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Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« on: October 01, 2008, 05:35:57 am »
Is this possible?

I have a Intel 965GM motherboard, which isn't supported in Kubuntu Gutsy, but it runs fine in Intrepid because the intel driver is updated.

So would it be possible to install linuxmce 710 on Intrepid?

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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 05:55:30 am »
No, LMCE is too closely bound to 0710. Your options are either to wait for the 0810 version of LMCE to come out, or alternatively there is a wiki article that gives directions on how to upgrade the kernel in place on a 0710 installation.

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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 06:59:10 am »
It may be possible to simply build the updated driver and replace the current module. The "rough draft" instructions for this are also in the Wiki under "Upgrading the Kernel". For a single video driver you are probably better off using this method. Upgrading the whole kernel requires a lot of effort to fix all of the things it breaks.

Keep in mind these instructions are not perfect, a little experience with Linux will be a huge benefit.




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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 07:43:20 am »
Demus.
It may be possible to simply build the updated driver and replace the current module. The "rough draft" instructions for this are also in the Wiki under "Upgrading the Kernel". For a single video driver you are probably better off using this method. Upgrading the whole kernel requires a lot of effort to fix all of the things it breaks.

Keep in mind these instructions are not perfect, a little experience with Linux will be a huge benefit.

No it is not possible.
There are lot more dependencies than just drivers and the kernel.

Do not do it.

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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 10:11:15 am »
niz23,

are you talking about it not being possible to use a newer kernel, or are you talking about it not being possible to use 0710 on 0810?

the former might be possible, the latter definitly won't work.

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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 11:13:33 am »
Demus.
It may be possible to simply build the updated driver and replace the current module. The "rough draft" instructions for this are also in the Wiki under "Upgrading the Kernel". For a single video driver you are probably better off using this method. Upgrading the whole kernel requires a lot of effort to fix all of the things it breaks.

Keep in mind these instructions are not perfect, a little experience with Linux will be a huge benefit.

No it is not possible.
There are lot more dependencies than just drivers and the kernel.

Do not do it.

/niz23

Well I would agree that its probably not a useful road to go along ie replacing the 0710 kernel with the 0810 one that is... but it does work as we have successfully tested it. However 'work' does not mean that it would be a usable system... and its not something we are pursuing for installable systems.

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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 09:21:54 pm »
posde,
niz23,

are you talking about it not being possible to use a newer kernel, or are you talking about it not being possible to use 0710 on 0810?

the former might be possible, the latter definitly won't work.

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Oliver

Sorry. Wasn´t clear enough.
Running a newer kernel work.

Running 0710 on 0810 is not possible.

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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 01:16:22 pm »
we have 0810 pre alpha builds, drop to #linuxmce-devel
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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 01:59:28 pm »
we have 0810 pre alpha builds, drop to #linuxmce-devel

Cool! Is it possible to get it for testing somehow?
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latest kernel on LMCE 7.10 is posssible
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 04:07:55 pm »
It is also not too hard.  if you use "fakeroot make-kpkg ...." as below, these are my scrappy notes on the process,

apt-get install build-essential fakeroot kernel-package

cd /usr/src/linux
download latest kernel to /usr/src
untar it using tar-xvzf or tar -xvjf
ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.27.4 linux
cd linux

copy kernel .config file from LMCE kernel area
cp /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.22/.config ./.config

if X11 (graphics console) is still working
DISPLAY=:0.0 make xconfig

otherwise
make menuconfig

ensure that the right processor family is selected, also that the clock interrupts are
set to 1000 Hz

export CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3
fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image kernel_headers
dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.27.4.xxxxxx.deb  linux-image-2.6.27.4-xxxxxxx.deb
(or whatever the 2 new deb files are called)

reboot into single user mode, by editing the menu line in grub and putting "single" with no quotes at the end of the line.  then need to run NVIDIA installer, make sure you make a copy of your GOOD /etc/X11/xorg.conf file before you do this so you can copy it back once LMCE stomps on it with the AV wizard.  If you are using kernel 2.6.27 you *MUST* use nvidial installer 177.80 (latest one, use the one ending in 0.run if you can't get the one ending in 1.run to work, my NVIDIAxxxx177.80xxx1.run file failed with a wrong checksum no matter how I tried to download it).
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.80/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg1.run
http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/177.80/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.80-pkg0.run

Anyway, short untidy version of instructions that worked for me- all is up and running- well Mythtv, my display, and UI2 so not a bad start.

minor glitch with mythtv where rtc under /proc is missing, had to edit /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend script to stop it trying to write to it.  you might be lucky and your RTC may be there, you could try disabling HPET and enabling traditional RTC.
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Re: Running 7.10 on Kubuntu 8.10
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2008, 01:45:08 am »
there is a wiki for upgrading the to a newer kernel.  I have tried 2.6.26.5 and 2.6.27.4 successfully. Also have changed version of lirc and alsa without too many problems,  but this may cause you problems upgrading when new version of lmce come out.