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Asus Eee Box
« on: August 04, 2008, 11:49:33 pm »
Check this out:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/08/review-asuss-mi.html

According to Andrew, the Atom 1.6 Ghz CPU may support up to 720p high def, and this box seems to have a SPDIF out and DVI port according to what I read on another forum (not verified through). It is not fanless, and one forum post claimed that the fan is noisy.

Haven't tried it yet, they can be found around $350 on Ebay right now... Hopefully the price should come down a bit soon.

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« Last Edit: August 04, 2008, 11:53:50 pm by jeangot »

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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 02:17:47 pm »
Jean,

 I do not think they are there yet. I read the review on Anand-tech and he states in his review that there is no digital output at least on the model he tested and they use about 90% of the cpu with a 720p video file. There is absolutely zero hardware acceleration and it all has to be handled via the CPU (Atom). I do not have a link I just google Eee Box and found the Anand-Tech review.

 In closing he states that this will not make a good htpc at this point. I would save some money and wait for another model.

 regards,

 Dave

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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 11:04:52 pm »
Dave,

according to this there is SPDIF out:
http://gizmodo.com/394563/asus-eee-box-b202-our-first-look-plus-official-specs-only-300

And yes it is not the ultimate solution for HD but it could be anough for 720p which for me is enough in most rooms of my house. That's assuming the price would drop to around $200 :-)

If I get my hand on one, I'll update you...

Jean

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 11:54:42 pm »
Jean,

 Unless that model is newer then the one reviewed at Anand's site. The pics I saw only had a single 1/8 mini plug for the output. DVI - LAN - USB and power were all that was on the back side.  I would like one as well even with the nifty vesa mounting bracket they show.
 
 One thing Anand mention is that Asus really skimped on the cooling of this box. The intel atom with the proper cooling is totally silent and Asus chose to skimp and run a mixture of a fan and pipes. typical but at that price point I can see why.

  http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=3321

 Above is the link to Anand's review.

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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 03:51:14 pm »
Dave,

according to this there is SPDIF out:
http://gizmodo.com/394563/asus-eee-box-b202-our-first-look-plus-official-specs-only-300

And yes it is not the ultimate solution for HD but it could be anough for 720p which for me is enough in most rooms of my house. That's assuming the price would drop to around $200 :-)

If I get my hand on one, I'll update you...

Jean

 Jean,

 Well I finally got to see one out of the box and in my hands. The audio output on the back does in fact do both analog and digital and it includes a white plastic adaptor that plugs into the 1/8 plug. I booted it up at the store and got into the bios. It is a full bios surprisingly and you can enable it to boot from the lan rom. I did not try this though as I was not ready to BUY it yet from them. They want 399 for the 1gb version and I have them down to 370$ CDN but they did not receive the keyboard and mouse from Asus. My understanding is they ordered 150 of them air from overseas and this is why the steep price. The one thing I could not find in the bios is a place to DISABLE the on-board Wireless N lan, which could cause us grief. I see in the manual that it can be done from within windows via the driver which really does not help us much.

 They are VERY quiet but with your ear to the box you can slightly hear the fan running which I am sure would turn into a louder fan once the thing had been on for a while.
 
 The dumb thing that I see with this is that Asus installed 2 x 512 ddr2 sodimms, si you need to add two now 1gb sodimms to upgrade instead of a single 1gb to take it two 2gb.

 I hope to maybe make a deal with them today on one and get it tested and make them give me the Gomouse they have had on display for 6 months in lieu of the keyboard and mouse. The Keyboard looks like a rebadged gyration mini but not sure of that. Newegg now has them listed as well.

 rgds,

 Dave

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 04:54:34 pm »
I'm very interested in the eeeBoxes as well. Looking forward to hearing some experiences with them.

I have some 720p stuff, but most of my media is just SD so it looks like it might fit my bill just fine.

Too bad they don't offer it diskless to take more cost off the top.

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 08:47:31 pm »
Jean,

 I do not think they are there yet. I read the review on Anand-tech and he states in his review that there is no digital output at least on the model he tested and they use about 90% of the cpu with a 720p video file. There is absolutely zero hardware acceleration and it all has to be handled via the CPU (Atom). I do not have a link I just google Eee Box and found the Anand-Tech review.

 In closing he states that this will not make a good htpc at this point. I would save some money and wait for another model.

 regards,

 Dave

Hmmm... well based on our test of the Intel ATOM i945 based motherboard which uses the same chipset and importantly for video perfoamnce the same GMA950 GPU I can say that we dont see anything more than 15-20% cpu usage when playing a ripped DVD at 720p.

Overall performance is really very good indeed and i would not have any reservations about overall performance of ATOM 1.6Ghz based units.

