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Re: Prebuilt LinuxMCE Products
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2008, 06:02:04 pm »
Andrew,

thank you for your update, and I am looking forward to any updates that come out of the third party developing the VDR integration.

I really am grateful for the amount of time and effort you put into supporting people in the forum.

I hope, that people get together to make sure, we don't spend time twice or thrice, because we are not talking openly with each other (like the Z-Wave example hari pointed out).

A lot of people have been holding their breath for VDR to finally be there. From your statement, I take it, that you yourself are less than amused, to not get the type of ongoing information from the third party that once would expect from professional people.

I read your original statement regarding the VDR implementation like this:
"Hey, VDR is working fine for our customers, but we don't give it to you, because otherwise we might loose something"
Looking at the time and effort a lot of people put into LinuxMCE (effort you as a dealer profit from), that understanding caused some bad feelings, hence my reaction.

I am looking forward to the end of August, to finally send my VDR system into retirement :)

Best regards

Oliver

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Re: Prebuilt LinuxMCE Products
« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2008, 09:21:31 pm »
Our bi-directional KNX/EIB & Z-wave driver code is 100% internally developed by our engineers and is not derived from any existing Open Source source code. The final decision on whether to release is not taken yet although I expect that we will release it under the GPL.

are we working on three Z-Wave drivers now (pluto, dianemo and mine [http://svn.linuxmce.org/pluto/branches/charon-merge/src/ZWave/])?

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Hari as far as i know the current Pluto derived z-wave driver is not being developed any further at all - so strike that one. Our code has been in development for some time and when we make it available it will be an alternative to yours. The community can choose which one fits there needs better. I dont see that as a problem in anyway for us (ie you or CHT ;-) ) or the community. Choice is good.

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Re: Prebuilt LinuxMCE Products
« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2008, 10:08:48 pm »
A lot of people have been holding their breath for VDR to finally be there. From your statement, I take it, that you yourself are less than amused, to not get the type of ongoing information from the third party that once would expect from professional people.

Hmmm.... not sure what your saying above at all. All we are doing is developing a key part of LinuxMCE (at least we see it that way... thats why were doing it!!) that had previously been un-available. So we decided to fix that and write the code... we could have sat on that code and just got on and sold our Dianemo systems to customers. But we chose to make it available to the community.

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I read your original statement regarding the VDR implementation like this:
"Hey, VDR is working fine for our customers, but we don't give it to you, because otherwise we might loose something"
Looking at the time and effort a lot of people put into LinuxMCE (effort you as a dealer profit from), that understanding caused some bad feelings, hence my reaction.

My original response here was by way of an update of where we are at... I in no way was trying to 'brag' about having something you dont'.  Why would would you think we would 'loose anything' ? If we had any sense that we might 'loose something' we would not be here at all. We gain enormously by participating here and by having the community use/improve our code. Our Dianemo customers are not the people who frequent this forum... they want a professionally installed working system that hides all the technical issues from them.

Have I ever questioned how much you contribute to this community? No... I dont think I have. So all I would ask is that you treat me and my company in the same way.

All the best

Andrew

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Re: Prebuilt LinuxMCE Products
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2008, 10:52:22 pm »
Our code has been in development for some time and when we make it available it will be an alternative to yours.
was not sure if you are talking about the new pluto code (1audio was talking about that, too) or if CHT is doing another variant.

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The community can choose which one fits there needs better. I dont see that as a problem in anyway for us (ie you or CHT ;-) ) or the community. Choice is good.
same here :-)

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Re: Prebuilt LinuxMCE Products
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2008, 11:20:43 pm »
My original response here was by way of an update of where we are at... I in no way was trying to 'brag' about having something you dont'.  Why would would you think we would 'loose anything' ? If we had any sense that we might 'loose something' we would not be here at all. We gain enormously by participating here and by having the community use/improve our code. Our Dianemo customers are not the people who frequent this forum... they want a professionally installed working system that hides all the technical issues from them.

Have I ever questioned how much you contribute to this community? No... I dont think I have. So all I would ask is that you treat me and my company in the same way.

Andrew, thank you for clarifying this. I hope I did get my point across, with regards to the expectations a lot of people had from the initial release of VDR, and the shortcomings they found out later on. I do appreciate everybodies work within the LinuxMCE community, whether it is developers, support people, or users who share their setup in the wiki, for the rest to benefit from.

During the last couple of month, I closely followed what other people were doing, and how open they were in providing the code they were (and are) working on. This gave (and gives) me a sense of progress, and that feeling is very nice.

All the best to you as well, and I am looking forward to whatever might come out.

Best regards

Oliver

PS: And comparing your message count with mine, clearly shows, who is doing more for support in here. ;)