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In case anyone else hits this point... fairly easily solved in the end-

Installed as per instructions on
On reboot, AVWIZARD (I assume) comes up but is just a noisy screen of messy pixels with a few pixels that move as you move the mouse.

Simple solution, in my case- press "6" to set the resolution and hey-presto, a visible AVWizard!

1004 install went smoothly! Thanks very much guys.

Users / Paradox SP6000 alarm system
« on: January 20, 2012, 10:18:02 am »
Hi Everyone

At about the same time (ie now), we are about to install our first LinuxMCE (yay!!!) in our home and also our first alarm system. I'm doing the MCE and I've eventually decided I need to leave the alarm up to the contractor.

However, before I sign on the dotted line.... does anyone have any thoughts, experience or comments regarding the Paradox SP6000 panel. The (alarm) system we will be installing will basically be a panel, wireless unit (for remote arming and sensors) and a bunch of hardwired PIRs and a keypad. The system will also have a radio and probably telephone link to the security company monitoring station.

Now I believe the SP6000 can connect to an IP100 module which plugs into an IP network and then allows user interfacing to the alarm via a) their proprietory "Winload" software or b) a web browser on the network. I haven't investigated this aspect thoroughly and the security companies I've spoken to locally have no experience with it.

It will be a large and fairly expensive bummer if the alarm system and LMCE cannot talk to each other.... well, not the end of the world, but certainly it would be nice if they could. So if anyone has any comments or experience to feed me before I sign the contract, please speak up! Otherwise, I'll take one for the team and document my experiences here for the next guy in the same situation.


Installation issues / Re: Installation of 8.10 fails to detect harddrive
« on: January 20, 2012, 08:24:11 am »
Hey proesterchen, can't believe I didn't see this post.

Have had exactly the same issues with a 2TB Seagate SATA drive!

Have you made any progress?

Here's what I found:

If I set the "Sata Mode" in BIOS to "IDE" (presumably IDE compatability), Kubuntu install didn't go anywhere- after the swiping bar splash screen it went to a black screen and then dumped to initramfs prompt.

If I set the "Sata Mode" to "AHCI" Kubuntu install would get to hard disk partitioning and not see anything.

If I booted the live and ran lshw I'd get similar output to yours above. Significantly no disk size shown and fdisk would also not see the drive.

I'd still like to find a work around but no luck so far.

I tried 10.04 and it sees and partitions no problem so it does seem related to the 8.10 or possibly the older kernel.

Okeydokey, will stick with the final.iso....

Currently trying 10.04 because things weren't quite as solved as I thought-

8.10 could not see my SATA drive. This doesn't seem to be a completely isolated issue and it seems to be related to kubuntu rather than MCE. I will see how the 10.04 install goes because I haven't yet been able to find a way of getting Kubuntu8.10 to see and partition my drive!

Installation issues / Re: DVD install MCE810 dvd hangs on first step!
« on: January 18, 2012, 11:21:19 am »
Solved! At least this problem-

Turned out to be a BIOS setting- I discovered this since the same thing happened in a vanilla kubuntu install and then I searched the ubuntu forum for it.

Basically, the BIOS setting for SATA MODE was set to IDE and it should have been set to AHCI.

Interesting, caused no problems with my Fedora install but Ubuntu didn't like it and obviously couldn't mount the SATA HDD!

So I'll carry on with 8.10 and see how it goes.

Installation issues / Re: DVD install MCE810 dvd hangs on first step!
« on: January 18, 2012, 07:54:00 am »
OK, tried next latest snapshot: 25224 and pretty much the same error except it doesn't even get to the initramfs stage, just dies shortly after the sliding bar. I see the snapshot overview wiki - has only older snapshots that aren't on

Is there somewhere I can find those older, verified snapshots?

Options still to try-

1. Try to add another graphics card (first need to bend the arm of the h/w supplier to void my warranty when I open the box)
2. Try internet install - kubuntu first then, internet
3. Try one of the older verified snapshots if I can find them
4. Try 10.04  :o

Installation issues / Re: DVD install MCE810 dvd hangs on first step!
« on: January 17, 2012, 02:44:01 pm »
Thanks for the quick reply.

Will try install on another pc... in the meantime I'm tinkering with the BIOS onboard vid setup. When I changed it from PEG/IGD to IGD things got marginally further- the scrolling graphics bar disappeared to be replaced by a prompt (initramfs) I think. Don't know if that means anything to anyone but it does make me suspect the video card could be part of the problem.

