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Re: Dianemo S from CHT - Ubuntu 12.04LTS Release Now Shipping World Wide!
« Reply #420 on: September 13, 2014, 08:00:07 pm »
I understand that you feel you need to protect it. However I don't think that it will really take of quickly if it is not really open. My feeling saids we need some companies like yours or in other areas (and preferably bigger) that really support and push forward the system. I think it's to risky business wise to build on software like this if it is not really open (and no big company supporting it, and even those fuck up most of the time in the long run somewhere). It could work if the base is open (like linuxmce and you have some nice add-ons that make it more smooth but the basic should function.

However since the relative little response here in the community I suppose most here are cheapskates not willing to donate even one penny to make it really open. Never expected it to be that way. The only excuse is that it is not clearly stated that your work will make linuxmce also get rid of the current constrictions (and to me that is also still not clear).

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Re: Dianemo S from CHT - Ubuntu 12.04LTS Release Now Shipping World Wide!
« Reply #421 on: September 15, 2014, 03:58:35 pm »
I understand that you feel you need to protect it. However I don't think that it will really take of quickly if it is not really open. My feeling saids we need some companies like yours or in other areas (and preferably bigger) that really support and push forward the system. I think it's to risky business wise to build on software like this if it is not really open (and no big company supporting it, and even those fuck up most of the time in the long run somewhere). It could work if the base is open (like linuxmce and you have some nice add-ons that make it more smooth but the basic should function.

However since the relative little response here in the community I suppose most here are cheapskates not willing to donate even one penny to make it really open. Never expected it to be that way. The only excuse is that it is not clearly stated that your work will make linuxmce also get rid of the current constrictions (and to me that is also still not clear).

We want Open Dianemo to be as 'open' as we can make it while balancing the commercial side of our business. The challenges of just using GPLv3 for the whole of Dianemo are many - we've already had some experience of other companies trying to re-sell Dianemo as theirs. So there is some resistance to opening that flood gate (it might only be a trickle ;-)...but that might still be pretty damaging commercially). If we were a large business that could just 'out develop' any competitor that came along and used forked a GPLv3 Open Dianemo release then that would be ok. But we could find that a relatively well funded competitor took our source and built a competing product using it - that could leave us in a situation where we loose.

We're doing our best to find a middle ground and I think we have a pretty good one right now. We will Open Source something like 80% (a rough estimate...could be more or a little less) of the code and place the remainder under a new DPL. If you make code changes to the GPL parts of Open Dianemo then those changes will remain Open. If you make changes to the DPL parts of Dianemo then those changes would remain under the DPL, but accessible freely for non-commercial use. The only restriction on the DPL will be for commercial use - and we will have a range of commercial licensing options for all sizes of business. Those options will span everything from a one person 'mom & pop' sized business up to big commercial partners. The licensing costs for the 'small guy' will be very reasonable indeed - we want those businesses to exist and thrive. There are many forum members that have wanted to build businesses around Dianemo over the years - and i mean considerably more than 250+ over the years, we've always had to turn them away as we could not offer them a commercially viable (for them) deal. So that will change completely. The licensing deals will  increase in price based on the scale & type of business that needs the license. But for everyone else there will be a free and open version they can do whatever they want with - and if anyone subsequently wants to build a business off the back of their private use/experience of Open Dianemo then at any time they can do that, simply by getting a commercial license at the price point that fits their business size.

I think that will be seen by most people as reasonable - at least I hope so.

An we would welcome LMCE taking our Open Dianemo source and integrating it with the LMCE code base. Yes there would be that approx. 20% that would be DPL but for personal use that would have no impact at all.

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Re: Dianemo S from CHT - Ubuntu 12.04LTS Release Now Shipping World Wide!
« Reply #422 on: September 15, 2014, 05:26:31 pm »
An we would welcome LMCE taking our Open Dianemo source and integrating it with the LMCE code base. Yes there would be that approx. 20% that would be DPL but for personal use that would have no impact at all.

What I meant was replace the LMCE parts so that LMCE will be totally open. We already have a personal license.

Looking at the state of the current kickstarter campaign fills me with nothing but sadness. Either something is wrong with what is communicated or it is not communicated through enough channels. Can any of the (linuxmce&dianemo) users here comment why they don't support it and what would make them change their mind and start backing the project???

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Re: Dianemo S from CHT - Ubuntu 12.04LTS Release Now Shipping World Wide!
« Reply #423 on: September 15, 2014, 06:47:04 pm »
What I meant was replace the LMCE parts so that LMCE will be totally open. We already have a personal license.

