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Creating A Mirror
« on: January 29, 2008, 07:42:02 pm »
I was interested in setting up a download mirror for linuxmce, however, I have been unable to find much information on this.

I need to know how much BW I could expect to use monthly.

Thank you for your time and cooperation in this matter.

Thanks,
Jim

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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 07:43:20 pm »
I was interested in setting up a download mirror for linuxmce, however, I have been unable to find much information on this.

I need to know how much BW I could expect to use monthly.

Thank you for your time and cooperation in this matter.

Thanks,
Jim

I really think that torrents are the way to go..  that is IF everyone will seed....

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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 09:35:32 pm »
Seems to me that seeding the existing torrents is an ideal way to mirror as well since you have control over how much/fast you upload.
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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2008, 01:40:57 am »
I disagree about the Torrents.  It's a great concept, but the reality is they always end up extremely slooooooooow and can take days to pull down something that should take a few hours.

It's like bringing home a fat chick,  sounds like a good idea at 2:00 am.  But the end results are never good.

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2008, 06:02:31 am »
I disagree about the Torrents.  It's a great concept, but the reality is they always end up extremely slooooooooow and can take days to pull down something that should take a few hours.

It's like bringing home a fat chick,  sounds like a good idea at 2:00 am.  But the end results are never good.

Spoken like a true leech.  ;D If people would bother to seed... it should only take a few hours.  But I guess complaining is easier then helping out and carrying your own weight for a change.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2008, 02:46:59 pm »
I disagree about the Torrents.  It's a great concept, but the reality is they always end up extremely slooooooooow and can take days to pull down something that should take a few hours.

It's like bringing home a fat chick,  sounds like a good idea at 2:00 am.  But the end results are never good.

I disagree...  after the torrents were posted for Beta3, I downloaded the 64-bit DVD, the 32-bit DVD and the 64-bit and 32-bit CD's..  all in about 2 days...  The first DVD I started late one afternoon and the next morning it was done...  not bad for nearly 4GB...  I saw no issue with speed....

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2008, 03:36:17 pm »
I disagree about the Torrents.  It's a great concept, but the reality is they always end up extremely slooooooooow and can take days to pull down something that should take a few hours.

It's like bringing home a fat chick,  sounds like a good idea at 2:00 am.  But the end results are never good.

Spoken like a true leech.  ;D If people would bother to seed... it should only take a few hours.  But I guess complaining is easier then helping out and carrying your own weight for a change.

Your right, IF people would seed AND have decent upload speeds (Usually not the case with DSL or less).  But most don't or just can't.  Not to mention there are some ISPs that block torrents.  The other catch to torrents is people only seed if the are downloading at the same time so it only works well if alot of people want the same thing at the same time. 

Like I said, the concept is great but their are other factors involved that make it tough to work the way it should. In turn making it a very slow process.

 If someone has the ability to put up a mirror we should be all for it.

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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2008, 05:34:04 pm »
I disagree about the Torrents.  It's a great concept, but the reality is they always end up extremely slooooooooow and can take days to pull down something that should take a few hours.

It's like bringing home a fat chick,  sounds like a good idea at 2:00 am.  But the end results are never good.

Spoken like a true leech.  ;D If people would bother to seed... it should only take a few hours.  But I guess complaining is easier then helping out and carrying your own weight for a change.

Your right, IF people would seed AND have decent upload speeds (Usually not the case with DSL or less).  But most don't or just can't.  Not to mention there are some ISPs that block torrents.  The other catch to torrents is people only seed if the are downloading at the same time so it only works well if alot of people want the same thing at the same time. 

Like I said, the concept is great but their are other factors involved that make it tough to work the way it should. In turn making it a very slow process.

 If someone has the ability to put up a mirror we should be all for it.

I agree if someone wants to setup a mirror and foot the bill... thats great. Both mirrors and torrents can coexist in my view.
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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 07:45:26 pm »
I disagree about the Torrents.  It's a great concept, but the reality is they always end up extremely slooooooooow and can take days to pull down something that should take a few hours.