Could also look at 10.04 but I'm such a newbie, wanted to go for the tried and tested.

This is just sad! I finally get to trying an install on my new hardware for my new core and I don't even get past step 1!

Basically I downloaded the image, verify MD5 checksum and burn image to DVD. Then I boot DVD on my new hardware and get to the Menu screen (Linux MCE, Install Kubuntu, Test CD etc) but whatever option I choose from there, I get the KUBUNTU plus scrolling bar for about 40 secs after which that disappears and the screen goes to sleep.

Have just, this morning, on the same machine, installed Fedora 16 with no issues at all from bootable DVD so the DVD drive seems to be working and no other major issues with hardware.

Where do I start trouble-shooting this?

Firstly, I booted the dvd on my laptop and tried the kubuntu live and it worked fine so the burn appears to be ok. Obviously some combination between this image/ software and my new hardware?

Now I'm busy downloading the latest snapshot LinuxMCE-8.10-25224-i386.iso hoping that will somehow be different. I can also try the internet install method.

Any other suggestions?

My hardware:

Motherboard: FOXCONN H61MX-V DDR3 LGA1155 M
HDD: SEAGATE 2TB SATA 3.0 3.5" 5900

Yes, I know, onboard graphics is not Nvidia... not sure what it is actually or how to find out but the place that built it had some issues putting in the cheaper Nvidia cards. Apparently motherboard threw errors. They reckoned the cheapest that would work was pretty expensive and would require a PSU upgrade. I thought I'd leave that and see if I could just get the install done... after all, this is ultimately supposed to be a headless core. Could the onboard graphics be the problem? Even at this stage of the install? Otherwise, how do I get to the bottom of it?

Any suggestions welcome.

Installation issues / Re: Media Director with video capture
« on: January 09, 2012, 10:53:09 am »
Hi Tony

Thanks again for the informative feedback. My current DSTV setup is as follows-

I have the SD dual-view PVR decoder which only does standard definition channels but has built-in PVR and dual-view functionality. The Dual-View means that (as I understand it) the decoder can output two simulataneous channels. It does this by sending output on the RF-OUT on two different frequencies. So you can connect TVs to the TV-OUT and either tune them to frequency #1 (and get whatever channel is selected there) or frequency #2 ( and get whatever channel is selected there). There are actually two coax outputs, labelled TV1 and TV2 respectively but I think they probably do much the same thing... it just means you don't have to have a splitter.

For control of the two streams, you use IR remotes and just flip them to a different (freq?) to control the different streams. On the tenant side, there is an IR "eye' connected inline on the coax cable which somehow allows the decoder to pick up IR signals encoded onto the coax coming back to the system. So you can point either remote at either the decoder itself or the "eye" and, depending which "freq" on the remote is selected, control one or the other stream. Then you can see either stream from either RF-OUT if you tune to the appropriate channel.

Either stream can watch channels or control the PVR so both can watch and record movies as well. The problem comes in, naturally, because you can delete each other's recordings.... grrr.

Now... if I am understanding correctly, you are saying that MythTV embedded in LMCE could effectively replace my entire system? In other words I'd (THEORETICALLY) be able to plug the coax input(s) from the LNBs on my sat dish directly into a tv-tuner card in my core, plug my subscriber DSTV smart-card into some kind of card-reader and then install and set-up software to magically combine the two to send channels of my selection to any media director on the system?

That *must* be taking it a bit far, surely?

Installation issues / Re: Media Director with video capture
« on: January 09, 2012, 07:42:33 am »

Thanks for the detailed and informative response. Definitely some food for thought there.

The reason I was concerned about bandwidth was that prior to setting up MCE for myself, I've been using the LTSP (k12 Linux) to serve my FC13 installation to thin-clients (old, pxe-boot diskless laptops) at my various network points. By doing this I've been able to play music at least at various nodes in the house as well as any other normal computer tasks I need to do. It's pretty cool for a start but I've noticed the video is really slow. I assume the reasons are that
a) The clients have 10/100 (maybe even just 10 Mbs) LAN cards
b) I don't have a network switch yet and I'm making do with an old 10/100 hub
c) I suspect the clients are very thin  ;)  ... in that I'm not 100% sure how LTSP does it's processing but I presume it is almost a case of the server running the application and only the graphics stuff being rendered by the client... sort of like remote X.... if so, my understanding of the Linux MCE Media Director is that it is a rather "thicker" client in that the media applications will run on the client as well as the graphic server, video and audio decoding etc with just the raw (usually compressed) data being passed from the server down the network.

