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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2008, 09:02:17 am »
Andrew,

like this http://mantis.linuxmce.com/view.php?id=3798?

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Line 112 of your script still has sipgate still instead of 1und1. I looked at Zaerc's and your scripts to make sure I caught everything. Just happened to noticed you missed that one. I've never submitted anything in Mantis and am new to this whole deal so I apologize if I stepped on any toes.

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Peer review is what this is all about Jason! Thanks for spotting that :-)
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2008, 09:03:08 am »
Posted ViaTalk US-Central (Chicago server) http://mantis.linuxmce.org/view.php?id=3801

I was going to do the other three servers (west, east, and beta), but couldn't find the addresses anywhere. Had to pull the Chicago server address from my Linksys adapter.  :)

Hey Jason thanks... much appreciated ;-)
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2008, 09:05:27 am »
I'd like to provide my Swedish provider. I have an * server running on a Gentoo box at the moment serving as my VoIP gw.

Is there a particular file that I just can grab from it and send to you (this thread)?


No there is not at present. Currently to add a new provider you will have to follow the instructions in my post above... the provider setup has to be added to the Perl code provided.

Ok, I can see a few ten lines in the beginning that seems to be what I have to edit. IP, username, passwd etc. That's about what I remember that I had to put into * to get it up and running, without any extra features..

Your Perl file seem to be quite long, do I have to look through the whole thing or would it be enough to just put in the provider details in the beginning? That is what scared me off a bit ;o)

Totallymaxed - I would be interested in the answer to this as well. I have a website (http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/) that list 264 Australian VSP/VoIP providers. I will SPAM them all asking for their assistance in modifying this script to add them to the list, but I need to know exactly what instructions to give their technical people. Obviously, only a fraction of these providers will respond positively, but any direction I can give them will increase the uptake. So can you point to the areas that you think will need modifying by each provider?

Will do Colin... expect a follow up in a few hours :-)
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2008, 09:08:25 am »
I have sent out an email to all the Australian residential VoIP providers that I could find a sales email address for - total of 102 providers. So far only about 5 or 6 have bounced back as invalid or otherwise, so it remains to be seen whether they seize the opportunity! Here is a copy of the email in case you are interested:

Dear Australian VoIP Service Provider
 
I write to you with an opportunity for your organisation - if this is not the correct email address, please could you forward this to your Sales and/or Business Development team.
 
I am representing the software development team for Linux Media Center Edition - Linux MCE - in Australia on this subject. This product provides TV, DVD, video, audio and other forms of media into a "whole of house" distributed entertainment system integrated with a full telephony/PABX, home automation, Internet access, home security and many other features. The media player functionality alone far outstrips anything that Microsoft Windows MCE can provide - and yet it still goes much further. This product is fully Free and Open Source Software (FOSS), under a GNU GPL licence - meaning that anybody can download and install it free of charge or restrictions, and even redistribute it at will.
 
You will have noticed that I mentioned Telephony - it uses an integrated Asterisk PABX server to provide voice, voice mail, intelligent routing, security breach call out/back-to-base, conferencing, etc with a connection to a VoIP Service Provider such as yourselves.
 
Currently, the system has a small number of (non-Australian) VSP's preconfigured for auto-setup. The developers are finalising the next major version release in the next couple of weeks - it is currently in Beta2 testing. They are very keen to extend the list of supported VSPs in all countries around the globe and have made an open invitation to have VSPs customise the configuration script specifically for their service - this would mean that during the Linux MCE setup, when asked for your VSP, your company name would be listed as an option so that the user could simply click and start using VoIP over your network.
 
As I say, this is an Open Source project, so there would be no charge associated with this, nor any commitment beyond what you already commit to your customers - however, I'm sure that you can see that this could be a significant opportunity for your company to increase sales by having that level of visibility and ease of configuration.
 
If you are interested in your company being included in the next release of Linux MCE, please reply to me ASAP and I will supply you with the configuration script. Once your technical people have customised this for your service, you can send it back to me, and I will have it included in the upcoming release. Please note - I do not have the resources available to configure the script for you. If you wish to be included - you need to make a commitment for your technical people to configure this script. You should also be prepared to provide a temporary test VoIP account so that we can test the configuration before it is frozen for release.
 
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Great Colin. Thanks. Lets hope you pickup some responses!
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2008, 03:40:03 pm »
Have got about 6 or 7 positives so far and passed on the script. Couple of abusive emails (whatever!) But one service provider who franchises his VoIP to over 100 others is interested, looked at the demo and called me today to discuss, is interested in offering it to all his people, so that would be good - config is the same so should just be a matter of copying the script many times with a different "VSP" name on each!

BTW - if anyone else wants to use the same direct approach, don't make the same mistake I did - bcc: not to: them all! I wanted to encourage them to compete a bit by seeing competitors on the list. Most were OK with this, but a small number were very abusive indeed! Oh well, commercial vs "community" as one put it ...

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2008, 03:48:28 pm »
Have got about 6 or 7 positives so far and passed on the script. Couple of abusive emails (whatever!) But one service provider who franchises his VoIP to over 100 others is interested, looked at the demo and called me today to discuss, is interested in offering it to all his people, so that would be good - config is the same so should just be a matter of copying the script many times with a different "VSP" name on each!

