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Mobile Orbiters
« on: January 31, 2008, 08:28:54 pm »
Hello,

Is some one working on the mobile orbiters, is there a way to make them work, will java be a good solution, or flash.

native applications i think are out of discussion  but a java will work on most modern phones s60, wm6

is there a place to find the sources ??

will a bounty for this project will help the community to regain the mobile orbiter in a phone.


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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2008, 09:19:23 pm »
there is currently no-one in the volunteer pool working on a mobile orbiter, we'd love someone to jump in!

The source code is in SVN at http://svn.charonmedia.org/ (instructions for grabbing there)

PlutoMO, BD, and BluetoothDongle are what you're interested in.

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2008, 09:50:39 pm »
there is currently no-one in the volunteer pool working on a mobile orbiter, we'd love someone to jump in!

The source code is in SVN at http://svn.charonmedia.org/ (instructions for grabbing there)

PlutoMO, BD, and BluetoothDongle are what you're interested in.

-Thom

I could give hints regarding JSR082, RA and a serialize class for java. Someone with j2mee experience could hack the phone part together in a week or two.

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2008, 10:22:31 pm »
hari,

I have some j2mee experience.. but I'm hip deep in Home Automation right now.
Maybe when I finish (if ever) I'll attempt it.

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2008, 02:55:10 am »
I think this is one of the best things, because not only it can be used as a remote control, but also will let you control your home from the outside, receive notifications.

i can port $ 400 to get this started,

Thanks

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2008, 03:56:28 am »

Or instead of sending the money y can send a mobile phone for developing and testing.

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2008, 07:05:25 pm »
Frodmda,

Appreciate the $400.00..

This undertaking is quite large, considering my Java experience was quite a while ago.

Anyone else want to put up tokens to get this going? 

BTW, It LOOKS like 3 of us are going to attempt it together.. Myself, Hari, and TSCHAK.

KEEP IN MIND, we all have our OWN projects we are working on..

Hari's working on ZWAVE and PS3 porting, and the MUCH needed SQLCVS
TSCHAK is working on MAME (with HUGE WOW factor)
I'm working on ThreadedRuby/Insteon/PLCBUS

Heh, $400 doesn't split 3 ways well.. and for the amount of work, (guessing 3-4 weeks with all three of us) well, you get the picture..

I would suggest: this token $400. (if it's still offered) be put into a 'Donation Fund' (Once we get the Java Orbiter working of course)

This 'Donation Fund' can be used to sponsor further development.

What do you guys think?

Regards,

Dan

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2008, 07:54:00 pm »
Is some one working on the mobile orbiters, is there a way to make them work, will java be a good solution, or flash.

native applications i think are out of discussion  but a java will work on most modern phones s60, wm6

is there a place to find the sources ??

will a bounty for this project will help the community to regain the mobile orbiter in a phone.

What about a super lightweight Mobile Orbiter that's just the Web Orbiter available over WAP?

That seems like the fastest way to get to at least basic functions. If someone wants to upgrade that kind of Mobile Orbiter, I'd love to see it work over local Bluetooth rather than over the WAP WWAN.

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2008, 08:22:11 pm »
*hmm*

that is essentially what PlutoMO _is_.

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2008, 08:49:11 pm »
Frodmda,

Appreciate the $400.00..

This undertaking is quite large, considering my Java experience was quite a while ago.

Anyone else want to put up tokens to get this going? 

BTW, It LOOKS like 3 of us are going to attempt it together.. Myself, Hari, and TSCHAK.

KEEP IN MIND, we all have our OWN projects we are working on..

Hari's working on ZWAVE and PS3 porting, and the MUCH needed SQLCVS
TSCHAK is working on MAME (with HUGE WOW factor)
I'm working on ThreadedRuby/Insteon/PLCBUS

Heh, $400 doesn't split 3 ways well.. and for the amount of work, (guessing 3-4 weeks with all three of us) well, you get the picture..

I would suggest: this token $400. (if it's still offered) be put into a 'Donation Fund' (Once we get the Java Orbiter working of course)

This 'Donation Fund' can be used to sponsor further development.

What do you guys think?

Regards,

Dan



Please tell me where to send the money or where the donation fund is in order to transfer the funds.

if your going to send personal information please contact me via e-mail to frod at aitelecom dot net

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2008, 01:00:13 am »
Matthew,

Aye Karumba!

I swear, it seems like the only reason you post is to get your post count up...

now now, don't get all upset.... you deserved that one...

Frodmda,

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.. There is STILL a major stumbing block we have to hurdle..
That is JSR082 Support..

Basically, that's the API that allows Java to talk to Bluetooth.  If the phone doesn't support that, then it won't work.

I'm still trying to get the emulator to emulate JSR082.. for some reason, it's not working for me.

I've also pm'd Arron.b askingl if we could get the Java Serialize code... if it's already written (and we think it is, for the Tivo Project).

I'll let you know when he gets back to me.

Regards,

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2008, 02:29:05 am »
maybe set up a "fund raiser" to get this funded at http://www.fundable.com?  I would surely donate towards the cause...

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2008, 02:34:55 am »
Matthew,

Aye Karumba!

I swear, it seems like the only reason you post is to get your post count up...

now now, don't get all upset.... you deserved that one...

Frodmda,

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.. There is STILL a major stumbing block we have to hurdle..
That is JSR082 Support..

Basically, that's the API that allows Java to talk to Bluetooth.  If the phone doesn't support that, then it won't work.

I'm still trying to get the emulator to emulate JSR082.. for some reason, it's not working for me.

I've also pm'd Arron.b askingl if we could get the Java Serialize code... if it's already written (and we think it is, for the Tivo Project).

I'll let you know when he gets back to me.

Regards,

Dan


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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2008, 02:59:46 am »
Ideally, as with the current Orbiters, it should 'sense' if you are home, and switch to 'bluetooth' mode..
when it senses you are not at home, it switches to 'data' mode sms/gprs/whatever...

There's more of a chance of having JSR 082 support than there is of having 802.11 support..
Most phones, if not all newer ones, are bluetooth capable, whereas not all of them are wifi capable..

HTH

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Re: Mobile Orbiters
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2008, 12:13:11 am »
Matthew,

Aye Karumba!

I swear, it seems like the only reason you post is to get your post count up...

now now, don't get all upset.... you deserved that one...

I suppose you've also got a good reason not to use the Web Orbiter as a Mobile Orbiter.