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Installation issues / Re: [Updated] -- Diskless Setup Failed -- again...
« on: January 29, 2011, 08:37:22 pm »
I finally got my MD to boot past the Diskless Setup.

1st: I have to thank Tkmedia for helping in the chat channel #linuxmce.  Ulimately, based on tk's recommendation, I re-ran, rebuilt the image for the MD through the webadmin interface, and rebooted the MD.  This time it booted and then "AVWizard Failed to Start X".  That is a different issue for a different day as this is just a test MD to make sure the net boot works.

The only difference between this time and the first time I rand Diskless_Create is that I added the fastspeedtest repos to the sources.list.  I took them from the file that Beeker gave me and I have included it in the reply.  I only added the fastspeedtest repos and not the others listed in the sources.list file.  Then I ran apt-get update and upgrade and it found and installed new files.  I don't know if that made the difference or not.  All I know is that it worked this time

Thanks to everyone for their help to get me this far.  See you in the IRC.


Users / Re: HDD Backup
« on: January 29, 2011, 02:28:27 pm »
On the Advanced|Confiuration menu you have a Backups page. I've done it a few times and it produces a .tar.gz file which you can place on a stick or where you like it.
I'm not sure exactly what's backed up, but I supposed it's all LMCE configuration data and no MP3s or other stuff you add yourself.

Another option, including full ghosting of you harddisk can be found in the live-CD Trinity Resque Disk. I has saved me a couple of times for both Windows and Linux systems. To be found at


Sweet...thanks for the info.
I will have to check that out.  I think that I will look at the LMCE backup and see where that lands me.


Users / Re: HDD Backup
« on: January 29, 2011, 02:22:35 am »
i use the tar ball way and it works fine, there are programs out there that do backups, i can't remember the names, either way you have to use a "rescue, or live cd" to restore.

make sure if you use the tar way to exclude the dir's you don't want to backup (like mounts, media, etc..)

Here is the commands i use:

to backup with tar

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tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/media --exclude=/sys --exclude=/home/coredump /
to restore with tar

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tar xvpfz backup.tgz -C /


I have read online about doing exactly what you state.  Is it really as simple as just unzipping the files and copying them back to the HDD?


Installation issues / Re: Diskless Setup Failed -- again...
« on: January 29, 2011, 02:17:59 am »
Keep an eye on the svn, especially if there is a ticket in for your particular issue.  Maybe you can just download what you need and place it in your system in the appropriate place.

Good Luck...and thanks for the info.


Installation issues / Re: Diskless Setup Failed -- again...
« on: January 28, 2011, 11:57:10 pm »

I will have to check out these from your list as they are not in my sources.list.

deb intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb intrepid-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb intrepid main restricted universe multiverse
deb intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb intrepid-security main restricted universe multiverse

As far as the line "svn co" goes, I just did that so I could have the latest installer scripts withough having to download them individually.  I got it from the LMCE 1004 instructions on the wiki.  I don't know if it's necesarry but it seemed to help me get a good install. I was thinking about doing an svn to grab all the scripts but I don't think that I need to right now.

I'm going to have to check out the Ultra Iso thing that you talked about.  I don't have a limited plan with my ISP but it is slow.  My web is served through a mobile broadband stick through a laptop onto my network.  I am grandfathered into an unlimited plan since I haven't signed a new contract in about two years.

Users / HDD Backup
« on: January 28, 2011, 11:44:02 pm »
Since I am fairly new to Linux, I have some questions about backing up my LMCE system.

I have read on the web about using "tar" to grab what I need to a file and save it on a drive.  This seems simple and easy enough to recover using the LMCE install disk as a live Kubuntu OS.

Anyone have any better ideas.  I would like it to be simple and easy to recover from if I crash my LMCE system.  I also want to use it for LMCE 1004.  I would install Kubuntu 10.04, run all the updates/upgrades, backup my drive and start playing with LMCE.



Installation issues / [Updated] -- Diskless Setup Failed -- again...
« on: January 28, 2011, 02:54:16 pm »
   -- successful Kubuntu (LMCE) DVD install of snapshot 23661 (23670 was only 3.0 G)
   -- apt-get update/dist-upgrade w/o editing sources.list
   -- apt-get install subversion
   -- svn co
   -- double clicked LinuxMCE on Desktop
   -- rebooted upon completion
   -- installed HVR-1600 and setup MythTV successfully (watched/recorded TV)
   -- apt-get install libdvdcss2
   -- ran apt-get update/upgrade with no packages needed or installed
   -- rebooted
   -- ran -- FAILED (MythTV issue -- CTRL-C to exit
   -- manually edited sources.list to add deb replacements_debian main
   -- ran apt-get update (new packages installed) apt-get upgrade (no packaged installed)
   -- ran -- SUCCESS!!!  :-)
   -- rebooted

At this point, I have connected two different PCs neither one will install successfully.  One PC is an old laptop that worked as a MD when I had snapshot 23614 installed (somehow I broke this system trying to set up MythTV and couldn't fix it and I couldn't get it to install successfully again so I downloaded a new snapshot and started all over). The other PC is one that I built for Mythbuntu that is attached to my home theater systems and works like a charm. Neither will do a successful MD boot.  They both get to the point of running but then fail within seconds with Diskless Setup Failed.  I have searched the wiki and forum and I have had no success in fixing this.  I can find the MD in webadmin.

