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Installation issues / Re: 12.04 Client Machines Can't Browse Some Websites
« Last post by davegravy on August 27, 2014, 07:24:09 pm »
10.04 configured my external NIC to MTU 1500

12.04 configured it to 576. I tried changing it to 1500 and haven't yet had the errors reported (they were happening quite frequently before... maybe once in 5 page loads). Will keep an eye on it.

How does the installer decide what to set the MTU to?
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Users / Re: Entertainment Areas without an MD
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 27, 2014, 06:45:43 pm »
Run /usr/pluto/bin/UpdateEntArea -e XX where XX is the entertainment area where you have your stuff associated with. That should generate the media scenarios. At least, it just did do that after I added a Squeezebox to one of my rooms.

mysql pluto_main -e "SELECT PK_EntertainmentArea, Description FROM EntertainmentArea"

will give you a list of all EA IDs.

If you go to Web Admin;

Wizards->Basic Info->Room

The numbers with a '#' in front of them are the EA ID for the room listed above.

All the best

Andy
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Users / Re: Entertainment Areas without an MD
« Last post by posde on August 27, 2014, 06:30:38 pm »
Run /usr/pluto/bin/UpdateEntArea -e XX where XX is the entertainment area where you have your stuff associated with. That should generate the media scenarios. At least, it just did do that after I added a Squeezebox to one of my rooms.

mysql pluto_main -e "SELECT PK_EntertainmentArea, Description FROM EntertainmentArea"

will give you a list of all EA IDs.
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Installation issues / 12.04 Client Machines Can't Browse Some Websites
« Last post by davegravy on August 27, 2014, 04:38:32 pm »
I have my old 10.04 server and a new 12.04 server that I've assembled and am testing (vanilla install, no modifications yet).

I have a win7 client and a win8 client. Both are having intermittent problems accessing certain websites via the new 12.04 core. Specifically, *.tumblr.com (and likely others I just haven't tested thoroughly yet)
  • On the win7 machine, Chrome reports ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE. Several refreshes and the page will usually load. I tried the same pages in IE and they also don't load but IE gives no useful debugging info.
  • On the win8 machine, Chrome reports ERR_CONNECTION_RESET for these pages.
  • These errors are thrown instantly. There is no time-out.
  • My android phone can access these sites reliably via Chrome.
  • I have no issues with web access on any client with the same configuration through the 10.04 server.
Anyone encountered anything like this or have suggestions to narrow down the issue? I've cleared the browser cache of all my browsers, restarted machines, etc to no avail.

EDIT: Found this which sounds like a similar symptom but I'm not on pppoe so not sure yet how or if this applies https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=182527


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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 27, 2014, 03:53:46 pm »
Thanks for the explanation Andy.
So if you add a sat box to the same room, controlled by the core, can you configure the the Rpi to switch the TV to the correct input for the sat box?

Itsik

Yes you can do that if the TV supports Input select via CEC (which most do). Obviously you need to get the HDMI signal from the STB to the TV but if their in the same room that just needs an HDMI cable. If the STB is remote from the room then you need to get the HDMI signal from the STB in the central rack, to the room, and that can be done with some HDMI over CAT5/6 transceivers (those require a dedicated CAT5/6 cable) or a pair of IP based HDMI over CAT5/6 transceivers that can send HDMI video over a standard gigabit CAT5/6 network cable.

All the best

Andy
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by Itsik on August 27, 2014, 03:46:41 pm »
Thanks for the explanation Andy.
So if you add a sat box to the same room, controlled by the core, can you configure the the Rpi to switch the TV to the correct input for the sat box?

Itsik
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 27, 2014, 02:57:07 pm »
Andrew, could you expand on that a little, mainly on controlling the Rpi and how do you attach it to a room with no MD ?

Thnx

If you have a recent SmartTV with a LAN connection then you can use that LAN connection to both stream HD video and to provide control of the TV too. Dependent on the TV make/model you may also need CEC control as well as this is the only way to turn on a TV from stand-by for example. In Dianemo we place the TV in the required room and then configure pipes to make sure commands & audio etc are routed correctly from the Core to the TV.

If you have an older TV that has no LAN capability then we can use a Rpi with our build of RaspBMC + CEC installed. The Rpi in this case then performs all the functions of the SmartTV above including using CEC control via the Rpi's HDMI port to power on/off and perform other commands/functions eg input select on the TV in some cases or Vol up/down/Mute. Again in Dianemo we place the TV + Rpi in the required room and then configure pipes to make sure commands & audio etc are routed correctly from the Core to, in this case, the Rpi. One of the big advantages of the Rpi is that not only do you get a great media player by installing RaspBMC but you also get a great CEC control device too for free.

You could also use a commercial media player + older TV - but this would not provide CEC control so in most cases the Rpi is the more economic & less complex solution.

There are a few other details in the above arrangements but thats the basis of how we configure systems with SmartTV's or Rpi + older TV's.

