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Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« on: September 17, 2014, 05:14:07 am »
I am trying to get an orbiter working on my cell for outside my network but while i'm at home as well.  I want to have access while at work or out of state.  I have messed with all versions a little but cannot get outside to work.  I really like the UI of web orbiter.  Don't really like the Qorbiter UI.  Is it better to add orbiter on admin page and set up then install to phone or other way around?  I have a pic view of my firewall rules.  Does it matter if i select qorbiter or generic proxy orbiter to add since its going on my cell phone?  I have the galaxy s3.  Huge thanks in advance for any reply's.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2014, 12:49:56 pm »
What are you trying to do from the outside? Maybe iOrbiter is another option (svn co http://svn.linuxmce.org/svn/people/posde/iOrbiter /var/www/iOrbiter ) - after that http://dcerouter/iOrbiter/iOrbiter.php will show you the iOrbiter which has been designed for small screens. It is not feature complete, in case stuff goes wrong, just refresh the screen. And make sure to set a room and user upon startup. atm it does not do any kind of authentication, so keep that in mind.

For the web based orbiters you need to port forward TCP/80.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2014, 01:14:11 pm »
Hi,

iOrbiter seems nice. Any screenshots, docs  ?

Thanks,

regards,

Bulek.
Thanks in advance,

regards,

Bulek.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2014, 01:39:19 pm »

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2014, 01:04:24 am »
Right now i am only using it for lighting, just being able to mess with that wile away until i get my security cameras finished but once i have outside assess its one thing less on the to do list.  I will try iorbiter thanks.  Any time i have set up an orbiter the inside access via port 80 is default and works fine.  Did i have the ports setup correctly in my firewall?  infor in attached pic.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2014, 01:20:17 am »
The first link just takes me to a list of pages which all only show a bunch of code,  the 2nd link shows

The requested URL /iOrbiter/iOrbiter.php was not found on this server.

Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu) Server at dcerouter Port 80

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 10:02:45 am »
cperk4,

read the wiki page that I linked.

EDIT: I've added a pic of the main page of iOrbiter, just so you get an idea of how it is suppose to look.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2014, 07:38:23 pm by posde »

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2014, 03:08:48 am »
Great! Thank you! Ill give that a try over the weekend. Can you only get outside access via a web browser or will the downloadable apps provide that with the proper settings?  i work swing shift and didnt get any sleep due to going to a job fair and have to leave again soon.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2014, 11:27:40 am »
Browser only. No need for an app. What you might want to do is, setup a VPN to your system. That way you at least a bit safer.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2014, 10:35:32 pm »
yeah im not sure i want to go the vpn route lol  everyone on this forum would end up blocking me.  Ill look into it thanks.

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2014, 09:15:18 am »
I don't understand how you connecting to your LinuxMCE installation via VPN has any regards towards this forum?!

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2014, 02:42:04 pm »
I am trying to get an orbiter working on my cell for outside my network but while i'm at home as well.  I want to have access while at work or out of state.  I have messed with all versions a little but cannot get outside to work.  I really like the UI of web orbiter.  Don't really like the Qorbiter UI.  Is it better to add orbiter on admin page and set up then install to phone or other way around?  I have a pic view of my firewall rules.  Does it matter if i select qorbiter or generic proxy orbiter to add since its going on my cell phone?  I have the galaxy s3.  Huge thanks in advance for any reply's.

This response is a little off track but bare with me - first some background on how we provide remote access in Dianemo; Currently Dianemo only has an 'official' iOS Orbiter App. This is a native iOS App written in Objective-C. Our iOS App does support both access to Dianemo inside your home and a secure access when you are away from home (as long as you have an internet connection). Remotely our iOS Orbiter, or a Web Orbiter running in a browser, can connect back to your Dianemo system home securely using our Remote Access service whereby your Orbiter connects to Cloud based Remote Access service and this provides a secure connection back to your Dianemo system at home.

But of course you want a solution that works on an Android device not iOS. In late December this year we will release an update that contains our new Athena Orbiter UI layer. See here for a video demo of the Athena Orbiter running on an iPad and demonstrating one of our prototype HTML5 UI skins; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KQAeGia26A&authuser=0


Our Athena Orbiter is written in HTML5 and will run in any modern HTML5 compliant browser on any OS - so Android will be supported day one. We will also have an updated iOS App and a new Android App that will implement our new Athena code too at that time. Athena will also support our Remote Access Cloud service mentioned above. When Athena is released we will also provide several example HTML5 based UI skins that will be fully documented so that if you wanted too you could modify or duplicate a skin and use it as a starting point for your own fully customised Orbiter UI design. You would need to understand some HTML5 to make changes but thats all - you would not need to understand in dept the rest of the system to make changes to the UI.

None of this will initially apply to LinuxMCE but late next year some of the full Athena UI layer may be made available in LinuxMCE too. In the meantime we are looking for people to become part of the beta test program for Athena which we expect to start in late Oct or early Nov (you do need a Dianemo installation to participate in this though)

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2014, 06:00:50 am »
i just meant due to asking to many questions about the vpn

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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2014, 09:35:42 am »
i just meant due to asking to many questions about the vpn

Sure. Remote access on Dianemo doesn't require a VPN though.
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Re: Android mobile/cell phone orbiter selection & help
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2014, 11:40:46 am »
Any type of remote access not done via VPN is a bad idea. Whether your own system is the VPN endpoint, or you trust a third party to route all your traffic is up to the individual.