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Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« on: July 12, 2008, 06:28:59 pm »
Hi All,

 I wanted to ask if anyone had any experience as far as the new Yamaha RX-V recvr's. There is a blowout on a new RXV-2700 locally here and notice in the WIKI that there is no link to it for more info so I am wondering if the RX-V1500 codes in the will work or if anyone has tested. Now that I have my collection problem is sorted out I will be ordering my gc-100 on Monday - will a usb to serial cable for comm until the gc-100 shows up.


 rgds,

 Dave

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2008, 07:38:25 pm »
Actually in rethinking this and doing some code research the Denon rcvrs with or without netwrok capabilities look like they may be easier to program and get setup.

 rgds,

 Dave

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2008, 08:24:50 pm »
Hi rodercot,

I've purchased a RX-V1700, I'll test it this week and let you know. ;)

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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2008, 11:01:33 pm »
Thanks enoodle. I am really intrigued by the new denon rcvr's now they are full open to PC access. You can set it up from a browser window now as well as stream FLAC and AAC from the net and ofcourse MS stuff as well. The only sad part is that this feature only is installed in the 1700$ rcvrs and above.

 Would that help our cause being that it is a netwrokable device. IE - It could be pluto device instead of a serial device or is this opening another big can of worms.

 rgds,

 Dave

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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 09:40:53 pm »
I ended up picking up a Denon AVR-988 rcvr, I just could nut justify spending the $$ on the 3808ci model just because I needed Rs-232 and as it turns our the 988 is identical to the 2808ci model less the two remotes that are included. Any Future shop had them on at 799 this week regular is 1250CDN. they have 20 left in Toronto and that;s it. I bought an open box after a full demo of the rcvr as there were none left around here for sale.

 Now, can I edit the existing template for the denon avc that is in the admin or should I create a new one for rs232 control. This model has one extra zone with all capabilities.

 Where should I start with this. I do not want to muck up the template that is there now if I can just copy and paste from it to a new one that is even better.

 A link or two would be great.

 Thanks,

 Dave

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 04:22:39 am »
AFAIK,

Marantz SR series is by far cheapest with rs232 to way communication...

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Thanks in advance,

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 07:20:15 am »
FWIW: I recently went through the exercise of selecting a receiver and ended up with a refurbed Marantz SR7500 for $499 USD from amazon/accessories4less.  I haven't noticed any defects with it and am happy with it.  I have noticed that the accessories4less still has refurbished SR7500s for sale now and then (they have one for $479 right now).

The SR series templates still need some work.  The one that shipped with 0710RC1 prevents music and videos from being played at all.  I have hand rolled a quick'n dirty template on my own that works for my basic system (on/off, mute, volume).  This thread has the latest on that effort:
http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=3793.msg32669#msg32669

One thing that I really like about the SR7500 is that it supports both analog (RCA) and digital (SPDIF) inputs for the same device and switches between them automatically.  With my setup, there are occasions where LinuxMCE outputs on the analog channels.  Outputting analog audio when SPDIF is available doesn't seem like appropriate behavior, but because the Marantz switches automatically, I can ignore it without it being a problem.

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 01:07:17 pm »
Hi,

I have SR5600 and I'm quite happy with it. Must admit, I don't use video, so that support is not in templates...

I've created template for SR series in multiroom setup (one generic for 7+1 output is already in made by Hari)... I hope I'll be able to enter it into sqlcvs soon....

http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php/Marantz_SR5600

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 04:23:03 pm »
i'd assume the problem with the generic rs232 marantz template in 0710 is the reporting of a negative volume level. Something like this should fix it, but i've not yet tried it as I've been pretty busy these days:

 43:if volume != 0
  44:  volume = (volume + 71) * 1.1764
  45:end
  46:log('volume parameter for event: ' + volume.to_s);

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 04:35:46 pm »

 I agree the Marantz may have been the cheapest to work with rs-232 but I got this Denon at basically 60% of list so I am happy with it and any Denon I have had in the past was beautiful with 2 channel pure direct modes.

 Now back to my original questions of templates.

 Can someone get me started I have read the wiki of adding devices, etc.etc... The denon rcvr is direct input codes no hex necessary. but again where to start, add a device and create a new template or use an existings. Bulek when you created the Marantz template. Did you have one for the rcvr and one for the tuner or did you just use the TV template you talked about for the whole rcvr.

 I am not looking for a step by step process, I am willing to do the work to get this thing installed and working. The ruby stuff has me a little sych'd and I am not sure if I will need that but by reading your Marantz page it is looking like a will if I want to use the multi-zone etc...

