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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2008, 05:16:13 pm »
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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #31 on: January 02, 2008, 01:40:41 am »
Hari/Niz23 - just want to mention, it is more than just Europe that PLCBUS could "fill the gap". The vast majority of the world uses 220+ v and 50Hz. All of Europe, Africa & Middle east (bar one country each!), Asia (except Japan), Australia, New Zealand, Oceania and parts of South America.... esp with the massive growth in some Asia countries (obviously China and India!) this would dramatically expand the applicability of LMCE as a meaningful Home Automation system. I think we should be saying "outside N. America"! I'm in Australia, so also stuck with the same crap X10  :(

BTW, dan, thanks for all your work in this area and looking into PLCBUS when it doesn't directly benefit you :)

And a link to a great map on Wikipedia for power v/Hz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WorldMap_Voltage%26Frequency.png
« Last Edit: January 02, 2008, 01:52:31 am by colinjones »

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2008, 03:31:57 am »
colinjones,

That's a nice read!  thanks for the link.

I have never being outside of NA, and as such, haven't experienced  any 50Hz systems..

although I did go on a cruise once, and there were both 50Hz and 60Hz plugs in the cabins...

interesting...

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #33 on: January 02, 2008, 11:49:08 am »
1) I think I should make sure to order some PLCBUS equipment as well
    Did any of you find a good webshop with ok prices? ;o) I've only found automation@home so far, it's always nice to have more than one...
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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #34 on: January 02, 2008, 11:59:17 am »
Posterberg,

1) I think I should make sure to order some PLCBUS equipment as well
    Did any of you find a good webshop with ok prices? ;o) I've only found automation@home so far, it's


I have found this site,
http://www.elekhomica.nl/index.php?cPath=135

I have not yet compared prices.

It would be nice to have a place to buy from in sweden, to keep freight cost down.
Strange it does not exist yet, since plcbus have been on the market for several years.

Anyone know a shop in sweden that sell plcbus equipment?


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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2008, 12:01:31 pm »
BTW, dan, thanks for all your work in this area and looking into PLCBUS when it doesn't directly benefit you :)

The way I see it, good quality HA is going to be the KEY to wide adoption.

I've always been 'tinkering' with HA.. I think my first X10 device was a Radio Shack HomePlug.. lol

I was getting very frustrated with the progress of quality HA drivers for lmce, hence, I 'bit the bullet' and learned Ruby..

Now that I know a bit more about it.. <hehe> and looking here at how many people CAN'T use Insteon..  and looking at how simple PLCBUS is, it only makes sense to integrate it..

I doubt it will have the same integration level as Insteon (the protocol doesn't allow for it), but I'll make a quality BIDIRECTIONAL driver for it.
You'll have to add each lighting device in LMCE manually.. shouldn't be a problem... it's dead simple...

The nice features of zwave and insteon are that the protocols are advanced enough to 'sniff' out all the devices, and add them to lmce accordingly.  That's what I've tried to do with the Insteon driver.. and from what I've read, thats also what the ZWave driver did.

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #36 on: January 02, 2008, 12:03:13 pm »
I'm going to start a poll to see how many people will use PLCBUS.
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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #37 on: January 02, 2008, 12:07:58 pm »
The nice features of zwave and insteon are that the protocols are advanced enough to 'sniff' out all the devices, and add them to lmce accordingly.  That's what I've tried to do with the Insteon driver.. and from what I've read, thats also what the ZWave driver did.

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Yep... thats exactly what the current  z-wave driver does
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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2008, 01:46:19 pm »
I have found this site,
http://www.elekhomica.nl/index.php?cPath=135
i have ordered from them, too. As i have the price lists from the manufacturer i can say they make good deals.
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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2008, 02:11:50 pm »
Hari.

I have found this site,
http://www.elekhomica.nl/index.php?cPath=135
i have ordered from them, too. As i have the price lists from the manufacturer i can say they make good deals.

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Do you want to share that price list?

Anyone know what´s the smallest quantity the chinese manufacturer accept?
I believe as almost all manufacturer there should be possible to do a sample order for evaluation.

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2008, 02:39:57 pm »
Do you want to share that price list?
you can request it from Shanghai Super Smart.
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Anyone know what´s the smallest quantity the chinese manufacturer accept?
they also sell quantities =< 10pcs. They have big discounts for larger quantities.
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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2008, 03:03:45 am »
did a small config utility:
http://svn.charonmedia.org/trac.cgi/browser/home/hari/plcbus-tool/plcbus.c

user code is hard coded atm.

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2008, 07:26:44 am »
The nice features of zwave and insteon are that the protocols are advanced enough to 'sniff' out all the devices, and add them to lmce accordingly.  That's what I've tried to do with the Insteon driver.. and from what I've read, thats also what the ZWave driver did.

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Dan

Yep... thats exactly what the current  z-wave driver does

Are you using Z-Wave? I thought it was 110volt only! I'd love something like Z-Wave for 220v/50Hz. Any suggestions?

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2008, 10:51:53 am »

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Are you using Z-Wave? I thought it was 110volt only! I'd love something like Z-Wave for 220v/50Hz. Any suggestions?

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Re: PLCBUS
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2008, 01:53:50 pm »
Ok, just spent 3 hours on hari's box...
got some promising results from his PLCBUS stuff..
Implemented ON/OFF/DIM/BRIGHT..

code is below:
http://rafb.net/p/7XnPwT61.html

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