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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 05:06:29 pm »
I think a R-Pi MD would be the best of both worlds. A LMCE-controlled XBMC R-Pi would also be interesting. I can't say I've had many issues with the MDs themselves. Is what your suggesting more reliable simply because it's not running its OS via the cable? Because a media player is still a standalone piece of hardware that can potentially fail.

Cheers,
Matt.

Of course anything can fail due to hardware failures or software issues. But I actually cannot think of the last time we had either problem with a media player - or a SmartTV for that matter. MD's do often fail due to software issues and partially due to their far greater complexity (there's a lot going on under the hood in an MD!) and the somewhat 'creaky' software architecture they are built on (there's a lot in their that no one really understands). The MD is really a big gas guzzling Cadillac of a media player that for most of the time adds no real advantage and lots of disadvantages. Back in the day when MD's were first created there was no alternative - Pluto had to roll their own 'media player'. But now there are alternate approaches that offer many advantages - as long as you don't want to watch live TV via VDR's front-end ot the Myth equivalent.

PXE booting is not in itself unreliable but if your systems needs to go down then with PXE booted MD's they have to go down too - media players don't.

All the best

Andy
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Marketplace / Update - New HTML5 Orbiter & UI Preview **New Images**
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 04:53:26 pm »
This image and the ones that follow show updated screen captures from our new HTML5 Orbiter. Updated graphics and layouts and both landscape & portrait orientations of the same screen to show how the Orbiter dynamically adapts the layout based on orientation.

Did you spot the bug in this screen and the previous one...?
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Marketplace / Update - New HTML5 Orbiter & UI Preview **New Images**
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 04:51:52 pm »
This image and the ones that follow show updated screen captures from our new HTML5 Orbiter. Updated graphics and layouts and both landscape & portrait orientations of the same screen to show how the Orbiter dynamically adapts the layout based on orientation.
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Marketplace / Update - New HTML5 Orbiter & UI Preview **New Images**
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 04:48:53 pm »
This image and the ones that follow show updated screen captures from our new HTML5 Orbiter. Updated graphics and layouts and both landscape & portrait orientations of the same screen to show how the Orbiter dynamically adapts the layout based on orientation.
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by purps on August 22, 2014, 04:45:16 pm »
Matt - see my earlier post in this thread re LiveTV etc. But the short answer is you can watch live TV via you actual TV - we provide control of the TV for this purpose and you can also watch live TV via any STB's you have controlled by your system too (either locally in the room or sometimes via a video matrix for a larher install where you have centralised STB's distributed through an HDMI Matrix).

Yes you do loose the Orbiter UI on the TV... but you have it instead on your tablet or smartphone instead. The UI then is right in your hand... and you can switch to any room/device and control it without having any TV's on at all...or turn a TV on from tablet/smartphone if you want to etc etc.

All the best

Andy

Gotcha. I always liked the idea of the centralised TV feed, and then TV in other rooms was just an Ethernet cable away. I used to use that extensively (we don't watch TV any more). However I guess you still get that with what you are saying regarding the use of a video matrix.

I have smartphone, jogglers etc running orbiter, so I guess I could live without the onscreen orbiter, however I still use it, but that might just be because it's there.

I think a R-Pi MD would be the best of both worlds. A LMCE-controlled XBMC R-Pi would also be interesting. I can't say I've had many issues with the MDs themselves. Is what your suggesting more reliable simply because it's not running its OS via the cable? Because a media player is still a standalone piece of hardware that can potentially fail.

Cheers,
Matt.
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 04:32:16 pm »
hmm. the whole idea (at least mine  :D) is to have all that centered and then stream from one point to the MD's/or other players. Pulling additional cables to tv's is not really an option in my case.
It's not that I don't trust the coverage or even the reliability with all the neighbor and babymonitor interferences but I personally try to decrease the RF exposure of my kids (wifi/gsm). I read so much about it (http://www.electricsense.com/) that I passed the point that I can just ignore it ;).

You don't need to pull additional cables. Just run everything over CAT5/6 - in most cases even if everything is centralised a single CAT5/6 cable is sufficient.