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 07:43:14 pm »
i'd assume the problem with the generic rs232 marantz template in 0710 is the reporting of a negative volume level. Something like this should fix it, but i've not yet tried it as I've been pretty busy these days:

 43:if volume != 0
  44:  volume = (volume + 71) * 1.1764
  45:end
  46:log('volume parameter for event: ' + volume.to_s);

best regards,
Hari

Hi,

I've made some dirty code to recalculate levels, so they conform to range 0-100 (different outputs have different ranges).... Maybe we can even merge those two templates.... My surely needs revision of more experienced programmer...

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Bulek.
Thanks in advance,

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2008, 01:18:56 pm »
Hi guys,

just wanted to give you an update on my process with the RX-V1700.

The receiver ist auto-detected by the serial PnP script. It identifies itself as yamaha receiver with Configuration R0210, which is different to the existing RX-V1500 (R0177). However, the specs from Yamaha hasn't changed much, so it isn't that hard to add all the Ruby codes, in fact the old template is a perfect base as it allready has the multizone stuff and all the inputs defined.

Using the rs232 specifications, which can be found here http://www.yamaha-online.de/products.php?lang=g&country=DE&idprod=1372 (Sorry, it's a german link, just press "download" at the top and you'll find a list, the last entry is the rs232 protocol). it is really simple to add the ruby commands.

I've made some simple tests with vol-up, vol-down and simple input-switching. Everything is working as expected, so I'll finish up this template. The template then should work for RX-V1700, RX-V1800, RX-V2700 and RX-V2800. :)

Tested with:

Asus P5E-VM HDMI, Geforce 8400 GS (because the integrated intel chipset won't do OpenGL, but that's an other task), Aureon 7.1 Digital output (with AC3 and DTS passthrough). Serial connection is done by using a normal null-modem cable on the internal serial breakthrough.

Here is a simple list, which I found on remote central (http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rc-touch/thread.cgi?849). Just use one of the serial commands and add it as ruby snippet. If you want to add "Master Volume +" for example, the code would look like

Code: [Select]
<$"\x0207A1A\x03"$>
Complete List:

serialstring "Master Volume +" "\x0207A1A\x03"
serialstring "Master Volume -" "\x0207A1B\x03"
serialstring "Mute ON" "\x0207EA2\x03"
serialstring "Mute OFF" "\x0207EA3\x03"
serialstring "Input: Phono" "\x0207A14\x03"
serialstring "Input: CD" "\x0207A15\x03"
serialstring "Input: Tuner" "\x0207A16\x03"
serialstring "Input: CD-R" "\x0207A19\x03"
serialstring "Input: MD/TAPE" "\x0207AC9\x03"
serialstring "Input: DVD" "\x0207AC1\x03"
serialstring "Input: D-TV/LD" "\x0207A54\x03"
serialstring "Input: CBL/SAT" "\x0207AC0\x03"
serialstring "Input: VCR1" "\x0207A0F\x03"
serialstring "Input: VCR2/DVR" "\x0207A13\x03"
serialstring "Input: V-Aux" "\x0207A55\x03"
serialstring "Input: 6 Chan ON" "\x0207EA4\x03"
serialstring "Input: 6 Chan OFF" "\x0207EA5\x03"
serialstring "Input Mode: Auto" "\x0207EA6\x03"
serialstring "Input Mode: DD" "\x0207EA7\x03"
serialstring "Input Mode: DTS" "\x0207EA8\x03"
serialstring "Input Mode: Digital" "\x0207EA9\x03"
serialstring "Input Mode: Analog" "\x0207EAA\x03"
serialstring "Input Mode: AAC" "\x0207E3B\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Volume +" "\x0207ADA\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Volume -" "\x0207ADB\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Mute ON" "\x0207EA0\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Mute OFF" "\x0207EA1\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: Phono" "\x0207AD0\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: CD" "\x0207AD1\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: Tuner" "\x0207AD2\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: CD-R" "\x0207AD3\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: MD/TAPE" "\x0207ACF\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: DVD" "\x0207ACD\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: D-TV/LD" "\x0207AD9\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: CBL/SAT" "\x0207ACC\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: VCR1" "\x0207AD6\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: VCR2/DVR" "\x0207AD7\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Input: V-Aux" "\x0207AD8\x03"
serialstring "Power ON" "\x0207A1D\x03"
serialstring "Power OFF" "\x0207A1E\x03"
serialstring "Main Power ON" "\x0207E7E\x03"
serialstring "Main Power OFF" "\x0207E7F\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Power ON" "\x0207EBA\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Power OFF" "\x0207EBB\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Power ON" "\x0207AED\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Power OFF" "\x0207AEE\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Mute ON" "\x0207E26\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Mute OFF" "\x0207E66\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Volume +" "\x0207AFD\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Volume -" "\x0207AFE\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: Phono" "\x0207AF1\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: CD" "\x0207AF2\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: Tuner" "\x0207AF3\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: CD-R" "\x0207AF5\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: MD/TAPE" "\x0207AF4\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: DVD" "\x0207AFC\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: D-TV/LD" "\x0207AF6\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: CBL/SAT" "\x0207AF7\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: VCR1" "\x0207AF9\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: VCR2/DVR" "\x0207AFA\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Input: V-Aux" "\x0207AF0\x03"
serialstring "OSD: Off" "\x0207EB0\x03"
serialstring "OSD: Short" "\x0207EB1\x03"
serialstring "OSD: Full" "\x0207EB2\x03"
serialstring "Sleep: OFF" "\x0207EB3\x03"
serialstring "Sleep: 120 min" "\x0207EB4\x03"
serialstring "Sleep: 90 min" "\x0207EB5\x03"
serialstring "Sleep: 60 min" "\x0207EB6\x03"
serialstring "Sleep: 30 min" "\x0207EB7\x03"
serialstring "EX/ES: On (Matrix)" "\x0207EB8\x03"
serialstring "EX/ES: Off" "\x0207EB9\x03"
serialstring "EX/ES: Auto" "\x0207E7C\x03"
serialstring "EX/ES: Discrete" "\x0207E7D\x03"
serialstring "Night ON" "\x0207E9B\x03"
serialstring "Night OFF" "\x0207E9C\x03"
serialstring "Effect ON" "\x0207E27\x03"
serialstring "Stereo" "\x0207EE0\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Hall A" "\x0207EE1\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Hall B" "\x0207EE2\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Hall C" "\x0207EE3\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Live Concert" "\x0207EE6\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Freiburg" "\x0207EE8\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Royaumont" "\x0207EE9\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Village Gate" "\x0207EEA\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Bottom Line" "\x0207EEC\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Roxy Theater" "\x0207EED\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Arena" "\x0207EEF\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Disco" "\x0207EF0\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Game" "\x0207EF2\x03"
serialstring "DSP: 7ch Stereo" "\x0207EFF\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Pop/Rock" "\x0207EF3\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Classical" "\x0207EF5\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Mono Movie" "\x0207EF7\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Var Sports" "\x0207EF8\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Spectacle" "\x0207EF9\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Sci-Fi" "\x0207EFA\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Adventure" "\x0207EFB\x03"
serialstring "DSP: General" "\x0207EFC\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Normal" "\x0207EFD\x03"
serialstring "DSP: Enhanced" "\x0207EFE\x03"
serialstring "DSP: PLII Movie" "\x0207E67\x03"
serialstring "DSP: PLII Music" "\x0207E68\x03"
serialstring "DSP: NEO:6 Cinema" "\x0207E69\x03"
serialstring "DSP: NEO:6 Music" "\x0207E6A\x03"
serialstring "DSP: 2ch Dir Stereo" "\x0207EC1\x03"
serialstring "DSP: 2ch Stereo" "\x0207EC0\x03"
serialstring "DSP: THX Music" "\x0207EC3\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset Pg A" "\x0207AE0\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset Pg B" "\x0207AE1\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset Pg C" "\x0207AE2\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset Pg D" "\x0207AE3\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset Pg E" "\x0207AE4\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 1" "\x0207AE5\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 2" "\x0207AE6\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 3" "\x0207AE7\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 4" "\x0207AE8\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 5" "\x0207AE9\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 6" "\x0207AEA\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 7" "\x0207AEB\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Preset 8" "\x0207AEC\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Band FM" "\x0207EBC\x03"
serialstring "Tuner Band AM" "\x0207EBD\x03"
serialstring "Auto Tuning Up" "\x0207EBE\x03"
serialstring "Auto Tuning Down" "\x0207EBF\x03"
serialstring "Speaker Relay A ON" "\x0207EAB\x03"
serialstring "Speaker Relay A OFF" "\x0207EAC\x03"
serialstring "Speaker Relay B ON" "\x0207EAD\x03"
serialstring "Speaker Relay B OFF" "\x0207EAE\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Mem A" "\x0207E2B\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Mem B" "\x0207E2C\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Mem C" "\x0207E2D\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Mem D" "\x0207E2E\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Mem E" "\x0207E2F\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Mem F" "\x0207E20\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Rcl A" "\x0207E35\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Rcl B" "\x0207E36\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Rcl C" "\x0207E37\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Rcl D" "\x0207E38\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Rcl E" "\x0207E39\x03"
serialstring "Home Preset Rcl F" "\x0207E3A\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Mem A" "\x0207E6B\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Mem B" "\x0207E6C\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Mem C" "\x0207E6D\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Mem D" "\x0207E6E\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Mem E" "\x0207E6F\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Mem F" "\x0207E60\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Rcl A" "\x0207E75\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Rcl B" "\x0207E76\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Rcl C" "\x0207E77\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Rcl D" "\x0207E78\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Rcl E" "\x0207E79\x03"
serialstring "Vol Preset Rcl F" "\x0207E7A\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Memory A" "\x0207E87\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Memory B" "\x0207E88\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Memory C" "\x0207E89\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Memory D" "\x0207E8A\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Memory E" "\x0207E8B\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Memory F" "\x0207E8C\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Recall A" "\x0207E8D\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Recall B" "\x0207E8E\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Recall C" "\x0207E8F\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Recall D" "\x0207E90\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Recall E" "\x0207E91\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Vol Recall F" "\x0207E92\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Memory A" "\x0207E20\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Memory B" "\x0207E21\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Memory C" "\x0207E22\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Memory D" "\x0207E23\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Memory E" "\x0207E24\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Memory F" "\x0207E25\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Recall A" "\x0207E60\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Recall B" "\x0207E61\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Recall C" "\x0207E62\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Recall D" "\x0207E63\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Recall E" "\x0207E64\x03"
serialstring "Z3 Vol Recall F" "\x0207E65\x03"
serialstring "DC1 Trig Ctrl: Z1" "\x0207E32\x03"
serialstring "DC1 Trig Ctrl: Z2" "\x0207E33\x03"
serialstring "DC1 Trig Ctrl: Z3" "\x0207E31\x03"
serialstring "Zone 1 DC1 Trig ON" "\x0207E71\x03"
serialstring "Zone 1 DC1 Trig OFF" "\x0207E72\x03"
serialstring "Zone 2 DC1 Trig ON" "\x0207E73\x03"
serialstring "Zone 2 DC1 Trig OFF" "\x0207E74\x03"
serialstring "Zone 3 DC1 Trig ON" "\x0207E83\x03"
serialstring "Zone 3 DC1 Trig OFF" "\x0207E84\x03"
serialstring "Dual Mono: Main" "\x0207E93\x03"
serialstring "Dual Mono: Sub" "\x0207E94\x03"
serialstring "Dual Mono: All" "\x0207E95\x03"
serialstring "DC2 Trig Ctrl: Z1" "\x0207E96\x03"
serialstring "DC2 Trig Ctrl: Z2" "\x0207E97\x03"
serialstring "DC2 Trig Ctrl: Z3" "\x0207E9F\x03"
serialstring "DC2 Trig Ctrl: Z OR" "\x0207E98\x03"
serialstring "Zone 1 DC2 Trig ON" "\x0207E3C\x03"
serialstring "Zone 1 DC2 Trig OFF" "\x0207E3D\x03"
serialstring "Zone 2 DC2 Trig ON" "\x0207E3E\x03"
serialstring "Zone 2 DC2 Trig OFF" "\x0207E3F\x03"
serialstring "Zone 3 DC2 Trig ON" "\x0207E85\x03"
serialstring "Zone 3 DC2 Trig OFF" "\x0207E86\x03"
serialstring "Speaker B: Zone 1" "\x0207E28\x03"
serialstring "Speaker B: Zone 2" "\x0207E29\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Speaker Out ON" "\x0207E99\x03"
serialstring "Z2 Speaker Out OFF" "\x0207E9A\x03"