Whatever the case, your response has made me confident that when I put the Gig switch in and ensure all internal devices have Gig cards... things should be good.

In terms of the two manners in which TV signal can be captured, that is most interesting. Certainly, as you say, the method of capturing the raw satellite signal and then decoding it in software is very appealing and elegant. And, as you point out, there is more potential there.... however, in my case I think I'll have to start with the alternative- capture the video output itself from the satellite decoder. The reasons are-
1) The provider is a pay provider with a "smart" card which would involve the card reader part that you refer to. Not impossible, as you say, but some extra effort and research required.
2) I'm based in South Africa and I don't think there are many here who have gone this route before me so support and assistance from the community regarding the particulars of our local Sat-tv provider are going to be rather scarce... not to mention the fact that I'm sure their programming schedule is not available electronically.
3) The local provider is not that fantastic ito options  :'( so I don't often find there is a situation where I can find more than one channel at a time I want to watch!
4) My current decoder does already have some fairly neat PVR and dual-view functionality built in which means that I'm already serving an alternative stream to my tenant (in a flatlet on the property) and I'm able to schedule and record already via the PVR. If I implented soln 2 that would basically replace this fuctionality but.... I'd have to give my tenant access to my MCE installation. I think that can happen further down the line. Perhaps when my current (old) PVR packs up and I'm forced to upgrade... I could potentially just use MCE instead of a new decoder?? Exciting future ahead.

Many thanks againf or the comments and assistance.


Installation issues / Media Director with video capture
« on: January 06, 2012, 01:35:29 pm »
Hi Everyone

Some advice please- I believe the recommendation is to put the video capture card into the core. My planned layout at present (I'm planning the system but have already done most of the network wiring) has the core sitting in the closet with the Gig switch and ADSL modem but a long way from the satellite decoder.

My plan was to have a media director in the TV room with the capture card, then the output from the satellite decoder would be fed to the MD capture card and presumably magically through to the core for redistribution / recording etc.

Firstly, is this possible or does the capture card have to be on the core?

And, if so, what are the issues going to be? The most obvious to me seem to be that if you're capturing video directly to the core you don't use bandwidth on the network line between core and switch... the capture input arrives via the PCI bus instead. So any time video is captured it's narrowing the bottleneck to the core. Are there other factors?

I'm trying to think why I don't want the core in the TV room..... apart from noise and space.... when I remember the reason, I'll post back.

Users / Re: Serving other services / tasks from the core?
« on: November 11, 2010, 09:31:45 am »
Thanks for the feedback, guys.

I think I was a bit confused about the internal MCE network. I was under the impression that all machines plugged into it had to either be the core or a media director so I was wondering where my existing workstation fitted in. As I now understand it, I can plug my existing workstation into the MCE internal network and MCE will just see it as a file server... I can continue to use it as normal, access the internet and possibly some other shared resources on the network without making it a core or Media director. I gather if I want to run it as a media director I can either dual boot it to PXE or run a virtual machine on it with the media director on that.

Installation issues / Re: Advice on new installation
« on: November 05, 2010, 01:59:15 pm »
Ah, I think that answers my question, thanks!

It frees me up to go and search for the ultimate super-cheap and super powerful core. Yay, hardware shopping.

Also, I finally managed to indoctrinate my wife with all the pro-linux sentiment and she really has the hang of Fedora so if she can carry on working merrily on the workstation in a distro and systems she's familiar with while I tinker with MCE that will help a stack.

Thanks BW.

Users / Re: Serving other services / tasks from the core?
« on: November 05, 2010, 01:55:21 pm »
Hi David

Did you ever make any progress on this one? What was your final decision? I'm grappling with similar issues- do I make my existing workstation a core or should I set up an entirely separate core so I can tinker/ develop/ do other stuff on the workstation.

I'd be interested to hear where you are with this now.


Installation issues / Re: Advice on new installation
« on: November 05, 2010, 12:54:50 pm »
That's interesting... I guess I thougt the workstation would have to be an MD because I figured it will be plugged into the MCE network and if something is plugged into that, doesn't it have to be a media director or an orbiter or some MCE component? Especially if you want to potentially access some of the resources?

Running the MD in a virtualbox on your workstation is an interesting idea. Presumably your workstation is connected to the MCE network then?

I should possibly go and have a look at some of the setups on the FAQ pages and see if people have done similar things.

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