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Users / Torrent installation
« on: December 28, 2011, 12:52:16 pm »
Ok, so I finished my first (successful) core installation. I then added my first MD, ripped a DVD and was able to play it on the MD. All was fine and I thought to myself: Time to install a torrent client. Should be simple, I'll do it remotely from work tomorrow.
Well, simple it wasn't (or isn't). At least for me.
Let me put forth the requirements I have:
- Can't be any torrent client, must be one of the following: rTorrent, kTorrent, Transmission or Deluge. Also, no any version, each of them have to be a specific version.
- Must be able to administer remotely (from outside my network).
- Must be able to use rss (even if it is through an external rss downloader).

So after a bit of research I decided on trying Deluge. For this specific client, I need it to be one of the following versions: 1.2.3, 1.3.2 or 1.3.3.
I saw that the version available through the repos was 0.5.something so I knew I would either have to install it manually or add newer repos.
I decided to go with the latest, 1.3.3.

I first tried installing the .deb with dpkg but it would fail on some dependencies. I saw that there were a lot of dependencies and got lazy to install them one by one.
I then tried to compile it by hand (first installing the dependencies listed on the documentation) and everything besides building libtorrent went fine (something involving boost was not working). Since this is the backend, nothing worked.
Then, after a bit of researching, I found that the jaunty repos have the 1.3.3 version. I added it to my sources.list and tried to install it to no avail, it said some dependencies could not be installed. I tried to resolve these dependencies issues and was able to resolve all of them but the last one which was Python 2.6. I had Python 2.5 installed. I searched a bit about upgrading Python on the forums and wasn't able to find anything conclusive apart from a thread with no final information. So I decided to go ahead and try it.

This is where all hell broke loose.
First thing I noticed was it wanted to uninstall a lot of packages (about 15), wanted to install a bunch of new ones and upgrade some others. I figured the time to screw up my install is now, while I don't have it running at full speed. So I decided to go ahead.
I think my main mistake was I did it through Synaptic. Remotely, via SSH with X forwarding. On a 3G connection. I don't really know what happened but at some point near the end, everything froze. My connection dropped and I think Synaptic didn't finish its process.
When I got home, I went to check it and "apt-get update" would fail saying dpkg didn't finish successfully and that I should run "dpkg --configure -a".
Running "dpkg --configure -a" also didn't finish throwing out a core dump.
LinuxMCE seemed to be running fine and I was able to stream media to the MD perfectly. I could not go into kde on the core though.
I could try to resolve this but I would never know if everything was 100% ok. And I can't afford too much time to resolve this, so I decided to reinstall my core. This is where I'm at right now. I left it reinstalling at home (I'm at work right now) and will probably finish it up tonight.

Since this is giving me so much trouble, whenever I get this right, I'll try to make a guide of sorts and post it to the wiki. Perhaps this would help others.

But I also need some help. I'm not sure if I should attempt to upgrade python once again. Has anyone ever done it successfully? Does LinuxMCE use python for anything? I'm starting to think I should attempt to install rtorrent (which seems to have less dependencies), which would be my second choice after deluge.


Ok, more than a month later, here we go. I had to put this aside for a bit as I was out of town.
When I got back, I tried again and failed miserably a few times. I decide to throw out my idea of using the old PC as the core and bought a new Dell server (PowerEdge T110 II).
On my first attempt, everything went smoothly on the core and it seems to be running just fine. Then I set up my first MD and it also went well. I went through the A/V Wizard just fine. But I left it processing and had to go sleep and now I'm at work so I'm not sure if everything went fine after the A/V Wizard.
I'll try my first video watching tonight and I'll post if everything goes okay.
Here are some things that I still have to try out:
- Directly connecting to my FTTH modem through pppoe. It seems you need to do some things in the MySQL DB. Right now I have a wireless router in front of it, which does the pppoe authentication;
- Turning the Core into a dedicated Core and not a hybrid (it doesn't even handle KDE very well, it is built as a server so the Graphics Card is crap);
- Formatting my current hard drives that are full of media. I think I should have them in ext3 (they're currently in NTFS);
I'll keep posting.

i have had kubuntu CD's go bad on me before, after several installations so its worth a shot burning a new one on the slowest speed

Yeah, I intend on trying the DVD method (which is other media) one more time before trying to find a new hard drive. We'll see how that goes.
Thanks for the help.

This last install attempt failed stating that there was a problem copying the files. It also said the root cause could be a faulty CD/DVD media, a problem in the DVD drive or the hard drive. I'm really starting to think my hard drive is faulty. I have a few others around, but they're all full. I'll try to free up another 500gig and try to install on that.
Man, this is starting to annoy me.

I'm trying to successfully install my first LinuxMCE box. It's going to be a dedicated core.

I'm facing a few issues, mainly a grey screen that never goes away and virtual consoles not working (which doesn't help in resolving the grey screen problem).

