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SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« on: March 03, 2012, 08:52:23 pm »
Hi,
Has anyone ever successfully used a Merten battery operated switch as an inclusion controller with the LinuxMCE controller in SUC/SIS mode? Or with Merten stuff, an aeon labs inclusion controller and a tricklestar in linuxmce (not sure if that would be worth the trouble)?
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Mark

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2012, 12:38:07 am »
no, yes
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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2012, 09:55:39 am »
no, yes

Hari, how did you manage that associations between AC operated devices and battery switches, all from within LinuxMCE?

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2012, 10:23:13 am »
yes
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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2012, 10:50:50 am »
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Good, I will try that and let the forum know if (that) it works well with Dianemo S, too!

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2012, 06:04:40 pm »
Good, I will try that and let the forum know if (that) it works well with Dianemo S, too!


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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2012, 08:57:53 pm »
Hi all,
Just got a chance to try this, but I think I am doing it right. There is a very elaborate wiki but I think I am too thick to get it  :-[
I have a tricklestar device in my core. I have on a previous occasion transfered all my merten switches to a Vera V1 stick. One of the Merten battery switches holds to entire config, also.
So, I reset the tricklestar. I reload router. I then press add device. What do I do then? The wiki speaks of pressing 'up' but I have no idea where I am supposed to do that... It's a bit of a hassle but I could also remove the merten switch and put that into inclusion mode by tapping three times, would it work to "add device" to the tricklestar, then put the merten switch in inclusion? And does it transfer the whole set of devices at once?
Thanks,
Mark (obviously new to this whole suc/sis thing!)

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Merten Holland claims to not support SUC/SIS
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 04:24:49 pm »
Hi all,

Just had someone from Merten Holland on the phone, he claims that Merten equipment does not support SUC/SIS. He had no idea what that was, in fact.
As far as I know, it is part of the z-wave protocol that they support in their switches. Looks like cripled devices to me. Can anyone confirm (or contradict) this?

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2012, 05:00:19 pm »
their controllers do not support suc/sis. E.g. you cannot use a battery powered remote switch as inclusion controller. What you can do is using their devices in a network with a SIS and an inclusion controller. E.g. I use the following devices:

* Aeon Labs USB Dongle as SIS, for the Core
* Aeon Labs Remote as inclusion controller, to add/remove devices from the network
* A bunch of Merten switches and dimmers
* A bunch of other devices (smoke alarm, door sensor, whatever)

that works fine and without any issues. The Merten switches/dimmers are very high quality. Just be aware that the electronic switches make a silent hum noise. I did pull additional ground wires to the places and used the relays insert where I found that annoying (guest bed room). Dimmers are silent, too. Overall I'm very happy with the Merten units (more than 15 devices).
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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2012, 09:37:34 pm »
Hi Hari,
Thanks. I like them, too. It is just annoying that their support sometimes is a bit "difficult". I have one DC switch now that cannot be reset anymore. A known problem with early devices. But tech support basically says: tough. He's going to ask around if something can be arranged, I sure hope so!
Hari, do you have a minimote, like below, or just another stick?
http://www.aeon-labs.com/site/storage/products/images/medium/minimotewhite2_1260459057.jpg
« Last Edit: March 15, 2012, 09:48:52 pm by Domodude »

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Merten swtiches, electronic vs relay version
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2012, 08:33:06 am »
Just be aware that the electronic switches make a silent hum noise. I [...] used the relays insert where I found that annoying (guest bed room).
As a reminder for future Merten users: the electronic switches are also more peculiar about the type of load that they can control, if memory serves they do not do well with inductive loads. Since the electronic switches are cheaper, make sure that they are appropriate for the situation before you buy them!

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 08:27:43 pm »
Hi Hari,
Thanks. I like them, too. It is just annoying that their support sometimes is a bit "difficult". I have one DC switch now that cannot be reset anymore. A known problem with early devices. But tech support basically says: tough. He's going to ask around if something can be arranged, I sure hope so!
interesting.. I've only seen this with remote switches in the past but that was years ago..

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Hari, do you have a minimote, like below, or just another stick?
http://www.aeon-labs.com/site/storage/products/images/medium/minimotewhite2_1260459057.jpg
the minimote.

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 08:52:28 pm »
interesting.. I've only seen this with remote switches in the past but that was years ago..
I think we are talking about the same kind of device, it is the battery operated (DC, as opposed to 220V AC) switch which by itself does not really do anything. It's an old unit, from the "early days"...

And I'll get a minimote, I guess.

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Re: SUC/SIS ZWave Merten
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 09:36:43 pm »
I think we are talking about the same kind of device, it is the battery operated (DC, as opposed to 220V AC) switch which by itself does not really do anything. It's an old unit, from the "early days"...
ah right, yes, that is the unit I meant. I did send mine to merten to get this fixed. They now work without issues.
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