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Users / Apple TV "APPS" coming soon...
« on: October 18, 2011, 09:54:14 pm »
Hi all,

just been reading some interesting threads on several Apple forums, and it seems as though there are big things planned for Apple TV.  It looks as though there may be apps available in the near future that will run on Apple TV.  I was thinking of an orbiter app running on the thing, interfaced with the standard apple remote.  Wouldn't that be cool, not to mention the tiny footprint of the things, and no-fuss installation. (3 cables; power, hdmi, lan)

I have no idea if its feasible, or how much work would need to be done to make it happen....just passing on my thoughts.

Also I believe that Dianemo can stream feeds directly to the apple tv already with their UPnP system, but perhaps TotallyMaxed can explain this better than I.


Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 18, 2011, 08:04:36 pm »
Hi kyfalcon, can you just confirm that, you have the HDMI audio working with a Nvidia GT*** series graphics card and the 260 driver.  If thats the case I'll downgrade mine to that version, but I couldn't get the HDMI audio options to show up without the latest driver.  Perhaps you can share the secret, as its been driving me crazy for the last 10 days!!

Even Kubuntu 11.10 wouldn't give me audio over HDMI without the newest 285 driver from Nvidia.



Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 17, 2011, 10:42:02 pm »
Still can't run the AVWizard with the new Nvidia driver installed.  I've been through a few log files, and found this information which applies to the failing in the previous log I posted:-

Oct 17 00:17:42 dcerouter kernel: [   32.009167] vgaarb: device changed decodes: PCI:0000:07:00.0,olddecodes=none,decodes=none:owns=io+mem
Oct 17 00:17:42 dcerouter kernel: [   32.009264] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  260.19.29  Wed Dec  8 12:09:09 PST 2010
Oct 17 00:17:42 dcerouter kernel: [   32.011018] NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 285.05.09, but
Oct 17 00:17:42 dcerouter kernel: [   32.011020] NVRM: this kernel module has the version 260.19.29.  Please
Oct 17 00:17:42 dcerouter kernel: [   32.011020] NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver
Oct 17 00:17:42 dcerouter kernel: [   32.011021] NVRM: components have the same version.
Oct 17 00:17:57 dcerouter kernel: [   46.868311] NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 285.05.09, but
Oct 17 00:17:57 dcerouter kernel: [   46.868312] NVRM: this kernel module has the version 260.19.29.  Please
Oct 17 00:17:57 dcerouter kernel: [   46.868313] NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver
Oct 17 00:17:57 dcerouter kernel: [   46.868314] NVRM: components have the same version.
Oct 17 00:18:12 dcerouter kernel: [   62.175586] NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 285.05.09, but
Oct 17 00:18:12 dcerouter kernel: [   62.175588] NVRM: this kernel module has the version 260.19.29.  Please
Oct 17 00:18:12 dcerouter kernel: [   62.175589] NVRM: make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver
Oct 17 00:18:12 dcerouter kernel: [   62.175589] NVRM: components have the same version.

Why does this happen only when I run the AVWizard??


Installation issues / Re: Failed to start X on MD (new 10.04 install)
« on: October 17, 2011, 05:30:49 pm »

I've just created the diskless image for my MD, which is a Zotac Ion.  It ran all the usual setup steps, and is working fine with UI2 and alphablending.  I didn't even have to upgrade the Nvidia driver, so thats an improvement on previous attempts.


Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 17, 2011, 11:06:22 am »
The only thing I haven't tried is running the AVWizard again with the new NVidia drivers installed.  Because it won't run.

It seems as though the AVWizard has its own xorg.conf.pluto.avwizard file that is auto-generated, and somehow not compatible.  I've tried copying the normal xorg.conf as xorg.conf.pluto.avwizard but it gets overwritten as soon as the AVWizard starts.  I also tried copying the xorg.conf.pluto.avwizard file as the standard xorg.conf, and then the system hangs on a normal boot without the avwizard running, so it seems as though these settings are whats preventing the AVWizard from running.  Can anyone tell me where the xorg.conf.pluto.avwizard file is generated, or how to alter its settings to match a working xorg.conf file??

Here is the last bit of the Xorg.2.log that was generated after trying to run the AVWizard:-

(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEvents" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "ModeValidation" "NoDFPNativeResolutionCheck, NoEdidMaxPClkCheck, NoMaxPClkCheck, AllowInterlacedModes, AllowNon60HzDFPModes, NoEdidModes"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
(==) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0): Using HW cursor
(**) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(==) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0): Video key set to default value of 0x101fe
(==) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0): Not mapping the primary surface by default.
(**) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0): ConnectedMonitor string: "CRT"
(EE) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
(EE) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0):     system's kernel log for additional error messages and
(EE) Oct 17 00:18:12 NVIDIA(0):     consult the NVIDIA README for details.
(EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
(II) UnloadModule: "wfb"
(II) UnloadModule: "fb"
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support

Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 16, 2011, 11:27:37 pm »
Thanks locutus, I'll look into that shortly.

