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Not really.  When the IPAQ comes in range, you will still see a message on the TV saying something to the efffect of "I found a new bluetooth device.  Is this a phone?  Should I install the software?  If so, pick the user to whom it belongs."

Choosing to install the software won't hurt anything.  The system will do an "OBEX PUSH", which is how it tries to install the software.  My guess is your IPAQ will ignore it.  Even if it does accept the message, the software won't run since the software is Symbian, and your IPAQ is Windows CE.  All that would happen is it would add the IPAQ to the database as a phone, and then the media director will continually try to connect to it via Bluetooth--and fail.

If you want to use your IPAQ, the real solution is just to run the Windows CE version of the Orbiter -- that's meant for that purpose.  It specifically supports PDA's.  You will need to turn on wifi so the IPAQ can get an IP address and talk on the network.  Then bring up a web browser in the IPAQ, navigate to the Pluto Admin web site, choose the link to install the orbiter software, and pick the ce version.

You'll need to add an orbiter as well.  The only problem is that we haven't yet created the new PDA-size screens for series 2.  Our designer program, the tool we use to create the GUI's, allows you to create a different layout for 3:4 (ie normal vga), vs 4:3 (what pda's use).  In our series 1 we had both.  At the moment, we only have the 3:4 layout--which means the screen won't look right.

Doing a 4:3 layout for pda's has been a low priority for us since, now that we have the bluetooth mobile phones, everybody likes those better.  The tactile feel of physical buttons is easier for most people than a small-ish touch-screen on a pda.  But eventually we will do a 4:3 layout for pda's as well.

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Do you have a palm version of the mobile orbiter software?  

Ultimately the question is, can the treo 650 be used as a mobile orbiter with all the cool bluetooth features (detection.)  I'm assuming the same answer as the CE response....

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No, sorry.  No Palm version.  Orbiter only runs on Linux, Windows, Windows CE, and Symbian--although it is Ansi C++ and may run on other OS's.  Eventually we'll spread out to Palm and other proprietary OS's, like Motorola's.  But for now our focus is on completing what we have and not spreading ourselves too thin.

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You'll need to add an orbiter as well.  The only problem is that we haven't yet created the new PDA-size screens for series 2.  Our designer program, the tool we use to create the GUI's, allows you to create a different layout for 3:4 (ie normal vga), vs 4:3 (what pda's use).  In our series 1 we had both.  At the moment, we only have the 3:4 layout--which means the screen won't look right.

Doing a 4:3 layout for pda's has been a low priority for us since, now that we have the bluetooth mobile phones, everybody likes those better.  The tactile feel of physical buttons is easier for most people than a small-ish touch-screen on a pda.  But eventually we will do a 4:3 layout for pda's as well.
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Heres a dumb idea.....couldnt ya just rotate the image 90 degrees one way or another and get the same result....just would have to hold the PDA 90 degrees off center.  I dunno, just was looking ay my PDA and tought it may work, dunno if its easier or harder to implement. I know that for the slide on camera that I use with the PDA, I have to turn it 90 degrees to use it.  If Im not making myself clear I can post an image of what Im talking about.

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Hi,

Yeah, that would work fine.  I actually just added that as a new size/aspect ratio to our database.  As soon as your system auto-updates to 2.0.0.14 it will have that new database entry.  Then, you'll be able to go into the Pluto Admin website, choose Advanced, Devices, locate the PDA, and change the data parameter "PK_Size" to 4 (which is 320x240).

Of course, this is just a really bad hack to get you to see it.  All that it will do is scale the screen down to 320x240.  The buttons will be so small you'll hardly be able to read them.

The real solution is to create what, in Designer, is called a new "Criteria" specifically for the PDA.  This is what we did in v1, and this is what we do now to distinguish the tablet and the phone.  With the PDA Criteria, we can re-arrange the screen, and place less buttons on there.  So, the DVD remote on the tablet may have several advanced buttons and a more broad layout with big cover art, the PDA may have only the basic buttons and put the advanced options and cover art on a separate tab.  That's what we will do eventually, but for now, I just added a new scaling value in the Size table.

The 2.0.0.14 upgrade should be up next Thursday or Friday.  If you change the size to '4' before the upgrade posts, then OrbiterGen won't generate anything for the pda since it won't know how to handle that size.

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