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Title: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on November 22, 2011, 09:30:33 PM
Chaps,

My system is just about becoming operational, and I noticed that when watching TV, there is no longer the qwerty keyboard of days gone by, which is great! However...

How do you set your recordings? I used to highlight the program in the guide, and press "r", which obviously can't be done any more.

Of course this could be done via mythweb from a computer, or using a keyboard on the MD, but I just wondered if I was missing a trick with the touchscreen orbiter.

Incidentally, what's going to happen with the big blank space, looks like something exciting should be there :) Will the guide be appearing here?

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on November 23, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
This feature should not have leaked into 0810, but it did.

You really should go 1004, as the middle space is a touchable area so you can see MythTV's display. This is a temporary measure until either we fully integrate more of MythTV's screens as orbiter displays or we write a new PVR and create orbiter displays for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAefg2z0cEg .. you can see an early version of this.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on November 23, 2011, 09:38:54 AM
I assume this is why I cannot get back to fullscreen after I have pressed "guide" as well? If you don't me asking, are there any plans to restore the 810 orbiter to its former glory?

The thought of going to 1004 really makes me anxious. I was keen to start enjoying the system, and have spent a fair amount of time slowly but surely been getting my 810 system back on its feet seeing as it is now a final realease.

My major concern is that I will be going through the same frustrations as the early 0710 and 0810 releases, and I simply won't be in a position to use the system as it was intended.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on November 23, 2011, 02:11:48 PM
Unfortunately, since 0810 and 1004 use the same database at the moment, there is no way for me to "restore" 0810 without affecting 1004.

So this is what I will do this weekend:

* Make a ticket and ask merkur2k to build a new version of MythTV Player which has the needed changes
* Add a few small changes to make the guide usable.

as for 1004, I understand your reticence. The only thing I can tell you, is that there is a very good chance that you'll have a much easier time dealing with 1004, than you will with 0810.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on November 23, 2011, 07:33:52 PM
I really appreciate your understanding.

In my opinion, it is important that the functionality/stability of 0810 is retained, if only from the point of view of the impression it gives new users coming along and wanting to try out the final, which hasn't been out that long at the end of the day.

I am (pleasantly!) surprised regarding your comments on 1004, and with that in mind, I may give it a whirl.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on November 23, 2011, 08:48:17 PM
Yes, I know it hasn't been out that long, unfortunately, it took us SO long to release it, that it is no longer a viable candiate for installation in any case. Hardware has moved on.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on November 23, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
I see your point.

I was going to ask some further 1004 questions regarding what's working, what's not etc, but I see there is a pre-existing thread in a similar vein.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 07, 2011, 10:33:02 PM
Well well well, what was I worried about :)

The myth remote screen on my tablet appears to be exactly the same as 810 - you said the middle space was a touchable area? Am I missing something?

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on December 07, 2011, 10:34:05 PM
was scrot installed?

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 07, 2011, 10:54:59 PM
scrot was not installed on the core, no. Install it?
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on December 07, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
very strange, it is part of the package definition and in the package database, it should have been installed. Yes.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 07, 2011, 11:19:23 PM
Before I install it manually, is there anything I can probe/check/do at all from the point of view of finding out why it didn't install automatically? Or shall we just put it down as "one of those things"?
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 09, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
Scrot is installed on the core/all the MDs, and it has made the myth screen appear on the orbiters, however...

It does not appear to be "touchable", and is just a non-interactive display. Is this how you are supposed to set recordings?

Also, is the guide still supposed to pop up on the MD, or should it just be in orbiter? Currently I see the guide on both the orbiter AND the MD.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on December 09, 2011, 03:20:21 PM
Scrot is now attached as a depedency as needed on the mythTV player so future installations will not need a manual installation (you do not have the game player installed most likely, where scrot IS a depedency, so it wasn't installed for you already)

MythTV's guide is touchable to a point, they made a few bugs however, and so when a popup appears (when asking a question etc.), the touches go to the items below it.

I know this works, because I use it every day. The buttons below also work.

And yes, until I port more of mythTV's UI to orbiter, the guide shows up on both orbiter and the TV.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 12, 2011, 12:02:03 PM
I appreciate what you are saying; the area ceases to become "touchable" when a pop-up is displayed, but I cannot get any response even when it's just the guide. So still can't see how to set recordings, but I'll continue to play with it.

