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Hi all

The motherboard INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC is out now.
It really looks like a potential MD platform. Low power consumption most of all and small in size.

A german review can be found here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/de/atom-230-Hyperthreading-945GCT-D,testberichte-240070.html
An english review of atom here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-cpu,1947.html

I would like to start this topic to discuss experiences by users.
Apparently it is not availabel in shops yet (at least here in Switzerland), but should hopefully soon be ready to ship.

Looking foreward

cheers
Roberto

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 03:03:35 am »
Hi,

I did not look at the spec's.  I am "aarrgghh" don't know how to explain it.

Something just released, a new brain fart, etc. etc.  is not going to make it into supported LMCE for some time.

DO NOT!!!!  purchase the latest and greatest chipset,bullshitsets whatever, because someone has to integrate the more popular devices into LMCE.

Sorry,

I just purchase a new MOBO that WINXP can't support, FEDORA 9 can't support and there's NO WAY I'm going to purchase "hisss eevvviilllll" VISTA to get half ass'd support!

I am really tick'd at the moment.  Please forgive me.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2008, 07:29:33 am »
roberto99.
Hi all

The motherboard INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC is out now.
It really looks like a potential MD platform. Low power consumption most of all and small in size.

A german review can be found here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/de/atom-230-Hyperthreading-945GCT-D,testberichte-240070.html
An english review of atom here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-cpu,1947.html

I would like to start this topic to discuss experiences by users.
Apparently it is not availabel in shops yet (at least here in Switzerland), but should hopefully soon be ready to ship.

Looking foreward

cheers
Roberto

I don´t agree with previous poster.
However as with everything new expect to do some research first or even buy one unit just to test and see how it works.

There is no obvious reason why this board shouldn´t work. From the specs it look as it is a ULV version of a standard Intel 945 chipset paired with a ULV (100% x86 compatible) version of a CPU. I´m very interested in this board as it is a low power solution.
They are not available here in sweden yet. At least no shops have them in stock.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2008, 10:12:01 am »
roberto99.
Hi all

The motherboard INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC is out now.
It really looks like a potential MD platform. Low power consumption most of all and small in size.

A german review can be found here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/de/atom-230-Hyperthreading-945GCT-D,testberichte-240070.html
An english review of atom here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-cpu,1947.html

I would like to start this topic to discuss experiences by users.
Apparently it is not availabel in shops yet (at least here in Switzerland), but should hopefully soon be ready to ship.

Looking foreward

cheers
Roberto

I don´t agree with previous poster.
However as with everything new expect to do some research first or even buy one unit just to test and see how it works.

There is no obvious reason why this board shouldn´t work. From the specs it look as it is a ULV version of a standard Intel 945 chipset paired with a ULV (100% x86 compatible) version of a CPU. I´m very interested in this board as it is a low power solution.
They are not available here in sweden yet. At least no shops have them in stock.

/niz23

Hi Niz,

agreed 100%.... all the ATOM based products & motherboards announced todate (as far as I am aware at least) are based on the I945 chipset with the GMA950 GPU and therefore should be supported at least as well as other 945 based motherboards. The issue will be more to do with performance if anything.

We are just about to test a bunch of these so I'll report on these and add a wiki page for them when we have some data.

All the best

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2008, 03:12:53 pm »
Hi,

Sorry, but I still don't like the idea of buying the latest and greatest because normally the support isn't there out of the box.

For LMCE you are better off using "proven" equipment.

As an example, you don't need the latest Nvidia graphics card when an older card at a quarter of the price works perfectly.

The problem with the MOBO and Fedora 9 is my fault.

I let the shiny "silent" cooling tubes and all the buzz words impair my better judgement.

Again, I apologize if I offended anyone.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2008, 03:31:36 pm »
pigdog.
Hi,

Sorry, but I still don't like the idea of buying the latest and greatest because normally the support isn't there out of the box.

For LMCE you are better off using "proven" equipment.

As an example, you don't need the latest Nvidia graphics card when an older card at a quarter of the price works perfectly.

The problem with the MOBO and Fedora 9 is my fault.

I let the shiny "silent" cooling tubes and all the buzz words impair my better judgement.

Again, I apologize if I offended anyone.


You have not offended anyone.

And what you state it completely true for a newbie and a person that does not know much about lmce/linux.

Totallymaxed already said that he will test this mb and see if it work. I´m pretty tempted to buy one myself just to test.
We need to expand the supported hardware category and this is the only way. Try new stuff.

There is probably things that won´t work out of the box
I have several IBM M51 machines with 945 chipset that work out of the box.
And others with the same chipset that does not. At least not with UI2.