Update regarding the hdmi audio...
The new install is the same as the previous installs, in the fact that it doesn't work, however I have noticed some things:-
1. LMCE overwrites the Nvidia driver with its own favourite one, even though that one is older.  When I reload the latest one again it stays current.
2. I don't have sound in my kde desktop again, so LMCE has altered something there, and I can't get it working again.
3. In the system settings -> multimedia setup there are two audio output options that are now greyed out and can't be selected.  One of these is an Nvidia hdmi audio output.  The other is the IEC958 SPDIF digital output on the onboard sound card.  Now what is interesting is that this has only happened since the LMCE install, so it appears as though LMCE has grabbed those two options as its own.  I can't do anything with them, i.e select them for testing, or use them as the default output option.  Now the digital SPDIF one is the optical output, and this is working, I can hear Sarah talking to me on this one when I select the other input on my amp.  I'm wondering if LMCE has grabbed the hdmi one as well, but got the wrong one??  The one that I got working previously was one called HDA Nvidia (HDMI 0) #9.  The greyed out one is called HDA Nvidia, HDMI 0 (HDMI Audio Output).
Is there any way of getting LMCE to take the other hdmi output for its own??  I notice that in the /etc/asound.conf file there is some info about this, but I have tried changing things here which didn't make any difference before.  (Blind guessing with the plughw:0 options).
Anyone shed any more light on this??

Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 16, 2011, 09:09:53 pm »
I've been playing with all sorts of things today trying to get this working.  I even formatted the partition and installed a brand new version of Kubuntu 11.10, just to see what would happen.  It picked up the extra channels ok, but still needed the latest nvidia driver to get sound working over hdmi.  With my minor success I then gave the linuxmce installer a go, but it really didn't like that kernel!!  After about 6 hours of fiddling, trying to get it happy, I gave up and went back to 10.04.  I'm now at the stage where I have hdmi audio working in the kde desktop again.  I installed the latest alsa drivers, and the Nvidia driver.  After a bit of fiddling with the multimedia settings, it works every time.  I can play music from Amarok, and even the startup jingle plays when the machine boots into KDE.
Anyway I'm now in the process of running the script again on this fresh install to see how it goes.  I checked the output of amixer scontrols, and its no different to before, when it didn't work, so no help there.  I'd be happy to provide any information to anyone who might be able to see whats different now its working.  I'll report back once mce is up and running, with the result of this installation.
**Could anybody tell me how to archive the mce installation files locally, i.e. on a different partition of this machine, or on my nas?  I must have downloaded the complete installation at least 20 times in the last week, and it seems a waste of time to keep downloading the same set of files.  Thanks.**

Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 15, 2011, 10:24:11 pm »
Hmm, seems to have made things worse.
By removing the xorg.conf file it prevented the system from starting at all.  A new one was auto generated, but it failed to start X even without trying to run the AVWizard.  Tried running nvidia-xconfig which allowed the system to start up, but the resolution was so far off that I couldn't even get to the advanced tab to reboot it.
I had made a backup of the previous xorg.conf file, so renamed it back to the original and the system boots, but I still get the Failed to start X whenever I try and run the AVWizard.  I noticed that it has its own xorg.pluto.avwizard.conf file or something similar, I have tried backing that up, and removing it, but it has the same effect.  I did remember to alter that option in the /etc/pluto.conf file too, which didn't help.  As I have got the new driver installed, I would like to try the hdmi option again in the AVWizard, however it just won't run.  Very frustrating.
Just to confirm, the system will load, generate orbiters etc and appears normally on my screen (allbeit without hdmi audio)
I try to run the avwizard, and get the "Failed to start X" message.
I reboot again, and the system is fine again.  Its only the AVWizard that I'm having trouble with atm.
Oh, and I even tried copying the working xorg.conf file to the xorg.pluto.avwizard.conf (or whatever its called) file, so that it has a working setup to start with, but this didn't work either.
Sorry that this has gone on for so long, I know this version is a bit experimental, so I'm happy to keep playing around with it, as long as I can get some direction.

Installation issues / Re: Failed to start X on MD (new 10.04 install)
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:41:12 pm »
Great, thanks Murdock.  Got my MD up and running using the fix in this thread.

Onwards and upwards!!

Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 13, 2011, 07:39:21 pm »
Having a few problems here now, I have run the latest Nvidia installer and then rebooted.  When I select the avwizard in advanced, or even try holding shift down when the system boots, I get the "Failed to start X" message.  It seems that the latest driver is interfering with or messing up LMCE somehow.  I've tried reloading kubuntu and running the file again, so basically I'm at a fresh install, and the same thing happened again when I loaded the Nvidia drivers and ran the avwizard.  If I reboot, the system loads again, and I'm back to the orbiter, but I just can't run the AVWizard.  How can I check to ensure that the latest Nvidia drivers did in fact install, and are being used by LMCE, or whats the proper way to roll back the driver to the previous version if at all possible so I don't have to keep doing a fresh install all the time?