Here is a rough timeline of events:
- Tried installing 810 Final from the DVD method, had no output to my TV via DVI (my GPU doesn't have VGA ports);
- Hooked up to an old CRT monitor, kubuntu install went fine;
- Had some issues with lmce install because I didn't realize I needed an internet connection even when using the DVD method;
- Finally installed it. Rebooted, went through AVWizard and encountered the issue reported in this thread:,12083.0.html (with the only added detail that if I move the mouse even just a little bit during the grey screen with big white text, the text disappears and I get a grey screen of death);
- Figured I should try the internet method, went through all the steps just fine, same result. I then noticed that ctrl+alt+fX doesn't work, so I'm stuck in the grey screen without being able to revert to another VC and login to a shell;
- After about 5 reinstalls, the Kubuntu installation started to fail, even before having anything to do with LMCE. The install process went fine but on first boot I got some CRC errors and just wouldn't boot. I thought this was an issue with my hard drive;
- Used the seagate tools to check the drive and even though it freezed 3 times, on the 4th time it completed just fine. S.M.A.R.T. tests (both short and long) were also 100%, so I guess the hard drive is ok (it has been working for about 2 years with windows installed on it);
- Since the machine freezed during the tests, I thought I should check my RAM, and all tests were fine;
- Tried installing kubuntu 8.10 again. Machine freezed when creating the partitions;
- Tried booting into the kubuntu live cd, creating one big partition with fdisk and formating it as ext3 with mkfs.ext3 to see if would freeze. It completed just fine (thought I could see that it would be pause for about 1 minute at a time);
- Then tried installing kubuntu one more time. Install went fine but the most bizarre thing then happened. When I boot the machine, it goes into the kde login screen but keyboard and mouse doesn't work. Also tried booting into recovery mode, but the keyboard won't work there either. This has never happened before. They work prior to the OS bootup (BIOS, GRUB, etc) and work fine with the livecd;
- Tried reinstalling kubuntu 8.10 and left it working through the night. I'll see what happened tonight.

It looks like the grey screen trouble I've been having was fixed since then, so if can get kubuntu to install correctly, it should work out fine. Is it recommended to use the DVD method or the Internet method?
Also, I haven't found anyone that has the same VC problem as I do. It works fine under KDE and whenever I reboot the machine from the grey screen (using the reset button) and get to a shell login. The only time it doesn't work is on the grey screen.

Sorry for the long post, I'm running out of ideas here. Without a working keyboard, there doesn't seem like there's much I can do. If my last install didn't work, I'll try the DVD method again. And I'll try to find a ps2 keyboard to see if the problem is with the USB ports.


EDIT: Forgot about my machine specs. Here's what I remember, I'll dig up more info when I'm at home:
Gigabyte G31M Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo (don't remember which one)
Nvidia 8800GS
4GB RAM (probably Kingston sticks)
Seagate 500GB hard drive for the OS
A second encore NIC (10/100mbps)

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 15, 2011, 11:17:57 am »
Got this one from

This DOES NOT work (see the previous comments). There are a lot of similar branded items and it is hard to distinguish between them so an HCL might prove difficult.

I think it is a good idea to create an HCL if the product is easily identifiable.

Yeah, I think it would be a little hard, but it's doable. In this case for example, if proven that your device doesn't work, we could say that sound cards using the cmedia chipset are not supported.
I hope you get it working (it seems totallymaxed has some good insights on how to get it to work).

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 14, 2011, 11:50:03 am »
Tried latest build but the device is still not listed.

I have ordered the model recommended by totallymaxed.
Thanks for the help.

Hey barney, sorry to see you're having trouble with it. Did you buy the one I linked a few replies back? And which one did you buy now?

On a related topic, maybe we should start building an HCL (or is there already one? I couldn't find it on the wiki). It should help us avoid these issues in the future.


Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 09, 2011, 07:33:21 pm »
A little bit different, but if all you want is background music what you have picked should be fine. Not running LMCe at work but run these ceiling speakers
with this amp

They won't ship overseas but probably similar to what you are looking at and it all works fine so I think a lower powered amp and cheap speakers do work fine.


Good, so I guess even these cheap amps will be okay for now.
Now I only have to settle on speakers. Since they are a little bulky I might try to buy them here, to avoid the high shipping rates. Can anyone recommend some okay brands? I would like to spend a little more money on the speakers, so that I don't have to exchange them when I switch to better amps.

Thanks a lot for the help! I hope my LinuxMCE system proves to be as good as I'm imagining!

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 09, 2011, 01:26:45 pm »
You need a sound card that gets detected and added correctly as a working sound card then Squeezeslave will work with it. So whether you are installing 08.10 or 10.04 builds will affect your success rate with these types of devices. As with many other add in products manufacturers often change the internal chip or other components but the external plastics remain the even an apparently identical unit sometimes fails to work.