Maybe something to do with the fact that I am not using a "proper" orbiter? Will get an N800 back up and running and see if I have any more success.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on December 12, 2011, 04:14:39 PM
No, it works with everything. I Asked a couple of devs to test ,and they were able to use it just fine. Just to be sure, are you testing under 0810 or 1004?

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 12, 2011, 07:00:52 PM
Oh. The guide is definitely not touchable for me. I have been refreshing the screen. I'm on 1004 now.

Anything to do with the fact that I had to install scrot manually? Anything else that might be missing?

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: daballiemo on December 12, 2011, 09:10:03 PM
Same here, installed scrot manually
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on December 12, 2011, 09:13:44 PM
what version are you running?

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on December 12, 2011, 09:31:51 PM
0.8-11 for me.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on December 12, 2011, 09:33:51 PM
oh no, i was asking for his version of LMCE. Scrot just takes care of bringing the image in. There is code in the MythTV Player that transmits the presses to the mythTV player.

If you hit the arrow keys on the bottom, does anything happen?

If not, there are bigger problems happening...this is very strange because it works here on our setups.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: purps on January 05, 2012, 02:08:14 PM
I am so sorry, never saw this post.

I installed (1004) in November sometime, have never updated - stupid question: how do I find out my version? I assume it's in web admin somewhere...

Yes the arrow keys and other buttons all work, it's just this new myth screen.

Cheers,
Matt.
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 11, 2012, 11:46:33 PM
Hi Guys

Now I have a little bit more time on my hands, and I am getting fed up of mrs and kids hastling I am having a go at getting my LMCE setup going.

I am running 1004 and I did an update a few days ago.

I have Mythtv working fine but I am having issues with the guide.

When I clcik on guide on the IOS orbiters, the guide flashes onto the TV screen and disappears, I get a blank box on orbiter.

When I use the Windows Orbiter to select guide I see it for a little longer on the TV screen and then goes and again the orbiter does not show the guide.

Scrot is installed and is the latest version.

Any tips? This is a bit of a pain for me.

Regards
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 12, 2012, 10:30:40 PM
Hi Guys

I have just done an update and still no guide on the orbiters. Also the guide only flashes onto screen for a few seconds then disappears.

Regards
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on January 12, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
is the scrot utility being installed?

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 12, 2012, 11:14:09 PM
Yes says scrot is installed and is already latest version.

Regards
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on January 12, 2012, 11:16:55 PM
That is _very_ strange. Have you done an sqlcvs update of designer lately?

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 15, 2012, 09:19:21 PM
As I dont know what that is or how to do it I guess probably not.

How would I go about doing that?

Regards
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on January 15, 2012, 10:47:33 PM
go to the web admin, go to advanced > sqlcvs > update... select all of the designer repository, then press update.

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 16, 2012, 10:20:23 PM
I have gone to that page. Selected check all on designer and clicked next but it just goes back to the same page without telling me if it has actually done anything or not.

Does this mean its not working orhas done it?
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: tschak909 on January 16, 2012, 10:39:44 PM
make sure to disable any popup blockers for the web admin. It will launch a new window with sqlcvs output. (Usually just, "Success.")

-Thom
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 17, 2012, 12:05:22 AM
Hi

That works now. I am guessing I need to re-generate the orbiters for changes to take effect?

Regards
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: Marie.O on January 19, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
fibres,

it probably means you have a popup blocker ;)
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 22, 2012, 12:48:48 PM
Hi guys

After disabling popup blocker the SQLcvs upgrade works, however even after a number of orbiter regents and such I still have no guide on orbiter and the one on screen flashes up and disappears.

I am going to reinstall my system today as I am preparing to go into pre production system and want to have a clean start. I'll let you all know how it goes after reinstall!

Regards
Title: Re: How to set myth recordings using a touchscreen orbiter (Android tablet)
Post by: fibres on January 26, 2012, 11:15:26 AM
Hi guys.

Well I did a fresh install and the guide comes up fine and displays on the orbiter too!

Don't know how well it works asi don't have any guide data, I'm in middle or organising my channels and adding the xmltv ids. I'll post back once that's done.

Regards