All the best

Andy
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by Itsik on August 27, 2014, 02:16:41 pm »
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With today's TV's you already have 'smarts' in the TV - just plug a network connection into the TV and it can be controlled from anywhere by any Orbiter. If your TV is slightly too old to have an on-board Network connection then install a Rpi running RaspBMC behind it and you can get all the same capabilities, including CEC control, on your existing TV.

Andrew, could you expand on that a little, mainly on controlling the Rpi and how do you attach it to a room with no MD ?

Thnx
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Users / Re: Entertainment Areas without an MD
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 27, 2014, 10:09:28 am »
This issue came up in another post I had

http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=13430.45

The inability to get media scenarios for entertainment areas that have not been configured with an MD. 

If anyone is interested in helping me get this to work properly I'd be happy to assist in any way I can. 

I have a fresh install of the latest 1404 dvd image with an entertainment area set up that has a TV, receiver, a cable box, and a dvd player.  No scenarios are generated, so it seems the issue still persists in 1404.  This exact setup worked perfectly with a 1204 install when I set it up using an MD, and then after setup removing the MD. 

I can provide any logs, and perform any experiments anyone would like on this setup.  I can also provide remote access to this set up if anyone wants to help me investigate the issue and fix it.

If the room/entertainment area has no MD then no auto-generated scenarios are created. You need to set the zone to manually managed in Web Admin. If you add an MD, then later remove it from the room/entertainment area you are essentially doing the same thing as setting it to manual.

All the best

Andy
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Users / Re: Why Do Media Directors Exist?
« Last post by totallymaxed on August 27, 2014, 10:05:02 am »
Andrew,
If I may weigh in. A few main points on MDs and why as a user I continue to use them and would be disappointed to see them relegated to a unsupported system.

Number one for me is Cost. An ip controllable HDMI matrix, HDMI endpoints, multiple set top boxes/STBs = multiplying the cost to every-room and every zone you add. You can add 'smarts' to any display with a relatively low cost MD and a remote.

I enjoy the ability to control any zone/room from and zone/room without having to have a dedicate room controller (ie. iPad) in each room. Call us 'old skool' but we also prefer to flick through with a remote rather than always use an ipad, ipod touch etc.

The philosophy of LinuxMCE/Dianemo is the central home control. Not just single point to point but in addition multipoint and the ability to move that media/user experience between rooms seamlessly. This includes the same UI, the same control process and access to all media in all rooms. As well as lighting, heating etc. controls. In your model, the only UI is on the mobile orbiter.

Telecom, Game player and surveillance cameras are not considered here yet within the thread. Whilst I agree that the most used component of the system is media, it is the integration of all these smart home systems in one point and turning any display device into a controller and viewer that got me so enthused in the system.

In having said this, not all times is there a need to have a UI and consistent user experience. I use media players and upnp in conjunction with squeezeslaves and traditional MD to get a mix throughout the home. I would just hate to see them become unsupported. 

Food for thought.
Cheers
Garath

All good points but I think you have misunderstood some of my comments here and in other threads. So let me try and clarify things;

In Dianemo & Linuxmce we have an incredibly flexible tool. We can organise and structure our installations using many different approaches/strategies. Some of those can include centralised resources like STB's with HD video distributed to each room via IP Controlled HDMI Matrices. Some might prefer no centralised traditional STB's but  instead use Myth or VDR backends running in the Core. Some might prefer STB's in each room - but that is very rare indeed. But all of these approaches and many, many more are possible.

With today's TV's you already have 'smarts' in the TV - just plug a network connection into the TV and it can be controlled from anywhere by any Orbiter. If your TV is slightly too old to have an on-board Network connection then install a Rpi running RaspBMC behind it and you can get all the same capabilities, including CEC control, on your existing TV.

Orbiters provide the ultimate in flexible control. Yes you can rely on on-screen Orbiters for all control but that means you need a TV in each room to access the UI - and what about those rooms where you may not have a TV? With portable devices we can take our Orbiters to any part of the house and control that room, and we can still control any other room while we are there. I addition we can do that without having to have MD's and TV powered up to do so.

With Dianemo or LinuxMCE we have centralised home control - but is does not require multiple MD's + TV's all over the house to achieve it. Every device type that is supported by either system can be integrated,  controlled and accessed without a single MD - they are not required to achieve that at all. But you can have an MD in any room if you want it with an on-screen Orbiter - mix & match without limitation. Orbiters running on portable devices or on PC's can be used without limitation to control any room and any device anywhere in the system. You don't need, and I have never seen, an installation where you need a portable Orbiter dedicated to each room. You take your Orbiter with you or use one that is already in the room.

There are two scenarios where that require an MD;

- Live TV streamed from Myth or VDR in the Core.
- Using the Game emulator

Everything else can be achieved without MD's and without any loss of capability, flexibility or centralised control, while at the same time reducing complexity and energy costs. But in the end of course it's your decision - that's the ultimate in flexibility.

All the best

Andy
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