I have tried the following:
   -- deleting them and letting them go from scratch
   -- filling in the blanks and rebuilding image
   -- checked to make sure they are listed as i386
   -- checked /usr/pluto/bin/files.d/fstab-diskless for the double quote at the end of mkdir*****/Asterisk line
   -- checked for i386.tar.bz2 and amd64.tar.bz2in /usr/pluto/install
   -- removed wireless usb-nic from my Mythbuntu rig prior to net-booting it.
   -- checked to make sure that sudo nano /usr/pluto/diskless/MD#/etc/hosts included dcerouter
   -- DHCP is turned on in webadmin, the router is set to and all the IP ranges are all filled in.

These are the things that I found in the wiki and forum to try.  Most of them are older issues that have since been dealt with in later snapshots.  I'm at a total loss as to where to go from here.  I really don't want to do a complete reinstall of my system since this is the furthest I have ever gotten.

Any help is appreciated.  If I need to post some specs or log files, tell me what you need and I will post.



Installation issues / Re: 0810 Snapshot 23645 Install Experience
« on: January 25, 2011, 04:28:27 pm »
Great job LMCE Dev Team.

Core - Installed as described in the wiki.  Ran apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, without changing sources list.  (all ran good, with a couple of 404 error, but nothing serious).

Ran the LMCE ICON - took about 3 hours to finish, but eventually did.  Rebooted the system, got AVwizard and setup finished.  Had to configure DHCP IP Range was the only change I made.

Ran the diskless MD script, libdvdcss on Core to enable cd/dvd play - no problems

MD1 configured nicely - ran libdvdcss, upgraded HULU in KDE.  (dvi=720p, sound = spdif)  this system is working like a charm.  Had to ensure that I selected the correct resolution, where in 0710 it was already set to 60hz, in 0810 if you don't have a local monitor attached, you'll need to arrow over and down arrow once to ensure the setting.

MD2 configured nicely - where this system is a s-vidoe configuration, it's always been difficult to setup, was a breeze.

All-in-All a great piece of work and I wanted to share my appreciation to those that have worked their butts off to get it to this point.

This didn't work for me.  I installed the Core just like this post stated and everything went fine.  I tried /usr/pluto/bin/ and it runs for a while but then errors out with missing Pluto dependencies. I have to hit CTRL-C to break the look.  It also suggests to run apt-get -f install to fix the broken dependencies but when I do, it finds nothing.  I added the repositories found in the Wiki for the internet installation of 0810 to /etc/apt/sources.list and /mnt/device/32/etc/apt/sources.list which is one I found doing a file search in the core.  Then I ran apt-get update from the core and it found new stuff. I tried to run and it resulted in the same issue.



Users / Re: HDD usage and Snapshot questions...
« on: January 21, 2011, 02:06:36 pm »
If you don't have any media on it, and you don't intend on using it for storage, then just ignore it. MDs don't NEED to have a hard disk in them, so I would conclude that it is not necessary, apart from for storage (and as you say, 20 GB isn't going to get you very far).

The snapshots are like a bang-up-to-date DVD installation disk i.e. everything you need. Just follow the DVD installation instructions.


Thanks Matt,

So what I hear you saying is, the core's only use for this drive would be for additional storage space. Otherwise, the core has no other use for the drives on the Media Directors.



Users / Moneual Lab MonCaso 932P HTPC Case
« on: January 21, 2011, 01:37:51 pm »
Is anyone using this case or similar? <>
The touch screen uses a D-sub cable that exits through the back of the case to connect to the video card and an internal USB cable that connects to the motherboard.  I know that to get the touch panel working there has to be Linux drivers it.  Moneual Lab's website seems to be down so I can't find out if linux drivers exist or even who makes the screen. (3M maybe?)
The other issue would be, can LMCE support two monitors on the same machine with two different UIs?  In other words, (if the touch screen works) can you have the UI1 on the touch screen and use it simlar to an orbitor, and have the UI2B on your main out (hdmi, component, etc)?  I don't know how usefull this would be but it is a cool case.