Re Wifi - everyone must take their own position on this. But I have not seen any solid science (including that site you reference) that says wifi signals are harmful or are any worse than the TV, Mobile Phone and dozens of other RF transmissions that 'wash' over us where ever we are in most locations (Amazon or deserts excepted). Even if I dont turn on my wifi router I have 100's of neighbors who have unless I build a faraday cage around my house I can't stop that RF coming in.
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by Esperanto on August 22, 2014, 03:40:24 pm »
Well if you want to watch Live TV then you can still watch it via your TV itself using its tuner or an external feed from an STB etc. For VDR/Myth then no you cant watch Live TV streamed directly from either of those servers. However with Myth & VDR (I think its tru for VDR) you can watch your recorded shows via upnp and a media player or SmartTV.
hmm. the whole idea (at least mine  :D) is to have all that centered and then stream from one point to the MD's/or other players. Pulling additional cables to tv's is not really an option in my case.

As to wired v wifi - we've found that if you provide enough wifi coverage (ie multiple AP's located throughout your home to make sure coverage is good) then wifi performs well. I would say 95% or more of our installations/users in the last 2-3 years are using wifi because they use smartphones/tablets for their Orbiters.
It's not that I don't trust the coverage or even the reliability with all the neighbor and babymonitor interferences but I personally try to decrease the RF exposure of my kids (wifi/gsm). I read so much about it (http://www.electricsense.com/) that I passed the point that I can just ignore it ;).
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 12:25:38 pm »
I really like the way you are going with it and have 2 questions that come to mind.

First is the same that I asked in the power saving topic I started and similar to possy's remark: is it possible to watch live mythtv that way (and control recordings etc, I have my tuners in my core).

Secondly I personally try to avoid wifi and have everything wired. Are there cheap solutions to have a fixed orbiter and are there remote like controllers (I currently have a gyration and a mele F10) that can still be used?

Well if you want to watch Live TV then you can still watch it via your TV itself using its tuner or an external feed from an STB etc. For VDR/Myth then no you cant watch Live TV streamed directly from either of those servers. However with Myth & VDR (I think its tru for VDR) you can watch your recorded shows via upnp and a media player or SmartTV.

As to wired v wifi - we've found that if you provide enough wifi coverage (ie multiple AP's located throughout your home to make sure coverage is good) then wifi performs well. I would say 95% or more of our installations/users in the last 2-3 years are using wifi because they use smartphones/tablets for their Orbiters.

You could use your Gyration/F10 but that would mean using MD's as you need a traditional TV Orbiter UI for those to work or make sense. Its your choice in the end.

When we ship our new HTML5 UI then that will not be available on an MD - or at least we wont be offering that. But anyone who wants to could develop an MD with it integrated if they wanted to ;-). The other possibility is to access the HTML5 Orbiter from a SmartTV using its Web browser...we've not tested that config yet...but as our Orbiter is just HTML5 there is no reason why that would not work at all ;-)

All the best

Andy
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 12:17:46 pm »
How do you deal with watching liveTV using a media player? Does the TV signal, whether it's satellite, freeview, cable, whatever, still go to the core?

Also do you lose the onscreen orbiter? If yes, while not a showstopper, I would say it's a disadvantage, it's great being able to do anything from anywhere.

Cheers,
Matt.

Matt - see my earlier post in this thread re LiveTV etc. But the short answer is you can watch live TV via you actual TV - we provide control of the TV for this purpose and you can also watch live TV via any STB's you have controlled by your system too (either locally in the room or sometimes via a video matrix for a larher install where you have centralised STB's distributed through an HDMI Matrix).

Yes you do loose the Orbiter UI on the TV... but you have it instead on your tablet or smartphone instead. The UI then is right in your hand... and you can switch to any room/device and control it without having any TV's on at all...or turn a TV on from tablet/smartphone if you want to etc etc.

All the best

Andy
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 22, 2014, 12:11:47 pm »
With regards to power usage, I have high hopes that rPi (or similar) based MD solutions will provide the best of both worlds:

1) standardized hardware
2) full MD

phenigma has been very busy with it, and I applaud his efforts.

Well hardware like Rpi would definitely deliver on the power usage front of course - the hardware in a Rpi is broadly similar to small media players. And I also applaud anyone, including phenigma, who actually does some real development and pushes the envelope in any direction. So I'm not knocking that effort or saying its in any way worthless at all.

But at the end of the day whatever hardware an MD runs on you still have additional complexity that I think for a very large number of people/installations is not an advantage. Yes if you want the VDR/Myth TV UI integrated then its probably the best route...but adding those to an MD (especially Myth) always causes some problems in my experience. And of course for Myth, and i expect this might be true too of VDR but I'm not sure, you can access recorded content via a media player or SmartTV - we still have installations where the MythTV backend is running on the Core and all the recorded shows are access via upnp on media players. As long as you aren't worried about live TV then that works well.

All the best

Andy
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