BTW - if anyone else wants to use the same direct approach, don't make the same mistake I did - bcc: not to: them all! I wanted to encourage them to compete a bit by seeing competitors on the list. Most were OK with this, but a small number were very abusive indeed! Oh well, commercial vs "community" as one put it ...

Great response Colin. Cheers :-)
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2008, 09:29:39 pm »
Andrew, maybe we should set qualify to 10 or something like this...
It ensures that the phone line is tested every 10 seconds with a sip-options-packet and initiate a re-register, if the line broke down. and it keeps the udp-ports open...
For those of the users without a static ip address or a nat-router, that option is vital...

see: http://wiki.linuxmce.org/index.php?title=Asterisk
and: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+sip+qualify

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Valid point Chewi. Can you create a separate Mantis please that raises those issues and i will make sure one of the Pluto Devs looks into it next week. Thanks

Done here: http://www.linuxmce.org/mantis/view.php?id=3811

Added Sipgate.de as well with qualify=10 and type=friend in [number]. Don't know if type=user works: http://www.linuxmce.org/mantis/view.php?id=3812

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2008, 09:35:46 pm »
Sorry, I accidently added it to LinuxMCE-Project instead of LinuxMCE0710-Project...

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2008, 12:39:18 pm »
Sorry, I accidently added it to LinuxMCE-Project instead of LinuxMCE0710-Project...

OK. np... will make sure it gets picked up ;-)
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2008, 09:23:43 pm »
I'd like to provide my Swedish provider. I have an * server running on a Gentoo box at the moment serving as my VoIP gw.

Is there a particular file that I just can grab from it and send to you (this thread)?


No there is not at present. Currently to add a new provider you will have to follow the instructions in my post above... the provider setup has to be added to the Perl code provided.

Ok, I can see a few ten lines in the beginning that seems to be what I have to edit. IP, username, passwd etc. That's about what I remember that I had to put into * to get it up and running, without any extra features..

Your Perl file seem to be quite long, do I have to look through the whole thing or would it be enough to just put in the provider details in the beginning? That is what scared me off a bit ;o)

Totallymaxed - I would be interested in the answer to this as well. I have a website (http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/) that list 264 Australian VSP/VoIP providers. I will SPAM them all asking for their assistance in modifying this script to add them to the list, but I need to know exactly what instructions to give their technical people. Obviously, only a fraction of these providers will respond positively, but any direction I can give them will increase the uptake. So can you point to the areas that you think will need modifying by each provider?

Will do Colin... expect a follow up in a few hours :-)

Totallymaxed - did you get a chance to look into this?

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2008, 09:29:42 pm »
I'd like to provide my Swedish provider. I have an * server running on a Gentoo box at the moment serving as my VoIP gw.

Is there a particular file that I just can grab from it and send to you (this thread)?


No there is not at present. Currently to add a new provider you will have to follow the instructions in my post above... the provider setup has to be added to the Perl code provided.

Ok, I can see a few ten lines in the beginning that seems to be what I have to edit. IP, username, passwd etc. That's about what I remember that I had to put into * to get it up and running, without any extra features..

Your Perl file seem to be quite long, do I have to look through the whole thing or would it be enough to just put in the provider details in the beginning? That is what scared me off a bit ;o)

Totallymaxed - I would be interested in the answer to this as well. I have a website (http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/) that list 264 Australian VSP/VoIP providers. I will SPAM them all asking for their assistance in modifying this script to add them to the list, but I need to know exactly what instructions to give their technical people. Obviously, only a fraction of these providers will respond positively, but any direction I can give them will increase the uptake. So can you point to the areas that you think will need modifying by each provider?

Will do Colin... expect a follow up in a few hours :-)

Totallymaxed - did you get a chance to look into this?

Yes I did Colin... I updated my original post with Perl source with additional comments indicating the lines that may need updating/changing. Sorry you may have missed that.

Andrew
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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2008, 09:49:00 pm »
Cool - thx, will take a look now.

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2008, 09:55:04 pm »
hmmm... damn! Didn't realise it would have so much LMCE specific stuff that needed to be changed. The VSPs are not going to know how to modify many of those lines, and I don't know anywhere near enough about it all to help them...

RichardP - are you around? If I start getting questions from them, do you think you would know how to modify these scripts, and perhaps I could direct them to you?

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2008, 03:40:07 am »
hmmm... damn! Didn't realise it would have so much LMCE specific stuff that needed to be changed. The VSPs are not going to know how to modify many of those lines, and I don't know anywhere near enough about it all to help them...

RichardP - are you around? If I start getting questions from them, do you think you would know how to modify these scripts, and perhaps I could direct them to you?

I hadn't seen this thread until I got PM'ed. I'm not up to speed yet, but it's very relavant to me.

Short answer is Yes. Even if I have difficulty at first, I'll be able to figure it out.

I'll be starting looking at Voip provider Gotalk first, as I'm currently with them, and by the time questions start coming through, hopefully I'll have something mildly intelligent to add. I'll keep you posted.

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Re: Help us build more Phone Line providers into 0710!
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2008, 11:05:46 pm »
Out of curiosity...

Has there been a suggestion as to the segregation of the numerous providers in LMCE? Are these going to be separated by locale, or simply a _very_ _long_ list to choose from?

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