Users / HDD usage and Snapshot questions...
« on: January 21, 2011, 01:16:22 pm »
1> I have a media director with a 20GB HDD installed.  I use this HDD to be able to boot the machine into Ubuntu for HW testing so if I am having an issue with the box in MD mode (net booted), I can easily see if it's hardware related or software/driver related. When I boot it into MD mode, the core detects the drive and asks if I want the it to use the drive. I'm not sure what the core will do with it.  My assumption is that it will mount it and use it for storage (not very usefull since this is only a 20GB HDD).  Is my assumption accurate or does it use it for some other purpose?

2> Are the latest snapshot revisions that are available for download here <> just updates to the install scripts or do they also include software or hardware updates?



On the core, do a
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chroot /usr/pluto/diskless/<id-of-md>
apt-get -f install

and post the results.

That seemed to do the trick. After this, I had it re-run the AV Wizard.  Once I did that, it rechecked for the nVidia driver and installed it correctly this time.  I guess it was the iso-codes that was the broken dependency.

Thanks posde.


Thanks posde.  I did what you said and here is the output.

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harper@dcerouter:~$ sudo su
dcerouter_1:/home/harper# chroot /usr/pluto/diskless/96
root@dcerouter:/# apt-get -f install                   
Reading package lists... Done                         
Building dependency tree                               
Reading state information... Done                     
Correcting dependencies... Done                       
The following extra packages will be installed:       
Suggested packages:                                   
The following NEW packages will be installed:         
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.                             
Need to get 1501kB of archives.                               
After this operation, 7836kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y                                   
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!           
Authentication warning overridden.                                 
Get:1 intrepid/main iso-codes 3.2-1 [1501kB]
Fetched 1501kB in 49s (30.3kB/s)                                                                                                                           
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.                                                                                                                     
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
        LANGUAGE = "",
        LC_ALL = (unset),
        LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
(Reading database ... 80391 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking iso-codes (from .../iso-codes_3.2-1_all.deb) ...
Can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?)
Setting up iso-codes (3.2-1) ...
Setting up python-software-properties (0.68.1) ...

Setting up software-properties-gtk (0.68.1) ...


Does this help?



Update--again.  :-)
I found revision 23635 for the on the svn (thanks merkur2k). I grabbed it and put it in the appropriate place.  It did two things, it allowed the MD to complete installation even though it couldn't install the nvidia drivers. It also created the file nvidia-install.log. Here is the output of that log.

== Begin NVidia driver installation (Thu Jan 20 06:53:15 EST 2011) ==
Card Detected: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0641] (rev a1)
PCI_ID Detected: 0641
LMCE prefers driver nvidia-glx-195
installing NEW driver nvidia-glx-195!
== End NVidia driver installation (Thu Jan 20 06:53:16 EST 2011) ==
== Begin NVidia driver installation (Thu Jan 20 06:54:58 EST 2011) ==
Card Detected: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0641] (rev a1)
PCI_ID Detected: 0641
LMCE prefers driver nvidia-glx-195
installing NEW driver nvidia-glx-195!
== End NVidia driver installation (Thu Jan 20 06:55:01 EST 2011) ==
== Begin NVidia driver installation (Thu Jan 20 07:05:06 EST 2011) ==
Card Detected: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:0641] (rev a1)
PCI_ID Detected: 0641
LMCE prefers driver nvidia-glx-195
installing NEW driver nvidia-glx-195!
Unable to install driver:
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
== End NVidia driver installation (Thu Jan 20 07:06:09 EST 2011) ==

apt-get -f install doesn't seem to do anything.  I don't know how to do it on the MD because I can't get to the KDE desktop from there.  I can only get to the desktop on the core and it doesn't do anything there.



Users / Re: Telephony question
« on: January 20, 2011, 12:02:03 pm »
There are specific telephony cards that work, but are not PnP atm. Using regular modems is something that does not work reliable, IF at all. An external SIP ATA (that's what the SPA is), is the best solution to get regular phone lines into the system. They are fairly inexpensive, and just work.

I've looked around and you are correct, they are not that expensive. One cool thing is that it looks like it may allow me to use VOIP phones in the house to be able to use the intercom features and other telephony features in LMCE. It seems that these phones would be able to touch the outside analogue phone line through the SIP ATA. This is something to think about. Especially since I could run one CAT5 line out to the barn for all my communication needs. Right now, I am going to concentrate on getting my system online. I am still having trouble with getting my MD to boot correctly and also getting my HVR-2250 to work as well. I am going to buy a HDHomeRun-Dual soon but I already had the HVR-2250 so that will have to do for now. Besides, these two issues are forcing me to learn the LMCE system better than if it was flawless from day one. :-)

Thanks for all the advice and I especially appreciate the developers for working on this. I'm looking forward to 10.04.


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