The problem is that the intel graphics driver shipped with ubuntu 7.10 contains a couple of bugs.
One of them affect the systems ability to use hardware overlay which UI2 need. Luckily it does not affect all 945 based graphic cards but some.
I have no clue at the moment how to distinguish between which ones work or not. One solution is to compile the latest driver available from Intel.

Intel have pretty decent drivers for the linux community with source and all. If the driver contrary to many others can offload video precessing to graphic card I believe the atom cpu will be more than enough.

/niz23

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2008, 11:24:57 pm »
So what motherboard did you get then pigdog?
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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2008, 07:56:06 pm »
Hi Zaerc,

I bought this card about 4 months ago...

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/msi_k9a2_platinum/

I put in an AMD X2 6400+ and 2 gig of DDR2 PC2-6400.

Had freezing, sound and usb problems.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2008, 03:41:16 pm »
Hi Zaerc,

I bought this card about 4 months ago...

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/msi_k9a2_platinum/

I put in an AMD X2 6400+ and 2 gig of DDR2 PC2-6400.

Had freezing, sound and usb problems.

What a shame, looks like a nice board.  Have you tried extra boot parameters like: "acpi=off noapic nolapic irqpoll all_generic_ide pci=nomsi"?.  I had to add those for mine to work under Kubuntu hardy (8.4), while it worked fine with Feisty (and lmce-0710).  I'm still not sure all of those are actually needed in my case but I got tired of rebooting and these worked for me.  It seems I had issues with the SATA controller, wich is probably the same as on your board (SB600 Chipset).
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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2008, 04:13:52 pm »
Hi Zaerc,

The biggest thing I did was about a three weeks ago I wiped the 64bit installation and went with the 32bit.

Now on initial boot (before udev) the system reports 4 consecutive "acpi: error attaching device data" messages.

I've looked through dmesg didn't see anything critical. 

Thought I might just try acpi=off noacpi but right now the only thing that I've noticed is that Firefox crashes occasionally (probably something I've done).

The only sata device is 1-HDD.  2 IDE CD/DVD's.  Board only has 1 IDE connector and onboard serial port pin outs.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2008, 10:02:17 am »
Hey, totallymaxed , do you have any news about your testing with this board. Any confirmation what works and what doesn't.
We would all apreciate to know more about your work. Thanks
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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2008, 03:29:36 pm »
Hey, totallymaxed , do you have any news about your testing with this board. Any confirmation what works and what doesn't.
We would all apreciate to know more about your work. Thanks
cheers
Roberto

 Roberto,

 I am trying to get an Asus Eee Box out of my supplier for Testing. They are the first guys in town to actually have stock on it. So right now they are about 150$ overpriced. I have shown them several web-sites with the prices quoted at 269 - 299 but they won't budge. Heck they would not even show me the box yesterday when I was in there. I finally got to see one hooked to the back of a 15" Lg monitor that they are using as there POS machine for the store. I hope to get one out of them this week to play with. It has all the specs of the above board you mention, and they are so tiny, they are going to make a perfect md if they work ok. I will report back when I have one in my hands. I hope that is this week.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2008, 05:59:01 pm »
Hey, totallymaxed , do you have any news about your testing with this board. Any confirmation what works and what doesn't.
We would all apreciate to know more about your work. Thanks
cheers
Roberto

So far testing looks very promising on the D945GCLF. The AVwizard needs some changes to configure the GMA950 correctly but thats no big deal.

Video performance under UI2 + Overlay is excellent.

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2008, 06:36:40 pm »
Hi Andrew

This is great news! I belive this could give a nice boost to the whole project. Mainly because of availability, size and prize of this mainboard - the week link in the needed hardware I would say. I had to search a long time to find a compatible AND still available (in Switzerland) board for my core, and now we all might get a good, low power and newly released itx mainboard WITH UI2 + support available anywhere.

Keep on the good work! and thanks for all your  postings

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Re: INTEL D945GCLF, Atom 230 (1.6 GHz), i945GC out now - compatability?
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2008, 12:49:38 pm »
Hey, totallymaxed , do you have any news about your testing with this board. Any confirmation what works and what doesn't.
We would all apreciate to know more about your work. Thanks
cheers
Roberto

 Roberto,

 I am trying to get an Asus Eee Box out of my supplier for Testing. They are the first guys in town to actually have stock on it. So right now they are about 150$ overpriced. I have shown them several web-sites with the prices quoted at 269 - 299 but they won't budge. Heck they would not even show me the box yesterday when I was in there. I finally got to see one hooked to the back of a 15" Lg monitor that they are using as there POS machine for the store. I hope to get one out of them this week to play with. It has all the specs of the above board you mention, and they are so tiny, they are going to make a perfect md if they work ok. I will report back when I have one in my hands. I hope that is this week.

 rgds,
 
 Dave

Well based on our experience with the Intel D945GCLF I would expect the Asus Eee Box to perform at least as well graphically.

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