Looking at the state of the current kickstarter campaign fills me with nothing but sadness. Either something is wrong with what is communicated or it is not communicated through enough channels. Can any of the (linuxmce&dianemo) users here comment why they don't support it and what would make them change their mind and start backing the project???

Well that's kind of what I meant too re bringing code back into LMCE.

Re the lack of backers on Kickstarter - we've actually had a lot of feedback via email and of course none of that is visible on Kickstarter. Of course we'd have loved for the current Kickstarter project to have got backed by thousands of people. But if we don't meet our goal then we will put together a new Kickstarter project with a different set of goals and a range of other changes too. So yes it's frustrating but it's also a great lesson too.

I'd obvious be very pleased if forum members post their views on our Kickstarter here as you suggested. Any and all perspectives/views will be listened to and welcomed.

All the best

Andy

PS Any suggestions re the current, or indeed future, Kickstarter campaigns would be best posted here in this thread so that everyone can see them. I've had some PM's from quite a few people - I appreciate your input very much. But can i ask that if you have any positive or negative suggestions (keep it clean please ;-) ) then please post them here unless they also contain anything private. Thanks.
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 02:08:10 pm by totallymaxed »
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New Athena Orbiter & UI Layer Screenshots
« Reply #424 on: September 24, 2014, 03:35:32 pm »
I've posted a few new images of ongoing Athena UI Skin development to our Facebook page. In the past I've posted images like these here directly, but this time I'm testing just posting a link to the Facebook post instead (feedback welcomed on this);

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dianemo-Home-Automation/226019387454465?hc_location=timeline

In the new screenshots you will see we've added new icons for Lighting & Climate at the far right-hand end of the icon bar. The second image shows a 'work in-progress' screenshot of the lighting screen complete with dynamic sliders for dimming lights. I'll be posting more of these in the coming weeks as things develop.

As ever if you have any questions about Dianemo or Athena please post them here and i will do my best to answer them.

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New Athena Orbiter & UI Layer - Media Playback
« Reply #425 on: September 26, 2014, 05:04:56 pm »
Just in time for your weekend enjoyment we've posted another demo video of the Athena UI in action. This time my co-worker Steve is demoing our newly added support for video media browsing & playback controls. This time we're also demonstrating the fact that the Athena Orbiter can be accessed from any modern web browser by doing the demo on a MacBook in Safari.

We'll be uploading more videos in the next few weeks as we implement more of the Athena UI. If you have any questions about the Athena UI or any other aspect of Dianemo please post them hear.

http://youtu.be/zZNbyPvTbhQ

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Dianemo Fall 2014 Offers - Please PM me to Purchase
« Reply #426 on: September 30, 2014, 01:23:31 pm »
We have some great new bundle deals on Dianemo Software Licenses (Current release is for Ubuntu 12.04LTS Desktop) and related software & services. These bundle deals give you big discounts over buying the individual licenses - Please PM me here if you want to purchase any of the offers below;
Note: all offers are available world wide to non commercial customers ie if your a pro-installer you DO NOT QUALIFY.

UPDATE - Our entry level bundle is now priced at just $199 USD and includes a free copy of our Raspbmc-CEC software for Rpi and until the end of Oct you'll be included in the Athena Orbiter Beta test program when it launches (see the Athena section below for video demos...lookout for new videos weekly..hopefully!).

We have a few more Athena UI Beta program invites to give away to anyone who already has a system - see here; http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=13783.msg100342#msg100342 Don't delay requesting one if you would like to get early access to Athena and already have a system.

A number of people have asked if they could get a 'group' discount when ordering multiple license bundles? The answer is yes we would offer a 15% discount if the order is for 4 or more licenses (all paid for via single Paypal account).

PM me if you have any questions or would like to place an order. Thanks - UPDATE

License Bundle 1 - This bundle include 1x Dianemo Software License & 1x Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC license for the Rpi for an incredible $199 USD (a special deal - it's normally $299). We'll also offer you early access to the Athena Orbiter/UI beta program if you purchase before the end of Oct (see below for video demos). This is a great starter bundle for anyone wanting to build a truly low energy Smart home with the low cost/Low energy Rpi as their media player or anyone just experimenting before deciding on their final setup. More Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC licenses can be added at any time (see our Raspbmc-CEC license bundles below). All Dianemo licenses include free updates and upgrades to 14.04LTS (when available) and are infinitely expandable without limitation to cater for your future needs.