The sound car in the url above is not one we've tested I'm afraid so I cant provide any guidance on whether it will be detected and added

So if the card is detected in Linux it'll work normally with Squeezeslave? If so, awesome. All I need to do is find a Linux-compatible device. I already did find one that at least says it works with linux (and looks a lot like the one, though I'm sure it's different components).
And they ship to brazil for $2.50, which for me is awesome. I can buy 7 of them and still avoid the 60% import duty.

Now for amps. I've found some really cheap amps on ebay. Like, less than $20 USD. Now, of course the sound quality on these things will be less than stellar. But at least for now, I don't really care. If I can get background music going I'll be fine. I'll run the cables all to a central position so if I want to exchange the amps at a later stage, I can very easily. I just wanted to at least know if these would fry my speakers or what, cause it seems too cheap to be true. Here are two that ship to Brazil:
Does anyone have any experience with these kind of cheap amps?

Also, how does one know how loud they can be? I mean, the second one says 20W RMS x 2, but that seems a bit high to me (for the price). I'm used to measuring guitar amp loudness in RMS Watts. Though 20W RMS is not very much for guitar playing, it is ok for background listening. If a little, cheap amp like that can push 20W to 2 speakers, there must be some kind of catch I'm not getting, right?

Thanks everyone!

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 09, 2011, 12:33:44 pm »
Would this one work with squeezeslave?
If not, is there any documentation as to what chipsets are supported?


Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 09, 2011, 11:11:22 am »
Waht about these :

But beware, I'm not sure if they are the same.... And mybe active speakers....


Those would be awesome! Even if it's not the same, for that price I'd buy them and try it out. The only problem is this:
Shipping:    Not Available to Brazil.

As usual, the best deals aren't available here! =/

And about the active speakers, I'm also thinking about that. Though they aren't very cheap, the total should be a bit less expensive!

As for the cables, I think it's best to just buy them here, they shouldn't be too expensive right? Does the type of cable depend on the type of speakers I end up using?

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 08, 2011, 05:25:58 pm »
Ouch! 60% duty.
do you have any other source for these items besides US? any countries you can import from without getting stung with that duty?

It sounds like you are best running the speaker cabling from each room back to a central point before you move in. Then you can add speakers and amps for each room as money allows.


Yeah, that 60% hurts. But it's worldwide (except form some other countries in South America, where I probably won't be able to find these items anyway). It is also kind of hit or miss. You're not always taxed. It seems they are a bit lazy so some packages get in without charging the duty, but you can't count on it.

That's something I've been thinking about too. I've never installed one of those in-ceiling speakers, but I guess if the cable is there, installing the speakers themselves is not that much of a hassle, right?

So now I need to find out what kind of cables I need to run. Does anyone have any tips?

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 07, 2011, 11:30:38 pm »
gurumaia - what kind of budget are you looking at? for whole house audio as opposed to dedicated audio for TV or DVD. e.g. how much for soundcard, amp and speakers?


I'm note sure, I haven't set a limit yet because I'm not sure how much is enough for an 'okay' system, so I'm researching what's the minimum amount I need to spend to get 7 rooms of audio. From what I've seen, its sounding like this:

Sound cards:
The cheapest I've found was about 40 bucks a piece (with shipping to Brazil):

Now it gets problematic because of shipping (and then there's the damn import rates of 60% for electronics in Brazil, for orders above $50 USD):
$89.95 + $79.95 shipping = $169.90. Add the 60% and you get $271

As far as speakers go, I haven't settled on a make or model yet (I've actually no idea which are okay and which are crap. I know the good ones, but they're out of my range). I'm thinking maybe $80 for each speaker? Plus some $25 for shipping, plus 60% that's $168.

Summing up that would be:
Sound cards: 7x40=$280
Amps: 7x271=$1897
Speakers: 14x168=$2352
Total: $4529

This amount is definitely higher than my budget, so I'll keep looking for cheaper options. If I can't find any, I'll have to cut down the number of rooms with audio. I don't mind adding rooms after a little while, but I would like to at least install the speakers before I move in, to avoid the hassle of installing them with us living there.

I also wouldn't mind to upgrade the system some time in the future, but I'm not sure if that's practical.

As far as a dedicated system for TV, DVD, BluRay etc, I'll definitely add that some time in the future, but that's something that is more easily done with us living there than it is to install the whole-home system.

No worries, mate!  We're talking about the same thing, so it's hardly a hijacking.

Awesome! Can you tell me what kind of equipment are you planning to use on your whole-home solution?

Thanks a lot everyone!

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 07, 2011, 06:29:52 pm »
To add 1 or more linuxmce audio zones using squeezeslave.

Sound card



Awesome! That's exactly what I was looking for! Thank you very much!

Users / Re: Multi-room Audio - a tad confused
« on: February 07, 2011, 05:11:08 pm »
The NAD C315 UK retail price is about £160


Thanks a lot for the help! I was hoping for something a little cheaper. I'll do some math and see if I can afford that!

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