This is all baffling, and being fairly new to LMCE a bit above me tbh, its frustrating that I once got  it to work in Kubuntu, but never with LMCE.  Do you think its purely down to the graphics card being too new??


Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 11, 2011, 11:16:45 pm »
Hi Murdock, thanks for plugging away with me on this...
My machine is a core/hybrid that I built about 10 months ago now.  The spec is as follows:-
Asus M4A87TD Evo AMD 870 (Socket AM3) DDR3 Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 555 3.20GHz Black Edition (Socket AM3)
Asus GeForce GT 430 1024MB GDDR3 Low Profile PCI-Express Graphics Card
G.Skill RipJaw 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-10666C8 1333MHz Dual Channel Kit
Akasa PaxPower 500W Ultra Quiet Power Supply
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31500341AS)
Samsung SH-B123L/BSBP 12x BluRay ROM DVDRW DL & RAM Lightscribe SATAII Optical Drive - OEM Black
Edimax EN-9260TX-E 10/100/1000 Gigabit PCI Express Network Card (EN-9260TX-E)
ThermalTake DH202 Black VJ80051N2Z with 7" Touch Screen Case

I actually posted the spec on the forum before I bought it all, and there were no issues raised with any of the hardware.  As of this afternoon, I've basically already tried the things you suggested.  I know my amp is fine with the dolby digital and DTS, because it works fine using the optical SPDIF output, and I can play audio from LMCE with this setting in the avwizard.  I went back and tried the hdmi setting again, but said no to the other two in the avwizard, still not working.
Here is a list of my amixer scontents file as of now:-
I do have one question though, my Nvidia card is listed as card 1 in alsamixer, and the onboard as 0.  Everywhere I see the settings for the audio, I see 0 selected, like in the multimedia settings on the kde desktop, and in the asound.conf files.  Is this just something I'm reading wrong, or is it valid?

As I mentioned before, I have had it working through the kubuntu desktop, pre-mce install so I know it can work, but maybe this is irrelevant for LMCE??
(Also I can't replicate that again now, I tried so many fixes previously that I can't remember which one actually got it to work!)
Will keep digging!

Thanks again.

Installation issues / Re: HDMI audio...(again!)
« on: October 11, 2011, 04:27:30 pm »
Tried loads of things to get it working back to the point where I started this thread, but have had no luck.  Did a clean install of 10.04 again, installed mce, updated to the latest alsa drivers, rebooted and tried the avwizard again.  Still no luck with audio over hdmi.  The optical output from the onboard sound is working, and this is how I was using my 8.10 install, but I'm convinced that there must be a way to get the hdmi audio working.  I actually had it working at one point by typing the aplay command in the konsole, so physically it is possible.

I appreciate all the help you've given me so far, and from what you've said it seems that LMCE takes control of the system to a much greater extent than I thought.  It was my belief that it was sitting on top of the KDE environment, but appears to be running beside that.  This makes all the other threads on the ubuntu forums slightly less helpful, as all the fixes I've found are not applicable to LMCE.

Are there any other logs etc I can show you to dig a bit deeper with this??



Installation issues / Re: Failed to start X on MD (new 10.04 install)
« on: October 10, 2011, 10:48:47 pm »
Which Nvida drivers did you use in the end kyfalcon?

I've just installed the files without success.  I did the apt-get -f update, and apt-get -f upgrade which took ages, and grabbed quite a lot of extra stuff.  Also ran the nvidia-xconfig which has updated my xorg.conf and xorg.conf.pluto.avwizard files.  Have I missed something out along the way?

Installation issues / Re: Failed to start X on MD (new 10.04 install)
« on: October 10, 2011, 08:41:31 pm »
I have tried the apt-get update and upgrade, several reboots, but with no luck.  I did grab a copy of the Nvidia drivers from their site, but have held off installing them in case any of the devs want me to provide further details.  As this was a brand new install on the core, and the first run of the diskless image I would have thought it should have worked straight away.  I have also copied the xorg.conf file from my working 8.10 install just in case that can be of use.  I'll give the new Nvidia drivers a go tonight after the wife goes to bed and post results.

Thanks for the tips.


Installation issues / Failed to start X on MD (new 10.04 install)
« on: October 10, 2011, 04:22:57 pm »

Been giving 10.04 a real thorough go the last couple of days, and it seems to be OK, so I decided to migrate over from 8.10.
I've just run the and booted my MD.  Unfortunately after seeming to boot fine, it stops with the "Failed to start X" error.
I've checked the /var/log/xorg.0.log file and the only error is right at the end :-
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 03@00:00:0
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for v4l
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

The MD is a Zotac Mag which worked ootb with my 8.10 install.  Should I update the video drivers, or something??  Bearing in mind this is the first time its booted from the newly created image, nothing's been messed with.  I did try the usual apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade, but nothing new was installed, so I guess those commands have already been run in the install script.
The onboard graphics is an Nvidia Ion, so its nothing too new or fancy.

Any suggestions as to where to look next??


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