It's like bringing home a fat chick,  sounds like a good idea at 2:00 am.  But the end results are never good.

Spoken like a true leech.  ;D If people would bother to seed... it should only take a few hours.  But I guess complaining is easier then helping out and carrying your own weight for a change.

Your right, IF people would seed AND have decent upload speeds (Usually not the case with DSL or less).  But most don't or just can't.  Not to mention there are some ISPs that block torrents.  The other catch to torrents is people only seed if the are downloading at the same time so it only works well if alot of people want the same thing at the same time. 

Like I said, the concept is great but their are other factors involved that make it tough to work the way it should. In turn making it a very slow process.

 If someone has the ability to put up a mirror we should be all for it.

I agree if someone wants to setup a mirror and foot the bill... thats great. Both mirrors and torrents can coexist in my view.

And still the best (not to mention most efficient) way to mirror, is to simply seed the torrent.  Having a few good solid dedicated seeders (instead of mirrors) should solve any possible speed issues instantly, better then any mirror ever could.

Apart from that, a bunch of people have reported broken downloads from plain mirrors in the past and having to download over and over again, this problem is non-existant with torrents and you don't have the hassle of having to reassemble parts only to discover the md5sum doesn't match. 

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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 08:41:07 pm »
I have been thinking about looking into how to upload it to a newsgroup. I know i typically prefer to download large ISO files and updates from newsgroup postings due to the speed i get over any other download method with a good newsserver.

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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2008, 12:46:38 am »
Yeah  had had that idea myself as similarly I use newsgroups a lot.
However I dont think it is something a arge number of people have access to.

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Re: Creating A Mirror
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2008, 01:23:00 pm »
In my experience, torrents are far superior to standard http/ftp mirriors, always maxing out my d/l speed on distros.

And if one plans to set up a normal mirror, one can just as well set it up as a seedbox for the torrent.

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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2008, 07:54:37 pm »

And still the best (not to mention most efficient) way to mirror, is to simply seed the torrent.  Having a few good solid dedicated seeders (instead of mirrors) should solve any possible speed issues instantly, better then any mirror ever could.

Apart from that, a bunch of people have reported broken downloads from plain mirrors in the past and having to download over and over again, this problem is non-existant with torrents and you don't have the hassle of having to reassemble parts only to discover the md5sum doesn't match. 


I have thought of the same thing over and over again! There would be no more slow torrents nor would there be such a big strain on the mirrors as it would all be spread out evenly *and* everybody who downloads it would be giving *something* back, no matter how fast they are, every bit helps... Literally!

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2008, 08:00:42 pm »

And still the best (not to mention most efficient) way to mirror, is to simply seed the torrent.  Having a few good solid dedicated seeders (instead of mirrors) should solve any possible speed issues instantly, better then any mirror ever could.

Apart from that, a bunch of people have reported broken downloads from plain mirrors in the past and having to download over and over again, this problem is non-existant with torrents and you don't have the hassle of having to reassemble parts only to discover the md5sum doesn't match. 


I have thought of the same thing over and over again! There would be no more slow torrents nor would there be such a big strain on the mirrors as it would all be spread out evenly *and* everybody who downloads it would be giving *something* back, no matter how fast they are, every bit helps... Literally!

When I downloaded 7.10 in 64 and 32 bit version...  my speeds were generally in the 600-800K range....  that's fast...  I don't think I've ever gotten higher than that from a mirror...  in my experience torrents are just as fast if not faster...  IF enough people seed....  and with the built-in checking of the file, you can't beat it...

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2008, 08:09:48 pm »
600-800k? Aah, such divine speeds!

I used to have nice speeds, 550kb/s at best, when I lived in the city. But now I'm back in this farmer-like-village, so 300kb/s really is the best I can do...

Being surrounded by nature is fun, but *daaammnnn* my adsl speeds! :P

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