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tortho

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2009, 12:42:26 pm »
nite_man, Believe the potentioal and possibilitites here are bigger...

Believe the following should be possible:
- Tamper alarm
- Smoke alarm
- Use it as a siren for a security alarm? Would be quite loud and awesome.
- Battery status on request
- One detector sets off all of them
- Assume the text to speach can give you a message of where the fire might be as well?


Hari:
- Is it because of a new z-wave version/revision?
It is fully working in Homeseer..
Believe you need more than one to fully test the equipment.. as they are supposed to be connected to eachother.
5 units could be associated according to the spec.... believe we could connect and set of all with LinuxMCE? Will check with some other what is possible in Homeseer..
 
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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2009, 04:25:22 pm »
Price is not that bad. USD 100,- each for a smoke detector, wireless with battery and tamper alarm.. (Tamper alarm might be nice if you are renting out parts of your house)
Yeah I didn't mean they were overpriced but that it's quite a difference going from a normal smoke detector that costs 3 bucks, especially in case one needs several of them. In any case, if there's anything you want to spend money on it's protecting your wooden house from fire.

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2009, 06:21:22 pm »
Price is not that bad. USD 100,- each for a smoke detector, wireless with battery and tamper alarm.. (Tamper alarm might be nice if you are renting out parts of your house)
Yeah I didn't mean they were overpriced but that it's quite a difference going from a normal smoke detector that costs 3 bucks, especially in case one needs several of them. In any case, if there's anything you want to spend money on it's protecting your wooden house from fire.
There are also low priced alarms available that can be linked via RF. If one fires, others do too. Then it's only a matter of (testing the whole setup and) connecting physically only one of the alarms to gc100 or something similar. One very interesting alternative can be found here: www.jeelabs.org. I hope to learn GSD and such to a degree that I can use JeeNodes with LinuxMCE. Anyone using those yet..?

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2009, 01:11:55 am »
Hi Viking and everyone else ;-)

Have you seen this Danish site??
http://www.homeestore.com/index.php/da/produkter?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=117&category_id=6

It seems like Silvan is also starting to sell zwave devices :-)
http://eshop.silvan.dk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/kategori_El-og-Belysning-House-Control_22658

However, I'm still thinking about going with KNX and KNX-RF...


/Jones

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2009, 10:50:28 am »
:-)

The Flexcontrol Smoke Detector = Everspring SF-812

Mine has the Flexcontrol sticker on the front and everything else refers to Everspring SF-812 which is the manufacturer.
The  siren as well is the Everspring brand.

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2010, 06:18:31 pm »
Somehow I missed out on this.

Now the question is - how can we get Hari one of these smoke alarms ?

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2010, 08:46:28 pm »
Somehow I missed out on this.

Now the question is - how can we get Hari one of these smoke alarms ?

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2010, 10:08:48 pm »
I'm also wanting to get a smoke detector system setup through the house. Z-Wave is pretty much out of the question for me at this stage if my understanding of the system is correct (all products on forums are not allowed in NZ due to frequency). I'm in New Zealand and there seems to be only selected few products around from place in Australia (USB hub and appliance controllers).

GC100 looks to be great product but the cost seems very high and as mentioned the Z-Wave $100 detector if needing 4 or 5 is not an option for a lot of people.

Hari how did you get on with the ethernet solution?

Looking for something readily available, affordable solution that won't break the bank! :)

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 02:42:09 pm »
the ethernet thing works fine. The smoke detector talks to the ethernet base unit via RF. Unfortunately the base unit is not on the market yet.

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2010, 05:23:06 pm »
I see this smoke detector was being discussed on this thread http://zwave-products.co.uk/shop/article_121/Everspring-SF812-Z-Wave-Smoke-Detector.html?shop_param=cid%3D29%26aid%3D121%26

Is it working/PnP with LMCE yet? If not, who would like to chip in with me and buy one for Hari, providing he is willing?

Was also looking at this http://zwave-products.co.uk/shop/article_119/Everspring-SE812-Z-Wave-Indoor-Siren.html?shop_param=cid%3D29%26aid%3D119%26 but as someone else mentioned, it would nice if the smoke alarm could double as a siren, when a window sensor is tripped for example?

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2010, 12:52:52 pm »
Count me in on the SF-812

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2010, 08:18:28 pm »
Hi guys,

I just bought one of these, they actually ship from Germany and I'm in Poland so they will send anywhere.  I haven't tried it out yet, as the new apartment is still full of builders, and plaster dust, but it wasn't overly expensive and certainly can be used with other z-wave devices.

http://www.zwave4u.com/products/en/Sensors/Z-Wave-Smoke-Detector-SF812.html
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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2010, 10:05:34 pm »
Hari:
Are you in for the task?
If so could you either check how much the cost is in your country or let us know where you live to possibly supply a unit to avoid customs issues

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2010, 11:35:52 am »
Hari:
Are you in for the task?
sure!

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If so could you either check how much the cost is in your country or let us know where you live to possibly supply a unit to avoid customs issues

Germany or Austria is fine..

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Re: Is there any Smoke alarm z-wave ? Or other solution as gc100 ?
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2010, 04:33:50 pm »
Fantastic! Anybody else (come on Users!) want to chip in? PM me if you would rather not post here.

gtsupport, did you want to be included in this? My understanding is that this device is not currently supported under LMCE (please correct me if I'm wrong).
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