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« on: March 30, 2005, 06:33:44 am »
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I'm very new to the Pluto concept and I have spent the last week reading as much as I can. I must say that what I have seen so far is impressive and I'm looking forward to performing my first install to see how it works. I have an old PC which I will be using as my core and another PC which I shall use as a MD. This initial setup will be run completely in a test senario so there will be no AV equipment involved to begin with. Is that going to be a problem? I'm assuming that I can view the results on the monitor that will be connected to the PC acting as the MD, are my assumptions correct?

I have a lot of media on multiple machine which I will eventually want to relocate onto the core but I have found no information on achieving this, is it still "under development"? My Linux experience is limited but I'm again assuming that the media is placed within a directory and it will then be available. I have all my CDs contained within iTunes and would prefer to transfer them rather than having to re-rip them all again.

Does Pluto perform lookups on IMDB and CDDB to retrieve movie and CD information, cover art etc. and is this automated?

If my testing is successful I will then be moving to a purpose built core, which I'm planning to build. I was thinking of using a 3ware RAID card as the controller, are the drivers for these cards included within the installation CD? Does Pluto allow for RAID expansion? It would be better if an extra hard drive can be installed and it incorporated into the core automatically, rather than having to destroy the array and recreate it with the new drive. This allows you the option of creating a rather small core and then expanding it as the need arises.

Thanks again for a great looking product and I hope to become an active member of this group.

Dave

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Re: New Install, noobie help
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2005, 06:07:06 pm »
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I'm very new to the Pluto concept and I have spent the last week reading as much as I can. I must say that what I have seen so far is impressive and I'm looking forward to performing my first install to see how it works.

It's nice to hear that. Welcome.
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I have an old PC which I will be using as my core and another PC which I shall use as a MD. This initial setup will be run completely in a test senario so there will be no AV equipment involved to begin with. Is that going to be a problem? I'm assuming that I can view the results on the monitor that will be connected to the PC acting as the MD, are my assumptions correct?

You don't need anything special to see the interface. You need a color monitor that does 800x600@60Hz (for now this is fixed, in the future we may give the use an option to change the resolution and refresh rate - hints on the refresh rate are welcome), a keyboard and a mouse, all attached to the MD.
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I have a lot of media on multiple machine which I will eventually want to relocate onto the core but I have found no information on achieving this, is it still "under development"? My Linux experience is limited but I'm again assuming that the media is placed within a directory and it will then be available. I have all my CDs contained within iTunes and would prefer to transfer them rather than having to re-rip them all again.

Any media that can normally be played by Linux can be played by Pluto too. The problem comes when you use encrypted or proprietary media formats, like encrypted DVDs and maybe the iTunes. I am not familiar with the iTunes format, but as far as I know it's not portable.

You should also be aware that our current releases are development releases. We are very careful not to break an upgrade between releases (which is done automatically) and currently we haven't got any reports on systems broken at upgrade, but it's still development.
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Does Pluto perform lookups on IMDB and CDDB to retrieve movie and CD information, cover art etc. and is this automated?

Pluto doesn't currently query IMDB, CDDB or other content information sources. It is planned, but as an extra that will be included by the user himself because of licensing issues.
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If my testing is successful I will then be moving to a purpose built core, which I'm planning to build. I was thinking of using a 3ware RAID card as the controller, are the drivers for these cards included within the installation CD? Does Pluto allow for RAID expansion? It would be better if an extra hard drive can be installed and it incorporated into the core automatically, rather than having to destroy the array and recreate it with the new drive. This allows you the option of creating a rather small core and then expanding it as the need arises.

The 3ware RAID controller is supported by the Debian system that we keep our system on top of. How you make your partitions and how you manage the array doesn't concern Pluto (yet). Pluto doesn't include any graphical partitioning and RAID management tools explicitly. But if it's in Debian, it's also in Pluto :) You can use the tools provided by the newbielink:http://www.debian.org/ [nonactive] through their package system using apt-get/aptitude.

This does not mean that Pluto doesn't interfere with the Linux configuration. Pluto changes at boot time several configuration files using data from its databases, since most of its stuff is database-driven. There is no interference with the disc configuration though, so you can safely resize partitions and RAID arrays as you see fit and to the extent permited by the system tools as you would do in a normal Linux system.

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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2005, 05:13:22 am »
Thanks for the answers. I'm looking forward to starting the install.

With that in mind I have another question, roughly how much data is downloaded during the install of the core? I understand that the kick start CD puts the base down and then the rest is downloaded and installed via a script. I ask this because in Australia our telecomunications industry is a little dictatorial and limits the amount of data you can download per month. Once you reach your monthly level the speed of your connection is dropped to 64kbps, which is painful to say the least :(.

At least it's a new month tomorrow and I will be back at full speed for the install :)

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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2005, 09:24:59 am »
Unfortunately, at the moment we're still posting a development build, which means Pluto is built with debug symbols and the files are very, very large.

However, all Pluto's files are on the kick-start cd.  If you have that already, it  will just get the files it needs off the cd.  There are only a few, small 3rd party pieces that it downloads from the internet.

The bigger issue is that we release a new build every week, and since our program includes those debug symbols, each weekly update is around 120MB.  It will be a fraction of that size once we have a testing version.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2005, 10:35:35 am »
I have to add something to what Aaron said.

The packages are taken from the CD only if the CD matches the version on the site. Otherwise it will download the packages from the Net since it tries to have the newest packages, not the CD packages. This is by design.