All the best

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 10:35:16 pm »
Here in Ontario, Canada, one of the eBay stores I deal with has them for sale at $389 CDN + Shipping + Taxes

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ASUS-EEE-BOX-B202-WHITE-INTEL-ATOM-1-6GHZ-1G-DDR2-80_W0QQitemZ280256283653QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262

Very tempting! I just might be in a position to afford one in a couple weeks. Would mount beautifully on the new Acer 22" wide screen monitor arriving later this week! ;-)

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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 11:05:19 pm »
Jean,

 I do not think they are there yet. I read the review on Anand-tech and he states in his review that there is no digital output at least on the model he tested and they use about 90% of the cpu with a 720p video file. There is absolutely zero hardware acceleration and it all has to be handled via the CPU (Atom). I do not have a link I just google Eee Box and found the Anand-Tech review.

 In closing he states that this will not make a good htpc at this point. I would save some money and wait for another model.

 regards,

 Dave

Hmmm... well based on our test of the Intel ATOM i945 based motherboard which uses the same chipset and importantly for video perfoamnce the same GMA950 GPU I can say that we dont see anything more than 15-20% cpu usage when playing a ripped DVD at 720p.

Overall performance is really very good indeed and i would not have any reservations about overall performance of ATOM 1.6Ghz based units.

All the best

Andrew

Andrew,

How plug and play is the Intel Atom i945 you tried?

Did you have to do anything special to get the video to work or was it recognised?

Jason

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2008, 09:29:50 am »
Here in Ontario, Canada, one of the eBay stores I deal with has them for sale at $389 CDN + Shipping + Taxes

Very tempting! I just might be in a position to afford one in a couple weeks. Would mount beautifully on the new Acer 22" wide screen monitor arriving later this week! ;-)

 Freymann,

 I can get you one for $370 CDN as I said or less if we get two and I am sure it would not cost 30$ to ship it to you. We just have to wait for the keyboard and mouse.

 rgds,

 Dave

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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2008, 01:33:02 pm »
Jean,

 I do not think they are there yet. I read the review on Anand-tech and he states in his review that there is no digital output at least on the model he tested and they use about 90% of the cpu with a 720p video file. There is absolutely zero hardware acceleration and it all has to be handled via the CPU (Atom). I do not have a link I just google Eee Box and found the Anand-Tech review.

 In closing he states that this will not make a good htpc at this point. I would save some money and wait for another model.

 regards,

 Dave

Hmmm... well based on our test of the Intel ATOM i945 based motherboard which uses the same chipset and importantly for video perfoamnce the same GMA950 GPU I can say that we dont see anything more than 15-20% cpu usage when playing a ripped DVD at 720p.

Overall performance is really very good indeed and i would not have any reservations about overall performance of ATOM 1.6Ghz based units.

All the best

Andrew

Andrew,

How plug and play is the Intel Atom i945 you tried?

Did you have to do anything special to get the video to work or was it recognised?

Jason

Well its plug-n-play with an updated AVwizard... this will be in the svn early next week I would guess.

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2008, 04:53:24 pm »
From the various reviews I have read, the Atom performs like a 1.2GHz Pentium M (Dothan).

I'm ordering one to test and evaluate.

When will update 1 for 0710 be out so the   'Updated AVizard '  is added ?

What's the procedure for manually getting it recognized and working correctly ?

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2008, 05:12:06 pm »
From the various reviews I have read, the Atom performs like a 1.2GHz Pentium M (Dothan).

I'm ordering one to test and evaluate.

When will update 1 for 0710 be out so the   'Updated AVizard '  is added ?

What's the procedure for manually getting it recognized and working correctly ?

Regards..Martin

From our tests we would say that it performs similarly to a 1.8Ghz i945 based motherbaord... hard to separate them in performance terms.

I cant say when Update 1 for 710 will be out I'm afraid.

Once our AVwizard revision is in the svn you will need to grab a copy and build it... then copy the new binary into /usr/pluto/bin and reboot and force the AVwizard to run by holding the 'shift' key down until you hear the additional 'beeps' after the normal 'rising beeps' during boot....then just use the AVwizard a normal to set the options you need.

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Re: Asus Eee Box
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2008, 05:29:22 pm »
Hi,

just a little update. Newegg has them now in USA for $350 US (which is now more in CAD :-) but not sure if they ship to Canada: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220002

They also have a new barebone from MSI based on the Atom chip for $139:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032

Difference to the eee seems to be no DVI (just VGA, which totallymaxed said he can run 720p out of), and no wireless (which we don't need anyway). I'll probably order one of these in a week or two.

Jean

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2008, 06:27:40 pm »
That looks pretty good, stick a gig or 2 of RAM in it and you have a good looking MD for $170!! a bit more if you want a DVD player - I only ever use the one in my core to rip to the Core.

Let me know your experiences with it