Workgroup Wiki/Manual

[bongowongo]

Reacting will result in that you commit to these rules and that you will do effort for this project, unless you already proved your commitment to LinuxMCE

This is an attempt to create a structured workgroup to establish the following:

What

• What the workgroup will be about
• re-doing the manual?
• re-organise the wiki?
• maintaining the wiki!/manual

Who
People who cannot code, but want to help
People with common sense
People with endurance (deadlines will be made and kept)
People with team spirit

Why
It is needed, but it is not possible to let this be done by one person, or persons who do not commit themselves to the task.
Experience tells me, a lot is said, and done for 2 - 3 months and the initiator flies away. I want to prevent this. That is why we need a team.

What not
People who think they can influence the direction of the Dev's
People who think they gain power and influence doing this
People who do not listen
People who think that managers are the greatest asset to a company (they are not, I know, I am a manager)
People who think that tedious jobs will be done by others


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Ok I am going to something evil and wrong here, just like Napoleon.
But I am going to crown myself manager of this project

Not because I need the extra work, or I want to hostage LinuxMCE, but I think it is needed for this type of project.
Later we can decide otherwise.

Reacting will result in that you commit to these rules and that you will do effort for this project, unless you already proved your commitment to LinuxMCE

If you mingle in the discussion you will are a participant of the project, let's put the money where the mouth is.
Blurting out ideas is not what I am seeking. Open to suggestions of course.

Reacting will result in that you commit to these rules and that you will do effort for this project, unless you already proved your commitment to LinuxMCE

[golgoj4]

groovy. So is there going to be a wiki page laying out open tasks and such or are we going to use trac to file tickets against wrong or outdated information?

-golgoj4

[bongowongo]

groovy. So is there going to be a wiki page laying out open tasks and such or are we going to use trac to file tickets against wrong or outdated information?

-golgoj4

Good point
We have to asses the wiki, and make small tasks. Otherwise it is not doable.
I prefer it not to be in SVN, but maye a sticky topic.

[bongowongo]

0810
1 netboot MD 3 orbiters 15.6GB with no media on the drive

Just an example of info in another forum-post we can thrive on
A simple forum post.

[bongowongo]

ok last post for several days, but look at this google

http://www.google.nl/#sclient=psy&hl=nl&biw=994&bih=891&source=hp&q=plcbus&pbx=1&oq=plcbus&aq=f&aqi=g5&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=10870l11740l0l11874l6l5l0l0l0l0l305l1080l0.2.2.1l5l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=3b3ac27929253a8b

I know it is a niche market, but we are apperantly the only with the knowledge
In the end we will be a knowledge powerhouse, if we organise the wiki properly, and that will attract a lot of positive attention.
 
Well that is what we should aim for.

[purps]

Thanks for volunteering to lead this bongowongo, it will certainly need your tenacity.

I'm in.

Whilst we do need to "get on with it", assessing the wiki as you said and planning carefully how we go about sorting it is important.

Cheers,
Matt.

[klovell]

I'll help out. 

However, Between my 9-5 (which is more like 7-6), my clients on the side, my new born, and most importantly my wife, I don't know how much time I'll be able to commit.  I'll give it a shot but this will come after all the above.  I know everyone has a story but I'm just setting your expectations for me.

How will we be coordinating our efforts (email, PMs, IRC, or posts)?

[Techstyle]

I am also in (but have similar constraints to Klovell)

[fibres]

Im definatly in. I unfortunatle do not have the head or aptitude to code, drives me up the wall.

I am good a documentation though. I will find time in amongst my other commitments.

Regards

[bongowongo]

In the end I didn't go away for a few days, lucky you!

So we have a

fibres
Techsyle
Klovell
Purps
BongoWongo

Welcome aboard

I agree that time is an issue for everybody.
But if we divide everything into smaller tasks it doesn't matter that you have little time at least if you keep your promisses if you take a task upon you.

The wiki is huge and dis-organized.
I saw a lot of ideas going around

Just putting it out there.
Some tasks that need to be done.

Make it more clear / easier for newbies
We have to redo the manual / frontpage wiki, the important part about this that it needs to be maintained. If we have the proper people with skills, redo the youtube video

We lack uniformity
Try to come up with some form of standardisation for that pages, this is going to be a rough one

Maybe a new task is to make a self-help advisory page
e.g. how to report a trac ticket, where the logs are, how to get into irc etc etc etc etc. So information about bugs can be presented to dev's more easily. A lot of time I see in IRC dev's explaining where to get information to see what is wrong.

[nzlneil]

I'd like to put my hand up to help. I do have similar constraints as some of the others, but will do what I can as I can.

[Dan249]

I want to help also!

[bongowongo]

I'll help out. 

However, Between my 9-5 (which is more like 7-6), my clients on the side, my new born, and most importantly my wife, I don't know how much time I'll be able to commit.  I'll give it a shot but this will come after all the above.  I know everyone has a story but I'm just setting your expectations for me.

How will we be coordinating our efforts (email, PMs, IRC, or posts)?

I propose we use this topic to identify tasks, and then make forum post of them

We can also make a wikipage, to make an overview of who is doing what.

Maybe it is best to firstly make a draft of manual/frontpage/howto's instead of making it directly in the now present wiki pages.

Also, welcome Dan249 and nzlneil

[DragonK]

Hi,

Im back, so add me to the list pls.

Karel

[bongowongo]

Hi wiki's

So here is updated list of participants

fibres
Techstyle
Klovell
Purps
BongoWongo
DragonK
Dan249
nzlneil

Also I have made an attempt for a first task
Frontpage of the wiki

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php/board,347.0.html