License Bundle 2 - This bundle include 1x Dianemo Software License & 4x Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC license for the Rpi for $399 USD (a $300 savings over our standard prices). We'll also offer you early access to the Athena Orbiter/UI beta program if you purchase before the end of Oct (see below for video demos). This is a great value bundle for anyone wanting to build their own mid-sized, 4 media zone low energy Smart home. More Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC licenses can be added at any time (or any other kind of device). All Dianemo licenses include free updates and upgrades to 14.04LTS (when available) and are infinitely expandable without limitation to cater for your future needs.

License & Config Bundle 3 - This bundle include 1x Dianemo Software License & 2x hours of remote configuration by us to get your basic system configuration in place for $299 USD (a $250 savings over our standard prices). We'll also offer you early access to the Athena Orbiter/UI beta program if you purchase before the end of Oct (see below for video demos). All Dianemo licenses include free updates and upgrades to 14.04LTS (when available) and are infinitely expandable without limitation to cater for your future needs.

License Bundle 4 - If you already have a Dianemo system you can purchase the Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC Upnp Media Player Software separately starting at just $59.95 for a single license http://www.ellipticalcurve.com/dianemo-products-services/. Turns a Rpi into a full blown Upnp media player & CEC controller. We have our own CEC control package and have integrated that with Raspbmc. This allows you to run your Dianemo system without MD's. Works with most recent HDMI equipped TV's. Allows you to get 'SmartTV' type features without needing to purchase a new SmartTV. Image installs on an SD card. Boots into Raspbmc on Rpi & requires just a few simple config changes in Web Admin on your Dianemo NC. **Note: If you have already purchased a license and would like the new installer instead of the original SD card image then please contact me and I will make it available to you**

System Design or Configuration  - If your planning to install Dianemo in your home and would like some help with the planning of your installation then please get in touch. Alternatively if you'd like some help configuring your system in anyway then we can help you by using Remote Assistance. For either of these services or if you have a question regarding Dianemo please get in touch via PM here or email inquiries@ellipticalcurve.com

The all new Athena Orbiter UI - coming as an update to all Dianemo systems in Dec 2014
You can see our new Athena Orbiter in action here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQAeGia26A&authuser=0

and also our latest updates here;

http://youtu.be/zZNbyPvTbhQ

...and a first video of the new Athena iOS App;

http://youtu.be/Mb6woOP2GW4


All Offers must be paid for by Paypal (no other payments accepted).

All the best


Andy
« Last Edit: October 24, 2014, 03:39:08 pm by totallymaxed »
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Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC Firmware
« Reply #427 on: October 14, 2014, 01:17:43 pm »
We've taken your feedback on-board regarding our original Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC firmware images and we have moved over to a new installer for Dianemo Raspbmc-CEC firmware. Now you just install Raspbmc on an SD card and then run the installer from the booted card to install - and that's it. Any customer who has an original firmware image and would like the new installer should contact me.

We have updated installation instructions for the new installer here;

http://www.ellipticalcurve.com/dianemo-products-services/

If you have any questions related to Raspbmc-CEC then contact me here; help@ellipticalcurve.com

Thanks

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Re: Dianemo S from CHT - Ubuntu 12.04LTS Release Now Shipping World Wide!
« Reply #428 on: October 24, 2014, 10:44:58 pm »
Totallymaxed, I am aware of your stance on UI2, but is UI2 WITH alpha blending even a option in dianemo setups?

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Re: Dianemo S from CHT - Ubuntu 12.04LTS Release Now Shipping World Wide!
« Reply #429 on: October 24, 2014, 11:47:30 pm »
Totallymaxed, I am aware of your stance on UI2, but is UI2 WITH alpha blending even a option in dianemo setups?

Media managers can be configured with with UI2 with alpha blending without any problem. But all of our current UI skins are only implemented for UI1 without Alpha. So this would mean that if you were to configure an MM with UI2 + alpha you would find that there were no UI skins that would provide all of the screens and UI2 menu items you would need to interact with all of Dianemo's latest features. Of course you could build your own UI2 + alpha skins that fully implement the missing menu's and screens if you know HADesigner and have the time.

Of course we also have our new Athena Orbiter and UI skins. These UI skins are designed in and built from HTML5 and going forwards you should expect that there may well be new system features that will only have UI's implemented in HTML5 and that over time UI1 skins will be deprecated. But the big win with Athena for users is the accessibility of designing skins without needing to understand complex and unfriendly tools like HADesigner.

All the best

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