 2008, 12:52:15 PM
Well, postin here also and saying that same issue here with gf8600 and 7.10 installation...
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: hermanvh on April 10, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
I 'm having the same problem: Orbiter won't activate with Intel i810 graphics UI2 with overlay. Also the UI diagnostic tool does not start.

Any suggestions?

Herman

BTW: release 7.10b4, 7.04 worked fine
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: totallymaxed on April 10, 2008, 11:40:45 PM
Quote from: hermanvh on April 10, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
I 'm having the same problem: Orbiter won't activate with Intel i810 graphics UI2 with overlay. Also the UI diagnostic tool does not start.

Any suggestions?

Herman

BTW: release 7.10b4, 7.04 worked fine

This is fixed in versions after 0710-beta4

Andrew
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: hermanvh on April 11, 2008, 08:55:28 AM
OK, thanks Andrew, I will wait for that release.
Title: Re: Orbiter won't activate
Post by: mikeciz on April 24, 2008, 04:24:26 PM
Quote from: totallymaxed on April 08, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: mikeciz on March 30, 2008, 08:47:52 PM
My orbiter won't activate either. I just get a blank screen with the Linux MCE Launch Mananger on it.
The last few messages in the window are:
date... Generated skin successfully
date... Starting device 20 OnScreen Orbiter
date... Timeout waiting for device registration
date... Activating Orbiter...

Nothing happens after that. I've updated to the latest Nvidia drivers. I'm using a GeForce 6600. I've tried both UI2 with and without alpha and get the same thing. The only difference was that with alpha the background was gray. Any ideas out there?

I'm using the lastest Beta 4 (i386).

We have never tested an nVidia 660 card so I cant help other than to say that it sounds like it might not be configured correctly by the AVwizard. We have tested nVidia 6200, 7300, 6100, 6150, 7050 and all work reliably. Try one of these cards/onboard chips if you want a simple fix (the 6200tc can be had here in the UK for around £20 so its affordable).

All the best

Andrew

Thanks Andrew. I ordered a nVidia 6200 AGP card and reinstalled. I was able to get the 720P display to work nicely, but I still get the same gray screen with "OpenGL" flashing in a title bar intermittently. This is pretty frustrating! Also, neither of my tuners are recognized during installation from what I can tell. Anybody have any suggestions? Could it be my motherboard is a bit too old?

My PC is a Shuttle AK12A
768meg memory (If I remember correctly)
Nvidia 6200 AGP card with 512meg (My motherboard bios setting is at 4xAGP and 256 meg max)
AMD 1.4Ghz
Avermedia 150
Avermedia 180 (HD)