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Frostcall

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2009, 09:24:46 am »
I don't close on the house until Feb 27th, so they wont let me play with the alarm panel until then.  I already asked ;) 
I have not purchased anything special for it yet.
I know I can get a GC-100-12 or 18, but that's $300 and I'd like to avoid extra cost if possible. 
I agree that the majority of new homes I've seen have the DSC 1616 and I think it's well worth figuring out for the project.  I have no issues cracking open the books to figure out how to make it run even if it takes a while.  It will be well worth it in the end.


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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2009, 03:22:04 pm »
yep, i looked into the gc100 and saw that price also.  The DSC it-100 is $53 and it makes more sense for me to buy that considering my alarm monitoring in included in my HOA fees.  I read somewhere on here where another DSC 1616 linuxmce user had the same predicament, where spending $300+ for wireless sensors for a large home would cost over one thousand $ because PIR's were not sensible for at home monitoring.  I assume, like my home, that every door and window upstairs and downstairs has sensors (i have 35 windows and 4 doors), so  it is senseless to spend money on a additional unmonitored system(monitor by yourself). Can anyone of you computer brains read my prior replies and tell me which method is best suitable to get the IT-100 working with Linuxmce?  I'm a newbie at linux period, but i'm willing to learn, just point me in the right direction.  ???   

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2009, 07:18:50 pm »
The issue is that none of them have an IT-100 to test things out, so everything they tell you is basically theoretical. So, we must do it ourselves, or, we must buy them a DSC 1616 with a IT-100 so they can figure it out :)   I'll start working on it at the end of the month when I close.

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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2009, 08:06:00 pm »
Is this something that can be achieved through remote access to a computer connected to a pc1616 and a it-100 or is it necessary to have the units on hand? ???

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2009, 08:49:53 pm »
I'm sure some work could be done via remote access, but It's always nice to have hands on.  From the look of things, the PC1616, PC1832 and the PC1864 all work the same way.  The 1616 and the 1832 can be had for just over $120.  Depending on my level of success, I may be willing to send someone the panel to get it working.  But that will be in the future, I think the few of us can get this thing working. 

My main goal for LinuxMCE in my new home is using it for a security system and VOIP.  I'd like to be able to remotely monitor my security cameras (analog, not IP based), monitor and control my lighting, security panel and in home audio.  The video media is great and all, but I actually read a lot more than I watch TV. 
« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 08:53:22 pm by Frostcall »

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2009, 05:58:44 am »

http://www.nabble.com/DSC-IT-100-td15035060.html
some info from the MisterHouse guys.  I'll probably open up a dev thread in a few weeks when I get my IT-100 in the mail.

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« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2009, 04:28:25 pm »
I just got my IT-100 in the mail.  Is anyone still working on this, or am I starting from scratch?

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« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2009, 04:51:22 pm »
I can only speak for myself, i haven't gotten around to installing my it-100 due to the fact i haven't been at that home very often lately.  But some time ago i saw a device template for the DSC 5401 (seemed to be originally from misterhouse) which from what i was told is the same thing except the it-100 has more capabilities.  I was also told that the template with some small tweaks may work for the it-100.  How true that is, i don't know.  That may be a good starting point though.  By the way be prepared to reset the panel to factory settings in order to get it to work.

http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?p=851715
http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=124466
« Last Edit: June 04, 2009, 04:56:42 pm by compaqpresario »

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2009, 11:45:22 pm »
http://www.baranharper.com/pdfs/dsc/it-100%252520developers%252520guide.pdf

very straightforward protocol, hex codes in ascii. Looks like a very good interface module for lmce integration.

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« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2009, 12:31:32 am »
Yes, I've been reading up on the developer's guide and it does seem very straightforward.  I've just got to get my feet wet with creating a GSD.

I'm soaking up as much from the wiki as I can and I'll try to get started later tonight, perhaps.

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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2009, 12:50:47 pm »
hello  guys,

i have same questions ,   in Brazil this  panel and gc-100   is very expensive .

i try to build a  simple circuit that control 32 sensors and have capacity to control  32 devices .

the circuit is attached to core via lpt port  ,   and the price of parts  in brazil is  USD 25,00 .

now a have to create a template .

the instructions to build the cricuit:

 http://br.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http://www.rogercom.com.br/pparalela/Dsp32es.htm&lp=pt_en&btnTrUrl=Traduzir




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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2009, 08:29:41 am »
First, you should set up a complete 8.10 system, if you haven't already. Please do not do any dev work on 0710.

You should set up a builder and run one complete pass:

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Building_LinuxMCE_0810

This will set up all the build dependencies you need.

You should then install http://www.localeconcept.com/pub/devtools.tar.gz into /usr/local/bin

Afterwards, install pluto-sql2cpp and pluto-dcegen

you can then check out a copy of the SVN into i suggest /home/src/

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sudo mkdir -p /home/src
cd /home/src
svn co http://svn.linuxmce.org/svn/branches/LinuxMCE-0810
cd LinuxMCE-0810/src

You should then make your device template. Specifying the type of device, what it requires for configuration data, what commands it can accept, what events it can emit, and plug and play device data.

If there is a way to detect the device automatically, add a plug and play record that has a mac address range of 0 and 0 and create a script in /usr/pluto/pnp which can detect the device, and send a messagesend back appropriately. Look at other scripts in this directory for guidance.

Once the device template has been made, you can then run:

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cd DCEGen
/usr/pluto/bin/DCEGen -d xxxx
cd ../sql2cpp
/usr/pluto/bin/sql2cpp

you now have a complete project ready to go in the ../src directory. Go into it, look at the code. There are method stubs for each command to implement.

then run my prep.sh script to prep the makefile, so you can compile it.

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prep.sh
make bin

you should now have a driver you can copy into /usr/pluto/bin/

You can then go into the web admin, advanced > configuration > devices > and add the device appropriately. How you set the  controlled via category in the template determines how this device should be added to the tree. If the device is a network device, the driver probably should run on the CORE, and thus the device should be controlled by the core... if it is a parallel port device, it should be controlled by the media director category.

Once you've added a device, copied the driver to /usr/pluto/bin and gotten its device #, reload the router, and the device should start.

Once you're ready to check it in, run my unprep.sh script in the project directory to convert the makefile back into a form that can be checked into our SVN.

I know this is an eyeful, but it should be able to provide an overview of what you need to do.

-Thom

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2009, 12:27:44 am »
Hi,

instead of using the GC100 could'nt we use a Merten 506004 4-way transmitter instead ? It would give us 4 imputs to a quite cheap price ...

Already asked for that earlyer,  but unfortunately no reply:
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=8214.msg54622

Or am I missing somehing here ?

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2009, 01:30:33 pm »
no. It is a z-wave remote and you don't see the rocker id on the receiving side, it behaves exactly like a z-wave remote switch. But with a bit of code you could use it as doorbell. It supports a special mode for that.

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Re: Alarm Panel Choice
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2009, 06:44:17 pm »
Hi Hari,

thanks for your reply :)

Thats just too bad :(
Does that also means that I can only use one of them with one light ? Or can one of them control four dfferent lights ?

The doorbell mode would be interesting though as I have two of them.

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