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2008, 02:25:55 pm »
Hi rodercot,

I've purchased a RX-V1700, I'll test it this week and let you know. ;)

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The Denon's are PnP on rs232 pretty much... I would recommend them for that reason.

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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2008, 02:54:52 pm »


The Denon's are PnP on rs232 pretty much... I would recommend them for that reason.

Andrew
[/quote]

 Andrew,

 That is next on my list. I notice in the manual that the Denon asks for a pwr down command to be issued by the control device. Does that mean the port is not active until you so. Should I just hook up my laptop and issue the command and then set it up in LMCE.

 I was going to modify the AVC1 template that is in the system currently.

 Rgds,
 
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Re: Yamaha RX-V???? RS-232 Stuff
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2008, 03:01:26 pm »


The Denon's are PnP on rs232 pretty much... I would recommend them for that reason.

Andrew

 Andrew,

 That is next on my list. I notice in the manual that the Denon asks for a pwr down command to be issued by the control device. Does that mean the port is not active until you so. Should I just hook up my laptop and issue the command and then set it up in LMCE.

 I was going to modify the AVC1 template that is in the system currently.

 Rgds,
 
 Dave
[/quote]

Hmmm... as far as I know we don't do that. The only thing we do is choose the appropriate matching input as its quite likely that the Denon you use (we use a lot of 2308's) will have marginally different inputs than the AVC1 template. You could modify the AVC1 template and that would work too.

All the best

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